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4 minutes ago, South Austin said:

My daughter turned 18 in August, and she just registered to vote a few days before I fly her to Oregon to move her into her freshman dorm.  She's going to vote absentee from college, and she knows that her vote in Texas won't mean much.  But she wants to contribute to what we hope is a popular vote pile on, and she said she'd regret not voting, not matter the outcome. 

Man, I hope there are a lot more like her in November.

It's the same with my daughter going to school in New York. She's still a student and intentionally registered in Texas to ensure her vote counts here. Besides, she may yet come back when she graduates but, honestly, she flip-flops a lot on that decision for good reason.

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

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The overall odds may not have shifted that dramatically, but Harris’ ceiling sure has been raised.  Biden’s best case scenario was winning the blue wall by enough to have the election called on election night and not having to wait on AZ or GA.  Harris’ best case includes winning every Atlantic coast state outside of SC, and potentially having this thing put to bed before the sun sets in Austin.

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16 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

He still doesn’t know how tariffs work. 

  • Tariffs - They won't raise taxes on Americans, trust me I'm in Business
  • Medicine/ healthcare - Horse paste, shine light on the inside of the body, inject bleach, post term abortions
  • Crypto - We'll write 35 Trillion on a little piece of paper and pay off the debt (Maybe he knows how crypto works)
  • Mexico - will pay for the wall but they're not making any cars
  • War - would not have started if I was in charge, those dictators love me
  • Oil - Drill baby drill, companies will lose money on every barrel but they'll make up for it in volume
  • Inflation - Will drop interest rates on credit cards and that will help people with inflation (Only if he means on existing debt but people will lose credit or maybe he's trying the student loan forgiveness plan but for people with 20K in debt from buying Trump branded junk)

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Posted
2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Only Mark Robinson did nazi this coming.

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

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Take it for what it's worth, but I have an in-law in Florida that drives a cyber truck and voted for Trump the first time around that assures me the state is very much in play.  He lives in an area and travels in circles that are affluent, traditionally conservative and were very strongly for Trump in 2016.  He said there was a trickle away in 2020 (when he "defected").  He now calls people leaving the Trump voter fold "a flood."  He says that most of the people who he knows that Trump is losing today aren't going to vote D, but they aren't going to vote R either.  He only fears some crazy October surprise that brings them back to being motivated to vote against the Dems.

That'll be $9.95.

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Posted
14 hours ago, pacman said:

Those images are from an Etsy shop, but I am sure she sent that cease and desist herself lol

 

We actually owe Trump a huge thank you. It used to be difficult to tell which suburban white women were crazy and which weren't.

We always keyed in on the eyes but it was hard to tell.

Now, Trump has made it easy as can be to identify the crazies and fewer of our tires have been slashed and cars keyed because of it.

Good point.  The crazy lady that has put up 40 4x8 custom Maga signs throughout Lakeway might be a little off.

The lady with the single Harris sign down the street is a much safer bet.

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5 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

So if North Carolina goes blue, what is the most likely next state to be called that would clinch it? 

It would take a combo of states - MI + WI + one of PA/GA/NV/AZ

If NC, MI, WI all get called for Harris and Jon Ralston says Harris will win NV in his pre-Election Day prediction post, then you can take that to the bank. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

His real answer there was “who knows about anything”.  Thats really the only part that he said that he actually believes.

He’s pretty much revealed that he doesn’t understand in the slightest what cryptocurrency actually is and thinks it’s a scam.  Luckily for him the idiots who are passionate about it will give support to literally anyone who just says the word “crypto” over and over, even if that person has no fucking clue what they’re talking about.

 

2 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Sounds like he understands it pretty well. 

Yep.

Honestly, I can't think of two people/groups who deserve each other more: Trump and crypto bros.  They are a match made in grifting heaven.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, 'stache said:

As of this morning 5 Harris-Walz signs on my street. According to trumps logic, he's gonna lose Oklahoma bigly, lol.

As far as I've seen, I have the only Harris/Walz sign in my neighborhood, but there are a lot fewer Trump signs compared to 2020.

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41 minutes ago, Pancho said:

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36 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I still do not believe the Florida is in play.

I remember when the Hillary Clinton campaign was thinking it could add in a few battleground states, too.  
 

That said, she needs to be spend her money somewhere and it appears no one wants to bank it and use it discreetly to take over the Texas Democratic Party.  

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Just now, LCHorn said:

 

I remember when the Hillary Clinton campaign was thinking it could add in a few battleground states, too.  
 

That said, she needs to be spend her money somewhere and it appears no one wants to bank it and use it discreetly to take over the Texas Democratic Party.  

The luxury of having so much more money than your opponent is that you can take a flyer on a couple of states. Florida probably a good high risk/high reward state with an unpopular Rick Scott and abortion on the ballot plus add in a large Haitian community that should be pissed off at Trump and Vance right now.

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Just now, royiv said:

The luxury of having so much more money than your opponent is that you can take a flyer on a couple of states. 

This is what I think.  She has a huge financial advantage.  Good to see she's using it.

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Just now, locodos said:

This is what I think.  She has a huge financial advantage.  Good to see she's using it.

FL, with abortion and weed on the ballot, is more enticing than Texas.  A little money could get both the ballot items across 60% and get DMP against Scott.  Money is fine, but don't waste time physically in the state when you need to keep going in all the 7 swing states.

It's quite clear she's not dropping money into Texas because there's nothing giving them a real reason - Allred is not running alongside her, he's trying to run independent of her, and there's no competitive House races.  You can't drop money into MT or OH and nationalize those races, Brown and Tester don't want that.  There's way more than enough money for Gallego, Slotkin, Baldwin and Casey.

If I was Harris, I'd drop some money into FL and drop some into NY/CA for House races.  Go ahead and throw a little at Alsobrooks, though she's pulling away now as Maryland is reverting to it's blue status. 

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4 minutes ago, royiv said:

The luxury of having so much more money than your opponent is that you can take a flyer on a couple of states. Florida probably a good high risk/high reward state with an unpopular Rick Scott and abortion on the ballot plus add in a large Haitian community that should be pissed off at Trump and Vance right now.

 

3 minutes ago, locodos said:

This is what I think.  She has a huge financial advantage.  Good to see she's using it.

Yep.  And there's a solid strategic weapon in making your opponent waste some of his precious resources playing defense somewhere where 1) he shouldn't have to otherwise, but 2) he has to play it safe because he's toast if he loses it.

If Florida or Texas go blue in this environment, Trump is absolute toast.  So make him defend his "capital city" so to speak.  Every dollar Trump has to spend in Florida is a dollar he can't spend in AZ or NC etc.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

As far as I've seen, I have the only Harris/Walz sign in my neighborhood, but there are a lot fewer Trump signs compared to 2020.

Signs are starting to appear in our Bluffview (the poor side) neighborhood. Harris/Walz signs outnumber Trump's by a slight number. Our across-the-street neighbor put up Harris/Walz and Colin Allred signs yesterday. He's a big executive at AT&T. I think he waited until after they hosted a huge TCU-SMU watch party (their daughter graduated from TCU) because they've probably got a large number of MAGA friends that might not have liked the signs!

Their immediate next-door neighbor put up a Trump sign last week. She's a high-volume residential real estate agent/broker with Compass or Allie Beth or Briggs -- can't remember which -- who ran for public office this spring and lost in runoff. Their sign was right near the street and I think it was "disturbed" so they moved it closer to the house.

My next door neighbors are mid/late 30's child-less couple who make a ton of money at AT&T. They're awesome and hard-core Dems. In a matter of a week, my wife has gone from "no way we're putting a political yard sign out front" to actually entertaining our next door neighbors and us both putting them out so our street will lean heavy Harris in public support. We'll see how that goes -- probably going to order signs for next door neighbors and us so we have them on hand in case Mrs C-Man orders the "code blue."

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Posted
14 hours ago, Tuco said:

Well, that's cool and all, but how much money did he make for speaking? I'm not talking donations; how much did he add to his personal income? 

CNN

 

I think we just peeled back the curtain on how they are skimming the GOP coffers. Good bet that Trump is doing the same - paying himself for speaking at his "rallies" and calling them "speaking engagements."

13 hours ago, Pancho said:

I choose to believe what Debbie Mucarsel-Powell said just now on the msnbc. I’m going to think positively.

 

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10 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I don't think on the Presidential side it is at all, but I think we got a real chance and knocking off Rick Scott.  

This. She just wants Kamala down there to help her against Scott.

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

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13 minutes ago, royiv said:

The luxury of having so much more money than your opponent is that you can take a flyer on a couple of states. Florida probably a good high risk/high reward state with an unpopular Rick Scott and abortion on the ballot plus add in a large Haitian community that should be pissed off at Trump and Vance right now.

IMHO this is also about making Trump spend money in Florida - which is supposed to be a "Safe R" state for this cycle. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

And there's a solid strategic weapon in making your opponent waste some of his precious resources playing defense somewhere

#1, I don’t think more money helps Trump anyway.  His cake is baked (you said it on another post and I’ve read it elsewhere-his ceiling is his floor).  
 

#2, the Trump campaign is comparatively small with fewer satellite offices; they pretty have to spend their money on traditional and digital advertising because they aren’t set up to pivot elsewhere.  
 

I’m sure this is over-reading into it, but I’d presume there’s some realistic reasons to spend in Florida (defend abortion rights) and maybe subordinate but also satisfying reasons (Mar-A-Lago tv’s running pro-Dem ads, maybe trying to shape now what a post-DeSantis Florida looks like).  

Posted
1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

I was curious what exactly was in the 2024 GOP platform, regarding how they would address immigration.

https://prod-static.gop.com/media/RNC2024-Platform.pdf

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This is a reminder that when you hear someone call Kamala a Marxist, sincerely ask them to define a Marxist because you don't understand what it means. It will make them look and feel stupid. Most likely they will reply with communist or socialist. I would wrap up that conversation in that the Red Scare was proven to be fake in the 50s.

 

Posted
53 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Only Mark Robinson did nazi this coming.

Take it for what it's worth, but I have an in-law in Florida that drives a cyber truck and voted for Trump the first time around that assures me the state is very much in play.  He lives in an area and travels in circles that are affluent, traditionally conservative and were very strongly for Trump in 2016.  He said there was a trickle away in 2020 (when he "defected").  He now calls people leaving the Trump voter fold "a flood."  He says that most of the people who he knows that Trump is losing today aren't going to vote D, but they aren't going to vote R either.  He only fears some crazy October surprise that brings them back to being motivated to vote against the Dems.

That'll be $9.95.

I had a similar conversation with my dad. White man, 70's, O&G background. He recounted 3 conversations he had in the past several weeks with 3 of his oldest friends - all who voted for Trump in both 16 and 20. All 3 are sitting this one out, including the one guy who had previously told him he'd "die before he ever voted for a Democrat." Hilariously, they all told him that they now realize that they have to excise Trumpism from the GOP. LOL, good luck.

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2 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

#1, I don’t think more money helps Trump anyway.  His cake is baked (you said it on another post and I’ve read it elsewhere-his ceiling is his floor).  
 

#2, the Trump campaign is comparatively small with fewer satellite offices; they pretty have to spend their money on traditional and digital advertising because they aren’t set up to pivot elsewhere.  
 

I’m sure this is over-reading into it, but I’d presume there’s some realistic reasons to spend in Florida (defend abortion rights) and maybe subordinate but also satisfying reasons (Mar-A-Lago tv’s running pro-Dem ads, maybe trying to shape now what a post-DeSantis Florida looks like).  

There are post 2024 reasons as well.  You let a state go and it'll keep going.

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Posted
1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

I still do not believe the Florida is in play.

Florida is in play, and Texas is also in play. Democrats need to stop dooming about R+3 Florida and R+5 Texas. Trump has a hard ceiling and isn’t gaining support, and both states are way too big of a prize to just write off.

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2 minutes ago, Foosters said:

He said there was a trickle away in 2020 (when he "defected").

Okay sure but Trump tripled his margin in FL between 2016 and 2020. I think people Need to understand there was a lot of Covid related migration.

FL/TX/MT could be redder than 2020 and CA/NY/CO/WA could be bluer than 2020 based on where it seems people are moving from and to. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

I think we just peeled back the curtain on how they are skimming the GOP coffers. Good bet that Trump is doing the same - paying himself for speaking at his "rallies" and calling them "speaking engagements."

 

This. She just wants Kamala down there to help her against Scott.

 

IMHO this is also about making Trump spend money in Florida - which is supposed to be a "Safe R" state for this cycle. 

Yes. And even if the Trump campaign ultimately does not focus on FL, they waste time, including fielding calls from Rick Scott, thinking about it. You may even get them to make some mistakes.

The only argument about spending money in decided states is that you may slightly move the national numbers, which can impact undecided states. People have a tendency to follow the crowds.

Not to mention that you might as well spend excess money in states or districts that can help you if you end up winning. Helping Tester get elected, or winning that one more House race may be extremely important in upcoming years.

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Yes. And even if the Trump campaign ultimately does not focus on FL, they waste time, including fielding calls from Rick Scott, thinking about it. You may even get them to make some mistakes.

I’d 100% drop ads and billboards in West Palm Beach to drive him nuts though. 

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While Harris can outspend Trump, she isn't out air timing him, nobody can.   He is talked about and on TV non-stop, almost 24/7, ranting about illegals and inflation.  Of course he never gives tangible realistic ways he or the GOP can fix either...

 

 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Hilariously, they all told him that they now realize that they have to excise exorcise Trumpism from the GOP. LOL, good luck.

FIFY and there is going to be a whole lot of this on the right...

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Do they not realize that to have any chance to excise Trump they need to vote FOR Harris?  He needs to be beaten so badly that even the GQP will dump him.  Sitting out doesn't really run up the margins needed for the party to summon the courage to overthrow dear leader.

But of course logic doesn't reign even amongst the educated elites in the GQP.

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

Florida is in play, and Texas is also in play. Democrats need to stop dooming about R+3 Florida and R+5 Texas. Trump has a hard ceiling and isn’t gaining support, and both states are way too big of a prize to just write off.

Agreed, but the problem with Texas is the size - you have to know where to spend and focus in order to get the maximum benefit and turnout.

Democrats and Republicans have spent YEARS researching and placing targeted ads/offices in specific counties in swing states like Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia.

They would need to do the same with Texas which has more large cities than any potential swing state. So you are looking at targeting demographic groups in 5 of the 12 most populous cities in America - Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, and Fort Worth.

That's not even including El Paso which is on the other side of the state - and El Paso is bigger than Detroit, Las Vegas, and Milwaukee (the MSAs are bigger but the cities themselves are smaller).

It can be done but requires a large investment in time, money, personnel, and infrastructure. It's the kind of thing that needs to be built up over several years. 

They at least have an idea where to spend in Florida due to its history as a swing state. 

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This election is existential in terms of voting not mattering after a Trump dictatorship, that said viewing this assuming democracy survives because the GOP is not in power:

The problem I see with FL is that it is a perpetual fascist migration magnet: old people and white Latin America, its way smarter to concentrate all resources into trying to flip Texas because the demographics are just better. Maybe in 20 years after those COVID snowbirds have died of natural causes. But then another seismic event and they all move into Florida again.

Again this election is too important so disregard the above, if FL is in play dedicate some resources.

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3 minutes ago, linux said:

This election is existential in terms of voting not mattering after a Trump dictatorship, that said viewing this assuming democracy survives because the GOP is not in power:

The problem I see with FL is that it is a perpetual fascist migration magnet: old people and white Latin America, its way smarter to concentrate all resources into trying to flip Texas because the demographics are just better. Maybe in 20 years after those COVID snowbirds have died of natural causes. But then another seismic event and they all move into Florida again.

Again this election is too important so disregard the above, if FL is in play dedicate some resources.

Funny enough, or not, I’ve been on and off to phone with diff moving companies for my move next month and the one yesterday said their most popular moves right now are CA to Texas, CA to FL and NY to FL. And it’s obvious who is coming to these places 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Agreed, but the problem with Texas is the size - you have to know where to spend and focus in order to get the maximum benefit and turnout.

Democrats and Republicans have spent YEARS researching and placing targeted ads/offices in specific counties in swing states like Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia.

They would need to do the same with Texas which has more large cities than any potential swing state. So you are looking at targeting demographic groups in 5 of the 12 most populous cities in America - Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, and Fort Worth.

That's not even including El Paso which is on the other side of the state - and El Paso is bigger than Detroit, Las Vegas, and Milwaukee.

It can be done but requires a large investment in time, money, personnel, and infrastructure. It's the kind of thing that needs to be built up over several years. 

They at least have an idea where to spend in Florida due to its history as a swing state. 

The Texas Democrat Party (do they really even exist?) has been a failure in letting Texas go without a fight. Even if you are destined to lose, it's important to retain whatever ground you have. They are plenty of potential Democrat voters in Texas who are surrounded by vocal GOP voters. Many just either don't bother voting or they succumb to the pressure of voting GOP. And even some may be voters who might bounce back and forth but they won't if they're ignored.

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