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31 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

That is 100% where I'm at regarding Beshear.  With the racial (not racist but racial) horse trading we have going on here, Beshear appeals directly the white suburban voters (women) and one reason is because he's good looking and has a good looking family.  (Let's be honest, looks matter here.  Harris is good looking and telegenic, too.)  These passive white voters will start paying attention in September and October and they'll see this:

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Typical elitist white family adopting a black dog.

I kid, I kid... the only reasons I have Beshear lower than Walz (pending deep dive into his past) is that he's always either been a lawyer or politician, and I remember the pubs talking about some potential ethics issues when he was a lawyer.  I think it had something to do with allegations of helping his dad's friends... and no, the irony is not lost on me.  But that was like 5 years ago, so I could be remembering wrong.

I mean, I still voted for him back then, but just something to keep in mind. 

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34 minutes ago, Chopper said:

This photo is from 2011 when she was CA AG

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I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think they also showed her the tunnels, and from there it's an easy leap to conclude that fences/walls aren't failsafe. If you're pissing your pants because you think she may have made up a trip to the border, I'm thinking you're better off posting on 4chan or somewhere. 

I'm glad she can back it up. But holy shit this would have been worse than "inventing the internet." And I would feel much better if we had actual video of her walking the tunnels

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2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Typical elitist white family adopting a black dog.

I kid, I kid... the only reasons I have Beshear lower than Walz (pending deep dive into his past) is that he's always either been a lawyer or politician, and I remember the pubs talking about some potential ethics issues when he was a lawyer.  I think it had something to do with allegations of helping his dad's friends... and no, the irony is not lost on me.  But that was like 5 years ago, so I could be remembering wrong.

I mean, I still voted for him back then, but just something to keep in mind. 

Are you from Kentucky?  I know he does a great job of getting otherwise right leaning whites to vote for him.  Why is that?

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5 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I'm glad she can back it up. But holy shit this would have been worse than "inventing the internet." And I would feel much better if we had actual video of her walking the tunnels

Are we all done with your completely made up hypotheticals now?

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

What the fuck is wrong with you? 

He's about to go on ignore. Tired of suffering self-sabotaging fools on here. Get on the fucking team and help us win the ballgame. 

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Posted
Just now, mdmost said:

He's about to go on ignore. Tired of suffering self-sabotaging fools on here. 

He’s been there. I just can’t with this shit 

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46 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

That is 100% where I'm at regarding Beshear.  With the racial (not racist but racial) horse trading we have going on here, Beshear appeals directly the white suburban voters (women) and one reason is because he's good looking and has a good looking family.  (Let's be honest, looks matter here.  Harris is good looking and telegenic, too.)  These passive white voters will start paying attention in September and October and they'll see this:

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I think people underestimate how much the "good looking" thing also drove Beto's campaign in 2018. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

I only care about her winning the election. She's making a huge tactical mistake by trying to focus on the party's weakness.

 

57 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Get it together, man. Good grief. 

 

 

 

Thank you chainsaw for providing your perspective on the dangers of scaring away progressives by focusing on issues where Harris is seen as weak. 

I’ve had a few more hours to contemplate your perspective and I’m happy to report that I have now changed my views. Whereas before I felt like any progressive that fails to vote is in some ways dumber than magas, I am now certain that they would be dumber than magas. 

Harris, as Republican point out, has the most liberal voting record in all of Congress. If THAT still isn’t good enough for progressives, then they should all just pack up and move to a socialist country.  

And her spending just a bit of time to counterbalance that Republican talking point is hugely valuable to bringing in independents and the few unsatisfied republicans that are out there claiming they will vote Democrat. 

Your entire premise is thusly rejected.  

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Posted
1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

I think people underestimate how much the "good looking" thing also drove Beto's campaign in 2018. 

And how much everyone hated Ted

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Posted
4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

worse than "inventing the internet." 

This is also exhausting. 

Did Al Gore Say 'I Invented the Internet'? | Snopes.com

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Despite the multitudinous derisive references to the supposed quote that continue to be proffered even today, former U.S. vice president Al Gore never claimed that he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The legend arose from critics and pundits who plucked a relatively credible statement Gore made during the course of an interview, altered its wording, and stripped it of context to make it seem a ridiculously self-serving falsehood.

I realize this may be difficult to realize but republicans have been making shit up, and the media has willingly broadcast their bullshit since at least the early 1990s and the days of Newt Gingrich. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

The same people complaining about a blurry ballsack on their screen for 2.5 seconds that they screen shotted and zoomed in on are voting for president pussy grabber. They are the most disingenuous, unserious people.

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France set the bar for opening ceremonies to the Olympics. It's not even close. They were inclusive of other countries and many aspects of modern life. They blended old and new with genius. It was a fantastic show. 

I'm sure your kids were thinking, "Hey, I came here to try to watch an athletics opening ceremony! Where is the painfully slow march of athletes into a stadium and the endless drone of the TV host? I don't need no fun, thought-provoking, visually rich, unique multi-media presentation centered on a river through one of the world's most beautiful cities!"

Your kids wouldn't have last a half hour of the traditional snooze fest. I know that I never do.

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

Wouldn't they do this even if choosing a governor were a possibility rather than a certainty? Just seems like smart planning to me.

Also, I'm not at all anxious about the choice. It will seem like a big deal for one day, then we move on.

 

56 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Do you think the border has no issues? We absolutely have a smuggling issue at the border? That's not only people looking for a better life. Some of it is people who are in forced labor situations. Some of it is drugs making it into the country. Do you think Eagle Pass or El Paso are enjoying being way stations for migrants? We have to clean up the entire system and make it where people don't have to rely on coyotes to get them into the country. She is more likely to bring that than anyone else. She is going to push for more technology and agents at the border to make the system better. You can't stick your head in the sand about the situation to our south. It is a problem and it needs fixing. 

Those cities and other towns who carry the weight of immigration from the south should not have that responsibility. This is a federal issue, and the feds should pony up with money and some sort of rational, new plan. Money is the thing the government cannot be cheap about; it's cruel in its disposition towards the people coming here.

  • This is a social services problem not a military one.
  • Part of the problem is slow processing and court decisions due to overworked agents and judges.

Create a federal presence large enough to lift every source of burden to local communities off of them. Set minimum standards for detention housing that are at least  humane.

Increase the number of agents and courts although greater social service presence should relieve some of things the agents are forced to do such as providing immediate care for exhausted and possibly ill immigrants.

None of this will happen because of the malign way Trump has vilified immigrants. He should be tossed in a volcano for that alone.

 

 

52 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

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Wow. The GOPs have found the way to fourth-rate sophistry.

 

49 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I want her to win, dude. She's acting like she's ahead. She ain't.

Yes. The last thing you want to see in the potential leader of the country is the confidence of a winner. Also, you're overusing ain't as an intensifier. 

22 minutes ago, mdmost said:

All of you who think immigration is a losing issue for her, please point out which of any of these measures is a bad thing to try to enact?

Careful, don't want to drift too far towards old politics. This is more of a tank battle than the civilized and wise discourse you suggest and I lament.

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2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I'd be good Beshear but don't understand the thinking that he has everyman vibes. He looks like a model for North Face vests with a single digit handicap. 

Aka, clean cut Americana. Doesn’t scare anyone off. Very relatable in the suburbs 

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negatives - too handsome and has always been either a politician or a lawyer.

what in the world.

meanwhile, going to see if there are any great responses to the piece about Shapiro. Because it seems a lot of the problem for some people, with regards to him and Israel,  is simply that he is Jewish 

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5 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Are you from Kentucky?  I know he does a great job of getting otherwise right leaning whites to vote for him.  Why is that?

No, but I lived in rural Kentucky for the 2 years between 2018 and 2020.

His dad was a very popular Governor so he had a bit of a tail wind from that, but mostly it was kinda like Biden in 2020... the incumbent (Bevin) was one of the least popular governors in the country at the time.  But Andy still barely won.  I don't recall the exact count, but it was fewer than 10k votes.

During his reelection last year, his opponent was a black man who was basically handpicked by Moscow Mitch.  Beshear crushed him.

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Just now, DixonHur said:

No, but I lived in rural Kentucky for the 2 years between 2018 and 2020.

His dad was a very popular Governor so he had a bit of a tail wind from that, but mostly it was kinda like Biden in 2020... the incumbent (Bevin) was one of the least popular governors in the country at the time.  But Andy still barely won.  I don't recall the exact count, but it was fewer than 10k votes.

During his reelection last year, his opponent was a black man who was basically handpicked by Moscow Mitch.  Beshear crushed him.

Should mention his 2023 opponent was the sitting AG as well 

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Aka, clean cut Americana. Doesn’t scare anyone off. Very relatable in the suburbs 

I don't know, feels a little privilege-y to me when you add in that his dad was Governor. But I digress. Not that big of a deal. 

 

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2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

the confidence of a winner.

It's a mighty fine line between confidence and arrogance. Arrogance is how a campaign is talked into selecting JD Vance. Confidence (I hope) is how a campaign is not talked out of selecting Walz or Beshear.

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16 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I'm glad she can back it up. But holy shit this would have been worse than "inventing the internet." And I would feel much better if we had actual video of her walking the tunnels

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Posted
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

The Louvre....is literally full of art showing balls.  If you walked through and counted the nads in view in the Louvre, I'm pretty sure the number would look a lot like VY's total offensive yards per game.

Also all the dicks and balls are dirty from people touching them 

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Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

Should mention his 2023 opponent was the sitting AG as well 

True.  And an unpopular one.  IIRC he actually took over as AG when Beshear ran for Gov.

To be clear, I would love Beshear as the VP... he's my clear #2 choice.  I just really like Gov. Walz, but understand that he's older and not as attractive, which, unfortunately, is a factor.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Zonahorn said:

 

This dude has an uncanny knack for shitting on people in a way that makes me hate him and care more about the people he shits on.  It's pretty amazing actually.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

He butchered the Breonna Taylor shooting. 

That’s a plus in KY though

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Posted
3 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

True.  And an unpopular one.  IIRC he actually took over as AG when Beshear ran for Gov.

 

He won with 58% of the vote when Beshear won his first term. Same election 

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My wife went to dinner last night with some friends for a birthday. 3 of them are Trump voters historically. One of the trump voters who committed fraud during covid on her mortgage and a few other things that are really just shitty asshole behavior who justified it with "well the government never gives me money so I'm gonna do this now because they aren't checking anything" now has to sell said house due to a messy divorce for a substantial (40%+) loss because they bought at the peak of interest rates and the austin market. She was lamenting the situation with my wife and said "well hopefully after the election and trump wins the economy will get fixed and the house will be worth more again" to which my wife replied "you do understand that the economy is booming and unemployment is very low right now?" and then she followed it up with "you also realize Kamala is in the race and Trump doesn't have a chance anymore right?" obviously paraphrasing from what my wife told me, but this exchange was hilarious. Out of the 3 trumper girls 1 said she's voting for Kamala and the one in question said she's undecided and the one who no one even wanted at dinner because she's psychotic and claims in her currently messy divorce in which she has no custody or parental rights over her step children that "the kids will come live with her because they like her better than both their parents". 

That's what's happening in the real world. Shitty husbands of divorced battered women controlling their worldview and the one that is single and was a trumper/republican is saying she's not down for the clown show currently. This seems to be the new norm for the millennials I've interacted with. Shit has gotten too crazy for normal people who actually care to vote for trump and the only people left are the ones that have something seriously wrong with them and treat it like a cult/religion that will solve all problems.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

Just wait until you hear about this stupid lady who sued McDonalds because "her coffee was too hot".... 

I'm thinking you meant to direct that to the guy I was responding to but yeah...the difference between the two is "invented the internet" was to win an election by making an opponent sound extreme when you have nothing to offer the US, and the "coffee too hot" bs was to destroy the rights of private citizens to receive adequate compensation when they've been physically harmed and to discourage similar future behavior e.g. see the dipshit governor of Texas. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

They have literally nothing by lies to try and run on. What a fucking joke.

I mean, the catholic hater who's the VP of the 2nd (I think) catholic president ever? She also hates the jews so much she married one.

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4 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I found the opening ceremonies full of artistic choices that made me think “hm”.  
 

it will not have an appreciable effect on who I think should be directing US policy over the next four years. 

But the conversations around it will remind you of the backwardness and overall goddamsonovabithinshitassbastardness of much of our society.  And this experience does have a voting effect, at least on good people.

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Just now, mdmost said:

SHE ALSO HATES THE JEWS AND ISRAEL AND STEP CHILDREN! 

Uh, she's married to a Jewish guy and has two step kids. 


SHE HATES CHILDLESS CAT LADIES MORE THAN MY RUNNING MATE

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Did some quick googling and guess what the harris-catholic thing is all about reproductive rights and gay marriage differences. 

You mean allowing the law of the land to remain? The ones that used to allow abortions and the other that recognizes gay marriage? 

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

You mean allowing the law of the land to remain? The ones that used to allow abortions and the other that recognizes gay marriage? 

Exactly. And she isn’t trying to make Catholics have abortions or same sex marriages. Her position of “others should have those rights” is incompatible with the Catholic leadership position of “nobody should be doing that, even non-Catholics”. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

My mom, maybe the only D boomer woman in Montgomery County, told me about the latest gathering of her Little Old Ladies club.  Apparently all the right-wing boomer nutcases are freaking out that dotard has to run against Kamala instead of Biden now.  She said they were scared shitless, not about Kamala's policies; but that they didn't think there was any way dotard was going to beat her.  

Good.

No.

That's the vibe I'm getting from my small handful of acquaintances who are Republicans or Republican-leaning.  I just had a coworker who leans heavily Republican tell me that there was "no chance" that Trump wins.  Really?  "Yeah," he said--"no chance Kamala doesn't win."

Honestly, it feels a lot like the level of despair we had three weeks ago.  But maybe without the hope that their candidate could be persuaded to drop out.

And on their side, I think you can't discount the number of people who treat electoral politics as entertainment or sport.  Voting for Trump is just a mechanism to make the libs cry and whoop it up after you win.  But if Trump isn't going to win, then it's no fun.  And beyond that, there's no real point.  Why bother supporting a team if you know it's going to lose?  And if you're a person who votes only infrequently, why go out and vote if you know you're just going to be on the losing side?

With a little luck and some good work on the campaign, we can get a snowball rolling downhill to bring about an electoral thumping.

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4 hours ago, Pancho said:

Specifically what? You can just say “yeah she still has the same problems” and not give specific examples.

Getting cooked in debates because of legitimate blemishes on her record:

Having a reputation as being rather unpleasant to work with, to put it mildly:

https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-former-staffer-soul-destroying-criticism-aides-report-2021-12?op=1

Fair or not, the allegations she slept her way to the top which will resonate with a lot of (white) people in those midwest swing states.

And the fact that she's a woman and black.  I mean, you know where you live, right?  That's going to cost her votes.  

Tell me what is substantially different about 2024 Kamala from the 2020 version who managed to snag 1% of the vote.  She did a whole lot of nothing as VP.  Hid her in a closet and the one time they let her out to deal with the border it didn't go well.  She's not Donald Trump and she's not a walking, ice cream eating corpse.  Those are her positives.  If this wasn't a literal battle for the future of democracy in this country we'd want just about anyone else to be running.  Since it is a literal battle for the future of democracy, KAMALA 4 PRESIDENT!

Unfortunately in this country you have two choices.  One side are literal fascists who have completely gone through the looking glass into absolute insanity.  And the other side are Center-Right corporate stooges who pretend to give a shit while rolling over and counting their money.  I'm still waiting for an actual liberal party, hell, just a Center-Left party to emerge in American politics.  I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime and Kamala for sure ain't going to start it.  But I'll absolutely take the Corpocrats brand of do-nothing politics over the people trying to turn this country into the Handmaid's Tale.  

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Posted
16 minutes ago, immamac said:

Shit has gotten too crazy for normal people who actually care to vote for trump and the only people left are the ones that have something seriously wrong with them and treat it like a cult/religion that will solve all problems.

 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

You mean allowing the law of the land to remain? The ones that used to allow abortions and the other that recognizes gay marriage? 

to be fair, while roe v wade was supreme court decided they should have codified it and passed a law just to be sure that some stupid shit like this didn't happen again and it was nationally defined.



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