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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Just a reminder that Harris has been the presumptive nominee for over a week and the GOP still doesn't have any substantive attack on her. 

They had 4 years to put together an oppo file on her (and any other potential contender, like Newsom, Whitmer, Walz, Cooper, etc., considering Biden's age) and yet... 

They have an oppo file on her, as well as everybody you mentioned.  Probably a few hundred pages at minimum.  I have a buddy who works at a data analytics company that caters to politicians, and they contribute to such collections of information.

But Trump and the others don't have time to read all that and their audiences don't want to process that, they just want to get their 30-second sound bite off for social media or whatever.   Trump could be out there talking about how Harris as DA maybe prosecuted this or that group more than she should have, but his audience's eyes would glaze over until he shouted out "DEI" and "Joe and the Hoe".

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Posted
1 hour ago, 'stache said:

And after all the time and effort pretending to investigate Joe and convicting Hunter for tax problems, the pivot is to "women without children are psychopaths and can't be leaders and all minorities in high positions are DEI."

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This'll get us back in the game!

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Posted
37 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I'd bet a fair bit of the "gay people are icky" aspect is of the dost protest too much variety.  Some of the most homophobic people I grew up with ended up being gay or bi-sexual.  But because of their conservative upbringing they not only hid it but were vocally anti-gay.

I realized at one point that all the gay bashers stridently claiming being gay was a choice should not be dismissed out of hand. What do they base this on? One can only conclude that they have faced that choice and decided that they want to be heterosexual.

A clever friend of mine was with some conservatives many years ago. The conservos were insisting it was a choice. My friend suggested, "Okay. If it's a choice, why don't we all choose to be gay for the next 15 minutes." I've remembered that because it was, IMHO, brilliant.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

. My friend suggested, "Okay. If it's a choice, why don't we all choose to be gay for the next 15 minutes." I've remembered that because it was, IMHO, brilliant.

What happened next?

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Posted
1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Disappointed it's not Walz but Beshar is a good move if that's the plan. Red State Governor who can appeal to the middle. I've heard from people in Kentucky that south Pennsylvania is referred to as Pennsytucky because they share a lot of the same demos. If he can appeal to that portion and help wrap up PA then let's go. Walz will be there to help out. 

Southwest PA is a little different than the rest of rural PA. PA used to be referred to as a T because the southeast corner was Philly and suburbs and strongly democrat. Southwest PA was the land of steel mills and coal mines and unions. It was a place where unions made a real fucking difference in towns where they’d send young kids into the mines and people worked long hours 6 days a week and were in debt to the company store. It’s a place where the changes that unions ushered in made a massive positive difference in people’s lives. And because of that it was solidly democratic from FDR through Kerry. McGovern was the only democrat that lost southwestern PA I’m that time. In that respect it has a lot in common with WV and eastern Kentucky. WV was a swing state and blue more often than not for most of the 20th century. 

And then a black man ran for president and SW PA was lost for at least a generation. 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

If Project 2025 was popular, Trump would have embraced it.  When somebody around him saw that it was turning off a shitload of people, it had to go.

They'd already lied about it not being part of the campaign. Why should anyone take this denial seriously? 

That's a map to hell in your hand.

I disavow this map.

But you still have it.

No, I don't...

It's just not the positive that they assumed it would be with the same inability to read a room as individual Trumpists who bleat on and on thinking everyone must surely agree with them.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Just call him a liar. Once he gets in office, it’s a project 2025 full steam ahead. Hammer that point.

Ab-so-fucking-lutely.   I think Pete said it best:

 

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Posted
36 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Now press him on if he plans on hiring any of the P2025 guys into his administration.   "Shutting down the website" isn't enough.   

 he'll just lie about it. 

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Posted
34 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Now press him on if he plans on hiring any of the P2025 guys into his administration.   "Shutting down the website" isn't enough.   

Does anyone remember this stunt?

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Exact same thing.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Does anyone remember this stunt?

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Exact same thing.

Him getting away with this with basically zero scrutiny from anyone was one of my first "oh shit" moments of his Presidency.

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Posted
1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

My sense is that if it's not Walz it's because something turned up on the background check

Or cholesterol levels 

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Posted
6 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

 

The overarching theme of this stuff, whether it was the "childless cat ladies" soundbite, his attempt at clarifying that, or this new one, is that JD Vance seems to think he is the first person to ever have children or have children that they care about in their life. Major "tech bro discovers parenthood" vibes.

I don't know how this guy hasn't died of asphyxiation from the enormous volume of his own farts he seems to have huffed.

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Posted
1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

The overarching theme of this stuff, whether it was the "childless cat ladies" soundbite, his attempt at clarifying that, or this new one, is that JD Vance seems to think he is the first person to ever have children or have children that they care about in their life. Major "tech bro discovers parenthood" vibes.

I don't know how this guy hasn't died of asphyxiation from the enormous volume of his own farts he seems to have huffed.

don't give him a pass on this. he's just a horrible person who looks down on other people - for a whole host of reasons. My future BIL quipped while drunk one time, "Parents are just better people." I think there are a lot of people who have had children that feel that they are simply better humans by virtue of having had children - most just don't say it out loud. Even fewer say it on a microphone while running for office. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

don't give him a pass on this. he's just a horrible person who looks down on other people - for a whole host of reasons. My future BIL quipped while drunk one time, "Parents are just better people." I think there are a lot of people who have had children that feel that they are simply better humans by virtue of having had children - most just don't say it out loud. Even fewer say it on a microphone while running for office. 

Yeah, I always read headlines about those parents that murder their child via neglect or abuse and think "they're such better people than me!" 

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15 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

Ab-so-fucking-lutely.   I think Pete said it best:

 

When the host tells Pete that Senators Johnson and Moscow Mitch didn’t vote for the immigration bill because it had bad stuff in it, Pete really needed to ask her what that bad stuff was.  I mean it was a softball for Pete to say, “well since you are a real news network allegedly, what exactly were those things in the final immigration bill that caused the Republicans to not vote for it.  I am sure someone on your network asked for specifics since you are supposed to be reporters and newspeople and didn’t just take their word on that, right?”  

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Posted (edited)

Morning Consult Swing State Polls - these are wild. 

All Swing States - Harris 48, Trump 47

Arizona Harris +2
Georgia TIE
Michigan Harris +11 (lol)
Nevada Harris +2
NC Trump +2
PA Trump +4
Wisconsin Harris +2

This, if true, would put the Electoral College at 268 Harris, 254 Trump, whoever gets Georgia wins

But I mean....no way Harris is up 11 in Michigan, and other than PA and MI, all of the rest look very realistic 

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Just now, Js1 said:

Morning Consult Swing State Polls - these are wild. 

All Swing States - Harris 48, Trump 47

Arizona Harris +2
Georgia TIE
Michigan Harris +11 (lol)
Nevada Harris +2
NC Trump +2
PA Trump +4
Wisconsin Harris +2

This, if true, would put the Electoral College at 268 Harris, 254 Trump, whoever gets Georgia wins

But I mean....no way Harris is up 11 in Michigan, and other than PA and MI, all of the rest look very realistic 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I firmly expect that Brisket is ok with several variants of this. 

I mean, sure....but I don't make t-shirts and shit about it.  I'm not weird.  Sick, sure.  But not weird.

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Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

 

 

But I've been in charge of special media for forty years! I used to send out the faxes! You can't replace me!

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Posted
8 hours ago, Js1 said:

New FL poll has Trump up 7 (49-42) with Rick Scott underperforming Trump (47-43) and both the abortion and weed amendments flying by (69-23 abortion and 64-31 weed)

She has some room to grow, especially with those weed/abortion numbers.

It's really strange to see such a huge gap between Trump/Scott and the no side of the amendments. The Michigan amendment passed 56-44, and it swept the GOP completely out of state government. 

Then again, this is Florida we're talking about.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Counterpoint: they claim being gay is a choice because they’re all closet homosexuals and think they’re choosing to be straight. 

I was unclear, evidently. That was my point. I better proof that.

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 One can only conclude that they have faced that choice and decided that they want to be heterosexual.

ETA It says what I want it to. There was a post right after mine that was more direct. Saying they made a choice suggests they could as well be gay or closet homosexuals. 

Maybe I just should have gone concise and direct in the way you do. 

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