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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

This is so cringey. Florida may be closer than we think. Trump wins but man there doesn’t seem to be much enthusiasm for Trump, and Kamala events are raucous.

 


I’ve seen that exact same speech done better:

 

 

5 hours ago, Chopper said:

Kamala Harris walked into Pittsburgh's Penzeys Spices on Saturday

 

 

 

Fox is going crazy about this. They keep trying to counter the weird label with calling her “cringe” and it’s not working. 

Solid info here, this guy in PA, ralston in NV and the maricopa incoming guy in AZ are great follows for elections. Very solid analysis with hard data

 

16 hours ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Younger kid’s friend’s dad is a beat cop. They hate Trump.

4 hours ago, bluto said:

Solid info here, this guy in PA, ralston in NV and the maricopa incoming guy in AZ are great follows for elections. Very solid analysis with hard data

 

I have been screaming this. The GOP is flooding the zone with bad polls to create a narrative that Trump is winning. 2022 all over again

8 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

This is so cringey. Florida may be closer than we think. Trump wins but man there doesn’t seem to be much enthusiasm for Trump, and Kamala events are raucous.

 

To be fair, it looks like a comedy club and I haven't laughed that hard in a while. 

12 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I’ll take some Tellicherry, some turmeric, some cardamom…whatever makes sense. 

In honor of Lobo, YGifs: Damnit, I had something for this.

I was thinking:

Some mace, some horseradish, uhh... some coffee creamer...whatever makes sense. 

5 hours ago, bluto said:

Solid info here, this guy in PA, ralston in NV and the maricopa incoming guy in AZ are great follows for elections. Very solid analysis with hard data

 

How do those polls average to Trump +2.1 when not a single one is greater than Trump +2?

Outlier poll by NYT/Siena (national) was Trump 48-Harris 47 this morning 

A) outliers exist. Pollsters should publish them, because you don’t manipulate your data and hide results to avoid herding. Only becomes a trend if you see multiple high quality polls show the same result 

B) In the realm of Harris up 3-4, you will have some Trump +1/tie and Harris +6-7. That’s how it works 

C) Trump is not ever winning the national popular vote. Period. 

8 hours ago, closetohumping said:

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I"m definitely taking the bottom one.  

10 hours ago, mchookem said:

that motherfucker actually used the word 'skullduggery' 🤣

(EDIT: I guess it went away a second before the screenshot below, but "skullduggery" was trending on twitter)

 

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6 hours ago, bluto said:

Solid info here, this guy in PA, ralston in NV and the maricopa incoming guy in AZ are great follows for elections. Very solid analysis with hard data

 

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

I have been screaming this. The GOP is flooding the zone with bad polls to create a narrative that Trump is winning. 2022 all over again

"pollsters on the right" gave me a confuse for a minute.

CBS: MI/WI Harris +1, PA tie

TIPP: AZ tie

Pretty consistent with a Harris +2-3 environment 

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Outlier poll by NYT/Siena (national) was Trump 48-Harris 47 this morning 

A) outliers exist. Pollsters should publish them, because you don’t manipulate your data and hide results to avoid herding. Only becomes a trend if you see multiple high quality polls show the same result 

B) In the realm of Harris up 3-4, you will have some Trump +1/tie and Harris +6-7. That’s how it works 

C) Trump is not ever winning the national popular vote. Period. 

The reporting of their own poll leaves many good questions. The crosstabs make no sense. Nate Cohn is an asshole.

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21 hours ago, tx ind said:

Yup, half the stuff they are doing is just reposting the dumb and weird shit that dotard and Vance say.  

And that's very unfair.  Classless, in my opinion.

12 hours ago, Tuco said:

Nice. Penzeys has been in the battle for a while. They certainly lose some customers by their open fuck-MAGA stance. 

Yup, they even have a tab on their website called "About Republicans":

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Spoiler

About Republicans

As we’ve now said on our first-ever About Us page on our website, there’s something unique about humankind’s relationship with spices that time and again have caused spices to be a driving force for change. We live in a time calling out for change and for solutions to the very real problems our country and our planet face. There’s two very different futures ahead for us totally dependent on whether we solve these problems or not. With so much at stake we feel obligated to use the unique position spices hold in our lives to try to help promote the solutions to these problems as best we can.

Watching the slow decline of the Republican Party over the last half century, and the steep decline/bottom falling out over the last decade, it can be easy to see the nonsense that has overtaken the party as pretty much random. Once you start seriously looking at the problems America and the world face and who and what are standing in the way of solving those problems, it quickly becomes clear there is nothing random to what the Republicans are promoting.

The Republican departure from conservative values and embrace of what, from a distance, looks a whole lot like insanity didn’t happen by chance. All of it has been intelligently crafted with the goal of preserving the position of those who profit from the inhumanity that is at the very roots of pretty much every problem we are facing. From the environment, to racism/discrimination, to health, to saving our democracy at home and growing it abroad, half the time Republicans are intentionally blocking the solution to the problems we face. The other half of the time they are the problem we face.

The truth of our time is we’ve arrived at the point where there’s no way to respect the nonsense the Republican Party is promoting and have any hope of overcoming the problems we as a nation and we as a planet face. Given the choice between saving America and planet Earth or saving the feelings of Republican voters, we are choosing to side with saving our country and our world. I’m sorry it’s come to this.

And no, there is no HATE!!! in any of this. There is a whole lot of propaganda at the heart of much of how Republican voters have been steered away from conservative values to what they now seem all too happy to vote for. The thing to remember about propaganda is that it doesn’t just misinform, it also works to make people immune from the truth by convincing them any facts that counter their propaganda are nothing more than HATE!!! But we really have no hate for Republican voters. None at all.

I actually like and respect most of you guys. Sure, there are a growing number that are there for the racism, but I still believe the majority of you have good hearts that want to help and do the right thing. I know you to be trustworthy, and honest, and funny, and caring, and good souls. The problem isn’t what you are, the problem is what you are now voting to support. You guys have been turned around.

Remember when your distrust of big city types, and your deep rooted beliefs in paying your debts, respecting your marriage, raising kids willing to serve, honoring your word, and going to church every week had you voting for Donald Trump over Joe Biden all because Biden’s son had a computer? Or how you couldn’t vote for Hillary because she was over-prepared and used emails? I know that to you your actions seem rational and in keeping with your values, but when it comes to voting you are now consistently voting in people who are the exact opposite of you and the values you hold dear.

What does any of this mean? Going forward we would still be glad to have you as customers, but we’re done pretending the Republican Party’s embrace of cruelty, racism, Covid lies, climate change denial, and threats to democracy are anything other than the risks they legitimately are. If you need us to pretend you are not creating the hurt you are creating in order for you to continue to be our customer, I’m sad to say you might be happier elsewhere.

If on the other hand you still want the best spices and don’t need us to respect what you now vote for to be our customer, Hooray! We are happy to have you here, but know that we will, on a regular basis, try to wake you up from this dream that has you believing there is anything conservative left at all to what the Republican Party has become. We can and will work without Republicans to solve the problems we face, but it sure would be nice to get back to a time where Republicans were equal defenders of equality, the environment, and democracy. We look forward to that day.


Thanks for reading. Thanks for being here,

Bill

 

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That’ll give Trump a few extra minutes on the shitter, complaining about Bush on social media.

13 hours ago, Tuco said:


Nice. Penzeys has been in the battle for a while. They certainly lose some customers by their open fuck-MAGA stance. Good to see Kamala give them some love. And that clip is going to be all over left wing/activist social media because Penzeys is a great follow.

 

34 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yup, they even have a tab on their website called "About Republicans":

Spoilered for length . . .

  Hide contents

About Republicans

As we’ve now said on our first-ever About Us page on our website, there’s something unique about humankind’s relationship with spices that time and again have caused spices to be a driving force for change. We live in a time calling out for change and for solutions to the very real problems our country and our planet face. There’s two very different futures ahead for us totally dependent on whether we solve these problems or not. With so much at stake we feel obligated to use the unique position spices hold in our lives to try to help promote the solutions to these problems as best we can.

Watching the slow decline of the Republican Party over the last half century, and the steep decline/bottom falling out over the last decade, it can be easy to see the nonsense that has overtaken the party as pretty much random. Once you start seriously looking at the problems America and the world face and who and what are standing in the way of solving those problems, it quickly becomes clear there is nothing random to what the Republicans are promoting.

The Republican departure from conservative values and embrace of what, from a distance, looks a whole lot like insanity didn’t happen by chance. All of it has been intelligently crafted with the goal of preserving the position of those who profit from the inhumanity that is at the very roots of pretty much every problem we are facing. From the environment, to racism/discrimination, to health, to saving our democracy at home and growing it abroad, half the time Republicans are intentionally blocking the solution to the problems we face. The other half of the time they are the problem we face.

The truth of our time is we’ve arrived at the point where there’s no way to respect the nonsense the Republican Party is promoting and have any hope of overcoming the problems we as a nation and we as a planet face. Given the choice between saving America and planet Earth or saving the feelings of Republican voters, we are choosing to side with saving our country and our world. I’m sorry it’s come to this.

And no, there is no HATE!!! in any of this. There is a whole lot of propaganda at the heart of much of how Republican voters have been steered away from conservative values to what they now seem all too happy to vote for. The thing to remember about propaganda is that it doesn’t just misinform, it also works to make people immune from the truth by convincing them any facts that counter their propaganda are nothing more than HATE!!! But we really have no hate for Republican voters. None at all.

I actually like and respect most of you guys. Sure, there are a growing number that are there for the racism, but I still believe the majority of you have good hearts that want to help and do the right thing. I know you to be trustworthy, and honest, and funny, and caring, and good souls. The problem isn’t what you are, the problem is what you are now voting to support. You guys have been turned around.

Remember when your distrust of big city types, and your deep rooted beliefs in paying your debts, respecting your marriage, raising kids willing to serve, honoring your word, and going to church every week had you voting for Donald Trump over Joe Biden all because Biden’s son had a computer? Or how you couldn’t vote for Hillary because she was over-prepared and used emails? I know that to you your actions seem rational and in keeping with your values, but when it comes to voting you are now consistently voting in people who are the exact opposite of you and the values you hold dear.

What does any of this mean? Going forward we would still be glad to have you as customers, but we’re done pretending the Republican Party’s embrace of cruelty, racism, Covid lies, climate change denial, and threats to democracy are anything other than the risks they legitimately are. If you need us to pretend you are not creating the hurt you are creating in order for you to continue to be our customer, I’m sad to say you might be happier elsewhere.

If on the other hand you still want the best spices and don’t need us to respect what you now vote for to be our customer, Hooray! We are happy to have you here, but know that we will, on a regular basis, try to wake you up from this dream that has you believing there is anything conservative left at all to what the Republican Party has become. We can and will work without Republicans to solve the problems we face, but it sure would be nice to get back to a time where Republicans were equal defenders of equality, the environment, and democracy. We look forward to that day.


Thanks for reading. Thanks for being here,

Bill

 

Thanks for this. We used to go there but haven't in a while for a while. Will be be going back.

 

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What's the number of former cabinet members who won't support him? Something like 40 of 44? He has the support of zero former republican presidents and vice-presidents, including his own. He's also pushing 80 and spewing nonsense every time he opens his mouth. In addition to being a convicted felon and rapist and being twice impeached.

And this morning we wake up to a poll showing him up +1. Sometimes it's just really hard to believe this is reality.

I guess someone got their feelings hurt.

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11 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

 

Fox is going crazy about this. They keep trying to counter the weird label with calling her “cringe” and it’s not working. 

This is the epitome of authentic retail politics. The unbridled, but individual, emotions of the three people she interacts with reflects the different ways I see her candidacy.

Put it in an ad. Awesome, no notes.

17 hours ago, mdmost said:

There was a really good Kamala ad during the Michigan game here in Dallas. All about creating an opportunity economy. 

On that above tweet, she'll talk about it on Tuesday, he'll deny it. The media won't fact check. Wash and repeat. 

The Texas fans at the MGM sports book booed her adds every time they came on.

Embarrassing GIF

I wonder how hard it is for Harris to not look into a camera and say something like "So this race is supposedly a tossup. What the fuck is wrong with you people?"

I've used this analogy before but it would be like if the Texas job was open and we were trying to decide between Dan Lanning, and Bill Cosby. "I don't know, Cosby just got out of prison. Because he's a rapist. And I don't think he's ever coached football before." 

"Yeah but Lanning didn't win the national championship last year, so there are pros and cons on both sides...."

36 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Dubya is a fucking coward. 

Trump did a bunch of stuff W wished he could have done

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yup, they even have a tab on their website called "About Republicans":

Spoilered for length . . .

  Reveal hidden contents

About Republicans

As we’ve now said on our first-ever About Us page on our website, there’s something unique about humankind’s relationship with spices that time and again have caused spices to be a driving force for change. We live in a time calling out for change and for solutions to the very real problems our country and our planet face. There’s two very different futures ahead for us totally dependent on whether we solve these problems or not. With so much at stake we feel obligated to use the unique position spices hold in our lives to try to help promote the solutions to these problems as best we can.

Watching the slow decline of the Republican Party over the last half century, and the steep decline/bottom falling out over the last decade, it can be easy to see the nonsense that has overtaken the party as pretty much random. Once you start seriously looking at the problems America and the world face and who and what are standing in the way of solving those problems, it quickly becomes clear there is nothing random to what the Republicans are promoting.

The Republican departure from conservative values and embrace of what, from a distance, looks a whole lot like insanity didn’t happen by chance. All of it has been intelligently crafted with the goal of preserving the position of those who profit from the inhumanity that is at the very roots of pretty much every problem we are facing. From the environment, to racism/discrimination, to health, to saving our democracy at home and growing it abroad, half the time Republicans are intentionally blocking the solution to the problems we face. The other half of the time they are the problem we face.

The truth of our time is we’ve arrived at the point where there’s no way to respect the nonsense the Republican Party is promoting and have any hope of overcoming the problems we as a nation and we as a planet face. Given the choice between saving America and planet Earth or saving the feelings of Republican voters, we are choosing to side with saving our country and our world. I’m sorry it’s come to this.

And no, there is no HATE!!! in any of this. There is a whole lot of propaganda at the heart of much of how Republican voters have been steered away from conservative values to what they now seem all too happy to vote for. The thing to remember about propaganda is that it doesn’t just misinform, it also works to make people immune from the truth by convincing them any facts that counter their propaganda are nothing more than HATE!!! But we really have no hate for Republican voters. None at all.

I actually like and respect most of you guys. Sure, there are a growing number that are there for the racism, but I still believe the majority of you have good hearts that want to help and do the right thing. I know you to be trustworthy, and honest, and funny, and caring, and good souls. The problem isn’t what you are, the problem is what you are now voting to support. You guys have been turned around.

Remember when your distrust of big city types, and your deep rooted beliefs in paying your debts, respecting your marriage, raising kids willing to serve, honoring your word, and going to church every week had you voting for Donald Trump over Joe Biden all because Biden’s son had a computer? Or how you couldn’t vote for Hillary because she was over-prepared and used emails? I know that to you your actions seem rational and in keeping with your values, but when it comes to voting you are now consistently voting in people who are the exact opposite of you and the values you hold dear.

What does any of this mean? Going forward we would still be glad to have you as customers, but we’re done pretending the Republican Party’s embrace of cruelty, racism, Covid lies, climate change denial, and threats to democracy are anything other than the risks they legitimately are. If you need us to pretend you are not creating the hurt you are creating in order for you to continue to be our customer, I’m sad to say you might be happier elsewhere.

If on the other hand you still want the best spices and don’t need us to respect what you now vote for to be our customer, Hooray! We are happy to have you here, but know that we will, on a regular basis, try to wake you up from this dream that has you believing there is anything conservative left at all to what the Republican Party has become. We can and will work without Republicans to solve the problems we face, but it sure would be nice to get back to a time where Republicans were equal defenders of equality, the environment, and democracy. We look forward to that day.


Thanks for reading. Thanks for being here,

Bill

 

And for those who don't remember the signs from their Milwaukee store, a few blocks from the RNC: 

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...then when Harris spoke at the same venue during DNC:

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18 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

For those who need a visual:

 

 

Her ground game in PA needs to be flawless. I hope she destroys this motherfucker in the debate.

13 hours ago, closetohumping said:

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I have to say, Evil looks pretty hot there.   It gives me this vibe:

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3 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Dubya is a fucking coward. 

Yeah, plus Trump has been good for his legacy. They forget what an overall crapfest his two terms were and all of the many ways he foreshadowed Trump. If he starts making public statements about Trump, people might start taking a look back at his presidency again and he probably doesn’t want that.

Like what if people start connecting him to the expanded militarization of police forces all around the country and the resulting increase in civilian deaths, or the rise of military grade weaponry in the hands of the citizenry and the concomitant explosion in mass shooting deaths?

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The replies are priceless.

"They are trying to get the disaffected “Roman who are tired of those illegal Barbarians, Franks, Visigoths, and Picts takng away our jobs” vote!!!"

"Romanes eunt domus"  (for the Monty Python/Life of Brian fans)

"Latin for Latino voters."



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So weird how frequently these dudes keep finding themselves in mid-apocalypse California when they want to escape middle America.

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NGL, did that myself while swimming with the granddaughter,didn't want Sea World showing up to try and rescue me. 

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 



The replies are priceless.

"They are trying to get the disaffected “Roman who are tired of those illegal Barbarians, Franks, Visigoths, and Picts takng away our jobs” vote!!!"

"Romanes eunt domus"  (for the Monty Python/Life of Brian fans)

"Latin for Latino voters."



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low blow using the cowboy star !!!!

37 minutes ago, Underdog said:

NGL, did that myself while swimming with the granddaughter,didn't want Sea World showing up to try and rescue me. 

How bad could anyone  possibly look that something like that could happen?

 

 

 

 


(checks board)

Oh.

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The polling is what it is, but the Siena crosstabs are wild. 

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51 minutes ago, Underdog said:

NGL, did that myself while swimming with the granddaughter,didn't want Sea World showing up to try and rescue me. 

I Guess If You Say So GIF

19 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

This is so cringey. Florida may be closer than we think. Trump wins but man there doesn’t seem to be much enthusiasm for Trump, and Kamala events are raucous.

 

Abortion, abortion, abortion. It's presence on the ballot in Florida is a massive Republican problem that no one appears to be taking seriously. 

It would be one thing if polling kept showing it in line with every other GOP pol on the ticket. But if it's anywhere close to the 60 percent needed to pass, I have a really hard time thinking that there are that many ticket splitters in that state. 

Also, the fact that open Harris support even exists in areas Trump needs to win 90-10 is telling me that the engine is leaking oil. 

21 minutes ago, Pancho said:

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39 minutes ago, Pancho said:

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I don't know how anyone could write that in good conscience.

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