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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Change of venue!

She has no idea what that is.  She's just going to file her appeal there.  And by "appeal," I mean "sternly worded Truth Social post in ALL CAPS."

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Posted
8 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Maybe Trump should change tack, start using a more coherent argument, like maybe that Sovereign Citizen one.

Oh Boy!

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Posted
31 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Maybe Trump should change tack, start using a more coherent argument, like maybe that Sovereign Citizen one.

He has something far more devastating in reserve.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

I have always been Debbie downer on this, and I never quite got the angst of everyone to get this thing wrapped up before the election. I’m mean I understand why, but it’s never gonna be wrapped up before the election because they will always be the right of appeal after a trial and conviction - and there is no way he is not going to appeal.   And you will probably have to wait 10 months at the quickest to get the court of appeal to rule on that conviction. .   

Simply put, there was never gonna be a definitive answer to any criminal conviction prior to the election - no matter what judge works at warp speed.

I do agree a conviction could move the needle pre-election for some people, and I’m not saying that’s not so, I’m just reminding everybody that there was never going to be Trump in jail due to an affirmed conviction prior to the election

Maybe I'm wrong but IF Trump can be saddled with a conviction of any sort before Election Day -- and yes, I know he will appeal to the last -- that might be something that a small fraction of voters can't get past. If we're looking at a razor-thin margin in the battleground states like PA, OH, MI, NV, AZ, etc it could mean the difference in November. Right?

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1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Maybe I'm wrong but IF Trump can be saddled with a conviction of any sort before Election Day -- and yes, I know he will appeal to the last -- that might be something that a small fraction of voters can't get past. If we're looking at a razor-thin margin in the battleground states like PA, OH, MI, NV, AZ, etc it could mean the difference in November. Right?

I would really like to think that, and I can't believe I'm saying this, that if Trump were a convicted felon that might make some people consider not voting for him. But who knows. If you believe the polling, it's something that he can't overcome. 

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The seriousness of his alleged crimes is easily enough to get anybody else either incarcerated or confined to their home pending results. He was showing top secret documents to just about anybody. He is accused of leading an insurrection. He is accused of tampering with voter processes. 

He's not in jail because the media, for one, clutches their pearls at the thought of an ex-president being placed (gasp!) in jail. Most people in government follow suit. 

If he's convicted before the election, he should be in jail for appeals. He will have been proven to be a danger to the republic. He is not remotely remorseful or repentent.  To this day he remains the toxic presence personifying the most deplorable things about the USA.

His crimes cry out for execution. The obvious cries out for incarceration already. Tut-tutting from Wold Blitzer and his fellow clowns will make a public case about what a horrible precedent it would set. 

Only we on the internet occasionally mention that his conviction and incarceration would be great evidence that no person is above the law. I'm not concluding anything yet, but do rich, powerful white men lead the effort to keep Trump unpunished? Do they want to keep the foul notion and belief that the rich never suffer so no one really expects them to go to jail?

My nascent thoughts don't suggest a conscious conspiracy: more like an appearance of unified action because of common inclinations.

My posts are really getting long. 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

The seriousness of his alleged crimes is easily enough to get anybody else either incarcerated or confined to their home pending results. He was showing top secret documents to just about anybody. He is accused of leading an insurrection. He is accused of tampering with voter processes. 

He's not in jail because the media, for one, clutches their pearls at the thought of an ex-president being placed (gasp!) in jail. Most people in government follow suit. 

If he's convicted before the election, he should be in jail for appeals. He will have been proven to be a danger to the republic. He is not remotely remorseful or repentent.  To this day he remains the toxic presence personifying the most deplorable things about the USA.

His crimes cry out for execution. The obvious cries out for incarceration already. Tut-tutting from Wold Blitzer and his fellow clowns will make a public case about what a horrible precedent it would set. 

Only we on the internet occasionally mention that his conviction and incarceration would be great evidence that no person is above the law. I'm not concluding anything yet, but do rich, powerful white men lead the effort to keep Trump unpunished? Do they want to keep the foul notion and belief that the rich never suffer so no one really expects them to go to jail?

My nascent thoughts don't suggest a conscious conspiracy: more like an appearance of unified action because of common inclinations.

My posts are really getting long. 

Bitch please.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Red Five said:

I would really like to think that, and I can't believe I'm saying this, that if Trump were a convicted felon that might make some people consider not voting for him. But who knows. If you believe the polling, it's something that he can't overcome. 

“ Yeah, I know the courts have found him liable for rape and business fraud and stealing from children’s cancer charities…and that fraudulent Trump university…and the supporting white supremacists thing.  And the leading of an insurrection at his request, while he stood there for hours doing nothing…… and the stealing highly classified government documents about who we are going to invade - and leaving them in a bathroom and getting folks to commit perjury…..but that is a nothing burger from the woke lame stream media.  

But - gorshahmighty - if the deep state and the crooked deranged prosecutors get him convicted to create illegal election interference to keep him from reclaiming the White House that was stolen from him, that will change my mind….”

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Maybe I'm wrong but IF Trump can be saddled with a conviction of any sort before Election Day -- and yes, I know he will appeal to the last -- that might be something that a small fraction of voters can't get past. If we're looking at a razor-thin margin in the battleground states like PA, OH, MI, NV, AZ, etc it could mean the difference in November. Right?

Like, 11,780 votes?  But you are entirely correct. This will be a barn burner regardless.

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Posted
2 hours ago, The Dog said:

and IIRC that number keeps going up until he puts up the money or the bond during appeal. 

Post judgment interest continues to accrue, supersedeas bond or not. That is why they are usually 120% or so of the face amount of the judgment (which usually includes prejudgment interest, as it seems to here). 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

I have always been Debbie downer on this, and I never quite got the angst of everyone to get this thing wrapped up before the election. I’m mean I understand why, but it’s never gonna be wrapped up before the election because they will always be the right of appeal after a trial and conviction - and there is no way he is not going to appeal.   And you will probably have to wait 10 months at the quickest to get the court of appeal to rule on that conviction. .   

Simply put, there was never gonna be a definitive answer to any criminal conviction prior to the election - no matter what judge works at warp speed.

I do agree a conviction could move the needle pre-election for some people, and I’m not saying that’s not so, I’m just reminding everybody that there was never going to be Trump in jail due to an affirmed conviction prior to the election

Especially when the Attorney General sits on his ass doing fuck all for two years. 

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Don't know. Besides the obvious thought that she is, there are alternate explanations for her "behavior," to wit being dumb/inexperienced. 

One sign she's not in the bag is that she didn't push this pretrial motion deadline, which he moved her to do and it seems they were less than precisely prepared to meet . Maybe she thought that too obvious. 

Wanted to add that, if the 11th Circuit or Chief Judge were to reassign it, I think it would be based more on judicial experience and the optics of it rather than a belief that she is actually biased. 

But I don't think they would state their reasons.  Patent cases get reassigned with some frequency, I think often at the request of the transferor judge that hates them or with their enthusiastic consent. And the real reason for it is so the case doesn't become a stale blot on the case management stats of the district. 

No set of judges really wants to open the bias can of worms because it could be used and abused everywhere because it's so subjective. 

So, her peers may or may not think she's biased, but I imagine their justification at least to themselves, would be inexperience and the Roberts style concern for appearances. 

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Maybe I'm wrong but IF Trump can be saddled with a conviction of any sort before Election Day -- and yes, I know he will appeal to the last -- that might be something that a small fraction of voters can't get past. If we're looking at a razor-thin margin in the battleground states like PA, OH, MI, NV, AZ, etc it could mean the difference in November. Right?

I hope you're right, but I can't help thinking: he was found by a jury to be liable based on facts that demonstrated in that case that he raped someone. 

 

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4 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

The seriousness of his alleged crimes is easily enough to get anybody else either incarcerated or confined to their home pending results. He was showing top secret documents to just about anybody. He is accused of leading an insurrection. He is accused of tampering with voter processes. 

He's not in jail because the media, for one, clutches their pearls at the thought of an ex-president being placed (gasp!) in jail. Most people in government follow suit. 

If he's convicted before the election, he should be in jail for appeals. He will have been proven to be a danger to the republic. He is not remotely remorseful or repentent.  To this day he remains the toxic presence personifying the most deplorable things about the USA.

His crimes cry out for execution. The obvious cries out for incarceration already. Tut-tutting from Wold Blitzer and his fellow clowns will make a public case about what a horrible precedent it would set. 

Only we on the internet occasionally mention that his conviction and incarceration would be great evidence that no person is above the law. I'm not concluding anything yet, but do rich, powerful white men lead the effort to keep Trump unpunished? Do they want to keep the foul notion and belief that the rich never suffer so no one really expects them to go to jail?

My nascent thoughts don't suggest a conscious conspiracy: more like an appearance of unified action because of common inclinations.

My posts are really getting long. 

Hear motherfucking hear. 

Posted
15 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Bitch please.

 

14 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

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14 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

"Getting"?

People say to me that I have the best words. A philologist came up to me, maybe 5 hoods on his gown, smart guy. I don't know what philologists do, but I'm pretty sure he's the best one. Anyway, this genius with tears soaking his mortarboard, says to me, "Sir, your words are so much better than my words! You're the genius. You must share them! All of them! Remain prolix!" I"m pretty sure prolix is a good thing.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Radical Larry said:

 

I really like this idea of compounding interest accumulation while appral is pending.  Gives a negative incentive for bullshit delays and appeals.  I wish they could find a way to apply this concept to his criminal cases.

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18 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

I really like this idea of compounding interest accumulation while appral is pending.  Gives a negative incentive for bullshit delays and appeals.  I wish they could find a way to apply this concept to his criminal cases.

When found guilty, add the number of days he roamed free to his sentence. 

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Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

I swear to God when this motherfucker dies I'm inviting every one of you to the Black Sheep Lodge on Lamar for a night of drinking on me. 


sounds like something the austin serial killer would do

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Since you did not state in what capacity, I tend to say, “yes”!

I'm guessing she can move her arm like the claymation in a Tool video.  

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

If employment implies compensation, was he ever?

Didn't she get paid in advance?  I think he's paid her firm nearly $3.5M.  That alone should be a red flag for being in charge of a country, but you know, here we are.

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