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They’re going to “aw, shucks” FSU into the playoff because they won the weakest P5 conference and then we all have to watch FSU get absolutely dumpstered by Washington or Michigan when they could have had a Texas/Michigan or Bama/Michigan slugfest or a Texas/Washington rematch. 

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6 minutes ago, Eastwood said:

They’re going to “aw, shucks” FSU into the playoff because they won the weakest P5 conference and then we all have to watch FSU get absolutely dumpstered by Washington or Michigan when they could have had a Texas/Michigan or Bama/Michigan slugfest or a Texas/Washington rematch. 

H2H this year suggests they aren't the weakest conference.

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5 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


If Louisville had any kind of pride and wins + Georgia win then Texas is 100% in and we’re not up
Dissecting stewart mandel tweets at 130AM

If Louisville had won, we would be in no matter what. The SEC game wouldn't have mattered to us. Rooting for Georgia was stupid.

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All this Mandel bashing is appreciated, but his initial point that the committee can sidestep the H2H argument by ranking Bama 2-3 spots ahead of us is definitely plausible. Our main hope is they decide a QB-less FSU would be overwhelmed in a semifinal.

FSU’s serviceable qb has a concussion, not death.
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1 minute ago, LonghornSean said:

Woke up much less confident than I was when I went to sleep. The thing is we just don’t know how the committee is gonna handle it.

But the games on the field have to matter, otherwise what are we doing.

You feel that way because we have seen this fuck job before.  Texas checked off all the required to do things but the selection committee will find some lame reasoning for not picking them that they will repeat over and over while being unable to logically defend.  They already showed this when they ranked Oregon over Texas based on “eye test” despite all metrics favoring Texas.  Hope I’m wrong but they already showed their propensity to see only what they want.

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ESPN projecting Texas is in. Hopefully they’re right.



GRAPEVINE, Texas -- No matter which way you slice it, this is going to be a controversial decision for the College Football Playoff selection committee.

When the final ranking is revealed just after noon ET on Sunday, it will have been the most difficult decision the committee has made in the decade of the four-team playoff. Multiple teams are going to be angry. SEC runner-up Georgia could become the first No. 1 seed to fall out of the top four on Selection Day. Florida State could be the first undefeated Power 5 champ to be excluded from the playoff.

Will the committee choose the four best ... or most deserving? "It is best," CFP executive director Bill Hancock said Tuesday. "Most deserving is not anything in the committee's lexicon. They are to rank the best teams in order, and that's what they do. Just keep that word in mind: best teams."

Before the final ranking is revealed, here's one final prediction on how it could shake out, immediately following Saturday's games while the committee is actually debating its top four:


1. Michigan Wolverines (13-0)


Trevor Ruszkowski/USA TODAY Sports
Previous CFP rank: No. 2
Last playoff appearance: 2022
Total playoff appearances: 2

Why they could finish here: The undefeated Wolverines punctuated their résumé with a Big Ten title against No. 16 Iowa, and they did it on a night when the committee's No. 1 team, Georgia, lost to Alabama in the SEC championship game. Michigan's best wins are against No. 6 Ohio State, No. 10 Penn State and now Iowa. The Wolverines have had an edge in the committee meeting room over the other undefeated teams, and nothing that happened during championship weekend is likely to change that. One advantage to having the No. 1 overall seed: The selection committee will not put the top seed at a geographic disadvantage in a CFP semifinal.


2. Washington Huskies (13-0)

Previous CFP rank: No. 3
Last playoff appearance: 2016
Total playoff appearances: 1

Why they could finish here: The undefeated Huskies have now beaten a top-10 Oregon team twice, adding to a résumé that also includes a win against No. 20 Oregon State and a Pac-12 title. Washington dispatched the committee's top one-loss team entering this weekend, and it could make a case for the No. 1 spot. At the very least, Washington should get a bump up in part because of Georgia's loss to Bama.


3. Texas Longhorns (12-1)


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Previous CFP rank: No. 7
Last playoff appearance: N/A
Total playoff appearances: 0

Why they could finish here: The Longhorns can now claim a double-digit win against the SEC champs -- something not even back-to-back national champion Georgia can claim. The selection committee has valued that Week 2 win in Tuscaloosa all season, and it has given the Longhorns an edge against the Crimson Tide in each of the past five CFP rankings. It would be difficult for the committee to justify flipping it a day after Texas routed Oklahoma State to win the Big 12 title. The only possible reasons Alabama could finish ahead of Texas would be that the Tide faced a better opponent in their conference title game, dethroning the committee's No. 1 team in Georgia, and simply if the committee believes Alabama is better now than it was in September.


4. Alabama Crimson Tide (12-1)

Previous CFP rank: No. 8
Last playoff appearance: 2021
Total playoff appearances: 7

Why they could finish here: The Crimson Tide now own the best win of the season after defeating No. 1 Georgia to take the SEC title. It's likely the committee keeps them behind Texas, though, because of the Week 2 loss to the Longhorns. Alabama should keep alive the SEC's streak of having a team in all 10 playoffs.


5. Georgia Bulldogs (12-1)


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Previous CFP rank: 1
Last playoff appearance: 2022
Total playoff appearances: 3

Why they could finish here: As good as Georgia is, the Bulldogs came up short when it mattered the most, and it happened during a season in which the field of CFP contenders is the deepest it has ever been. The burden of proof is always higher in the selection committee meeting room for teams that don't win their conference, but that's especially the case this season when there were multiple undefeated Power 5 champions for the first time. For Georgia to finish in the top four, the committee would have to deem it "unequivocally" one of the four best teams in the country. While that's certainly possible -- and Georgia played the best opponent of any of the Power 5 contenders -- any doubt in the room will keep the Bulldogs on the bubble. They would lose two tiebreakers -- the head-to-head result against Alabama and the conference title.


6. Florida State Seminoles (13-0)

Previous CFP rank: No. 4
Last playoff appearance: 2014
Total playoff appearances: 1

Why they could finish here: Florida State found a way to win again, this time with its third-string quarterback and an elite defense. The Seminoles have three wins against CFP top-25 teams, including Clemson, LSU and now Louisville, but they simply didn't look like a team capable of winning a national title. In 2014, when Ohio State was down to its third-string quarterback, the Buckeyes cracked the top four for the first time all season in large part because they embarrassed Wisconsin with a 59-0 drubbing in the Big Ten championship game. Against Louisville on Saturday, Florida State couldn't get a first down until late in the first half. The defense played at a championship-caliber level, but there were mistakes on offense that extended beyond the play of first-time starting quarterback Brock Glenn, who was replacing Tate Rodemaker, who was replacing Jordan Travis. If FSU is snubbed, it would be the first time an undefeated Power 5 team has missed the playoff. The Noles should still finish ahead of No. 7 Ohio State, No. 8 Oregon, No. 9 Missouri and No. 10 Penn State.

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they will look at the overall body of work. 

the UH and KSU close games will hurt us.

the OU loss will haunt us forever, and they will rub it in forever. 2023 was the best shot. 

and if Bama gets in over us, the "SEC SEC" chants when Yormark was speaking, will look sillyshitastic dumbfuckenstein. 

 

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1 minute ago, Nivek said:


FSU’s serviceable qb has a concussion, not death.

Serviceable may be an exaggeration. He didn't look like one of the two worst things to happen to football unlike the QBs that played in the Louisville-FSU game. So that's nice I guess. 

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6 minutes ago, jofus said:

ESPN projecting Texas is in. Hopefully they’re right.



GRAPEVINE, Texas -- No matter which way you slice it, this is going to be a controversial decision for the College Football Playoff selection committee.

When the final ranking is revealed just after noon ET on Sunday, it will have been the most difficult decision the committee has made in the decade of the four-team playoff. Multiple teams are going to be angry. SEC runner-up Georgia could become the first No. 1 seed to fall out of the top four on Selection Day. Florida State could be the first undefeated Power 5 champ to be excluded from the playoff.

Will the committee choose the four best ... or most deserving? "It is best," CFP executive director Bill Hancock said Tuesday. "Most deserving is not anything in the committee's lexicon. They are to rank the best teams in order, and that's what they do. Just keep that word in mind: best teams."

Before the final ranking is revealed, here's one final prediction on how it could shake out, immediately following Saturday's games while the committee is actually debating its top four:


1. Michigan Wolverines (13-0)


Trevor Ruszkowski/USA TODAY Sports
Previous CFP rank: No. 2
Last playoff appearance: 2022
Total playoff appearances: 2

Why they could finish here: The undefeated Wolverines punctuated their résumé with a Big Ten title against No. 16 Iowa, and they did it on a night when the committee's No. 1 team, Georgia, lost to Alabama in the SEC championship game. Michigan's best wins are against No. 6 Ohio State, No. 10 Penn State and now Iowa. The Wolverines have had an edge in the committee meeting room over the other undefeated teams, and nothing that happened during championship weekend is likely to change that. One advantage to having the No. 1 overall seed: The selection committee will not put the top seed at a geographic disadvantage in a CFP semifinal.


2. Washington Huskies (13-0)

Previous CFP rank: No. 3
Last playoff appearance: 2016
Total playoff appearances: 1

Why they could finish here: The undefeated Huskies have now beaten a top-10 Oregon team twice, adding to a résumé that also includes a win against No. 20 Oregon State and a Pac-12 title. Washington dispatched the committee's top one-loss team entering this weekend, and it could make a case for the No. 1 spot. At the very least, Washington should get a bump up in part because of Georgia's loss to Bama.


3. Texas Longhorns (12-1)


Kevin Jairaj/USA TODAY Sports
Previous CFP rank: No. 7
Last playoff appearance: N/A
Total playoff appearances: 0

Why they could finish here: The Longhorns can now claim a double-digit win against the SEC champs -- something not even back-to-back national champion Georgia can claim. The selection committee has valued that Week 2 win in Tuscaloosa all season, and it has given the Longhorns an edge against the Crimson Tide in each of the past five CFP rankings. It would be difficult for the committee to justify flipping it a day after Texas routed Oklahoma State to win the Big 12 title. The only possible reasons Alabama could finish ahead of Texas would be that the Tide faced a better opponent in their conference title game, dethroning the committee's No. 1 team in Georgia, and simply if the committee believes Alabama is better now than it was in September.


4. Alabama Crimson Tide (12-1)

Previous CFP rank: No. 8
Last playoff appearance: 2021
Total playoff appearances: 7

Why they could finish here: The Crimson Tide now own the best win of the season after defeating No. 1 Georgia to take the SEC title. It's likely the committee keeps them behind Texas, though, because of the Week 2 loss to the Longhorns. Alabama should keep alive the SEC's streak of having a team in all 10 playoffs.


5. Georgia Bulldogs (12-1)


AP Photo/John Bazemore
Previous CFP rank: 1
Last playoff appearance: 2022
Total playoff appearances: 3

Why they could finish here: As good as Georgia is, the Bulldogs came up short when it mattered the most, and it happened during a season in which the field of CFP contenders is the deepest it has ever been. The burden of proof is always higher in the selection committee meeting room for teams that don't win their conference, but that's especially the case this season when there were multiple undefeated Power 5 champions for the first time. For Georgia to finish in the top four, the committee would have to deem it "unequivocally" one of the four best teams in the country. While that's certainly possible -- and Georgia played the best opponent of any of the Power 5 contenders -- any doubt in the room will keep the Bulldogs on the bubble. They would lose two tiebreakers -- the head-to-head result against Alabama and the conference title.


6. Florida State Seminoles (13-0)

Previous CFP rank: No. 4
Last playoff appearance: 2014
Total playoff appearances: 1

Why they could finish here: Florida State found a way to win again, this time with its third-string quarterback and an elite defense. The Seminoles have three wins against CFP top-25 teams, including Clemson, LSU and now Louisville, but they simply didn't look like a team capable of winning a national title. In 2014, when Ohio State was down to its third-string quarterback, the Buckeyes cracked the top four for the first time all season in large part because they embarrassed Wisconsin with a 59-0 drubbing in the Big Ten championship game. Against Louisville on Saturday, Florida State couldn't get a first down until late in the first half. The defense played at a championship-caliber level, but there were mistakes on offense that extended beyond the play of first-time starting quarterback Brock Glenn, who was replacing Tate Rodemaker, who was replacing Jordan Travis. If FSU is snubbed, it would be the first time an undefeated Power 5 team has missed the playoff. The Noles should still finish ahead of No. 7 Ohio State, No. 8 Oregon, No. 9 Missouri and No. 10 Penn State.

Yeah. And then there is this: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/playoffpredictions120223/2023-college-football-playoff-picks-conference-championships

Every single ESPN “expert” (15 of them) says Texas is in. They are split 8/7 on FSU over Alabama.  

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5 minutes ago, Nivek said:

FSU’s serviceable qb has a concussion, not death.

Media message that probably has been leaked by committee is to talk about terrible QB play for FSU in last few weeks once Travis went down.

Heather Dinich mouthpiece of committee has FSU down to #6.  Jawja #5.  Bama #4. Texas #3.  Wash #2.  Michigan #1.

 

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14 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

You feel that way because we have seen this fuck job before.  Texas checked off all the required to do things but the selection committee will find some lame reasoning for not picking them that they will repeat over and over while being unable to logically defend.  They already showed this when they ranked Oregon over Texas based on “eye test” despite all metrics favoring Texas.  Hope I’m wrong but they already showed their propensity to see only what they want.

Then surely they leave FSU out with this line of reasoning??

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16 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

they will look at the overall body of work. 

the UH and KSU close games will hurt us.

the OU loss will haunt us forever, and they will rub it in forever. 2023 was the best shot. 

and if Bama gets in over us, the "SEC SEC" chants when Yormark was speaking, will look sillyshitastic dumbfuckenstein. 

 

By this same logic then bama is turbo fucked cause they almost lost to USF and Auburn and Arkansas 

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18 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

they will look at the overall body of work. 

the UH and KSU close games will hurt us.

the OU loss will haunt us forever, and they will rub it in forever. 2023 was the best shot. 

and if Bama gets in over us, the "SEC SEC" chants when Yormark was speaking, will look sillyshitastic dumbfuckenstein. 

 

 

40 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

Woke up much less confident than I was when I went to sleep. The thing is we just don’t know how the committee is gonna handle it.

But the games on the field have to matter, otherwise what are we doing.

 

43 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

We’re going to get fucked because SEC can’t not get in. 

You guys need to learn how to enjoy life. We are locked in. I think they give FSU the nod over Bama because it’s the easiest path, but we’re golden.

A hearty fuck you to the paint chip eaters who thought we should root for Georgia. Man we have some dumbass fans. I assume most of you got admitted in the 80s or 90s.

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Bama's problem is committee won't get to the criteria of factoring in injuries as the first part of their process is "comparable teams" and an undefeated Power 5 team is different than a 1 loss Power 5 team. FSU is getting in.

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The selection committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering:

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Another way of looking at SOS. If it matters to the committee and head to head matters like they said, then it may be enough for Alabama to overtake FSU with their undefeated championship win. I have it like this. This way, OOC games will continue to be scheduled like Texas and Alabama or tOSU and Oklahoma, otherwise teams won't do that, especially when the playoff games expand. Going undefeated to earn your spot should very important but does it overcome the other two factors? Remember the TCU example when they gave them the nod for going undefeated in a weak ass Big 12 year. I'm sure the committee remembers.
1. Washington

2. Michigan

3. Texas

4. Alabama

 

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Jerry Palm has us in:

Bowl projections: Texas gets College Football Playoff bid over Alabama with Michigan moving to No. 1

By Jerry Palm
 
11h ago2 min read

It was a wild Championship Week with Alabama taking down Georgia in the SEC Championship Game punting the Bulldogs from competing for a third straight national championship and putting the Crimson Tide in a head-to-head debate with the one team that defeated them this season, Texas. The Longhorns, which thoroughly took down the Tide by 10 points on the road at Bryant-Denny Stadium back in Week 2, completed their campaign with a dominant 49-21 win over Oklahoma State in the Big 12 Championship Game.

With only three undefeated Power Five teams remaining following the Georgia loss -- Michigan shut out Iowa and Florida State crawled to victory over Louisville in a rock fight -- Texas is now projected as the fourth seed in the playoff over Alabama by virtue of the 'Horns head-to-head victory back on Sept. 9. 

The CFP Selection Committee will use criteria including championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head results (if applicable) and comparative outcomes against common opponents in making its determinations. Texas and Alabama both won conference titles Saturday, and while the 'Horns have a tougher strength of schedule, the Tide have more wins over CFP-ranked teams -- four (including over No. 1) vs. three.

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7 minutes ago, G650 said:

Texas is clearly in the playoffs, you guys really need to stop being professional victims. The Horns are the best team in the country right now

Oh we're not  going to fall for your Alabama reverse-voodoo-hoodoo hex.  Texas is terrible.  Alabama would win convincingly! 

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FSU can’t really help themselves when it comes to their own conference schedule. 
 

They played LSU and Florida out of conference. 
 

Has anyone really looked at how the SEC did out of conference. The best win is Missouri over KState which required a 60 yard field goal at the buzzer. 
 

Bama should be left out. 

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Does the committee go by best team right now? Texas & Bama are in the playoff. 

Does the committee go by on the field results? FSU is in for being undefeated and Texas is in for beating Bama.

Do I think the committee will apply one philosophy to let in Bama and another to let in FSU, thereby screwing Texas? Yes. Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely scenario.

If/when this happens, CDC needs to announce that the Michigan game next season is off. The CFP committee will have made it crystal clear that beating a top tier OOC team on their field by double digits is meaningless. 

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8 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

You either a.) haven’t listened very well or b.) do not understand what “fluid” means

She tweeted a few hours ago how she wouldn’t mind seeing a Texas-Alabama NC CFP game. She gets her tidbits from the committee. I’m not saying she’s telling us what the committee is saying but she’s right more often that she’s wrong 

i'm not up to date what she has said lately, just telling you what i heard her talk about on the radio all this week.. she was on the PAC 12 radio (which was aired on 84), on Full Ride with Chris and Rick.. and she was on with Mandel on his podcasts saying the same thing over and over..  If she changed her tune, that's good cause she basically mocked the win in Tuscaloosa throughout the week

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9 minutes ago, MrX said:

FSU can’t really help themselves when it comes to their own conference schedule. 
 

They played LSU and Florida out of conference. 
 

Has anyone really looked at how the SEC did out of conference. The best win is Missouri over KState which required a 60 yard field goal at the buzzer. 
 

Bama should be left out. 

 

6 minutes ago, immamac said:

It’s simple. If committee wants to send an OOC games matter message Texas and Alabama are in. If they want to send a schedule all the cupcakes message they will put in FSU and Texas (or bama).

Lulz. 

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

We’re going to get fucked because SEC can’t not get in. 

 

58 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

Woke up much less confident than I was when I went to sleep. The thing is we just don’t know how the committee is gonna handle it.

But the games on the field have to matter, otherwise what are we doing.

 

5 minutes ago, Josef Pwag said:

Does the committee go by best team right now? Texas & Bama are in the playoff. 

Does the committee go by on the field results? FSU is in for being undefeated and Texas is in for beating Bama.

Do I think the committee will apply one philosophy to let in Bama and another to let in FSU, thereby screwing Texas? Yes. Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely scenario.

If/when this happens, CDC needs to announce that the Michigan game next season is off. The CFP committee will have made it crystal clear that beating a top tier OOC team on their field by double digits is meaningless. 

Texas is in. Stop it. 

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Fwiw scouring reddit and secrant , only the gumpiest of gumps thinks texas left out at all.

 

Conversation has mostly shifted to fsu vs Bama, which I take as a good signal 

 

I think it will be some permutation of 

Washington , Michigan , Texas , FSU 

And the SEC meltdown will be one for the ages 

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