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1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

It’s a continuation of this. 
 

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The voices you hear are likely to be educated.  You can see more every day what those people think of the right. 

 

1 hour ago, Red Five said:


Look at where that starts to really take off…. Birth of the internet, Fox, and prime Rush Limbaugh.

Eh, not sure I agree with your police work there.  The point of inflection is 1992, and since then every successful candidate has been a newcomer or outsider perceived as disruptive 
 

Obama was broadly perceived in the same terms as Trump by the people who have been damaged the most by the consolidation of productivity gains- disruptive to the establishment order. And you can go back further than that.

Think about it this way: these are the presidents elected since WWII:

- sitting president/VP/Senator

- Supreme Allied Commander

- Sitting Senator

- Sitting President/VP/Senate Maj Leader

- Former VP
Vietnam ends

- Outsider Governor

- Radical Governor

- sitting VP CIA Director, VP, congressman, ambassador, son of powerful senator (return to establishment via next man up)

1992

- Southern Governor

- Southern Governor 

- First term senator

- Notorious Celebrity

 

The relevant historical Trend here is that the white working class has been in political and cultural rebellion since the end of Vietnam and starting with Bill Clinton through Obama to Trump you see the recipe being refined to its essentials.

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4 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:


Satan’s cheerleaders are on a strict diet of semen.

IIRC it's called the Liucci - Stoops plan.

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3 hours ago, Red Five said:

"Less focused" got me. 

"They're eating the dogs. They're eating the pets. Biden took all of FEMAs money and gave it to illegal immigrants, who btw are all murderers." 

Shortly into Trump’s term, I attended a talk by James Baker. He was asked for his thoughts on the Trump Admin and his response stuck with me: “He just needs more discipline.”

Normalcy bias and giving Trump the benefit of the doubt conspired to fuck the world over. These professional clowns repeatedly reacted to an empty, narcissistic parasite as if he were a normal human being that they, as seasoned politicians and manipulators of powerful people, could control. Whether naïveté or willful blindness or pure hubris, it screwed us.

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4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Shortly into Trump’s term, I attended a talk by James Baker. He was asked for his thoughts on the Trump Admin and his response stuck with me: “He just needs more discipline.”

Normalcy bias and giving Trump the benefit of the doubt conspired to fuck the world over. These professional clowns repeatedly reacted to an empty, narcissistic parasite as if he were a normal human being that they, as seasoned politicians and manipulators of powerful people, could control. Whether naïveté or willful blindness or pure hubris, it screwed us.

This was November 10th, 2020:

“What is the downside for humoring him for this little bit of time? No one seriously thinks the results will change,” the official said. “He went golfing this weekend. It’s not like he’s plotting how to prevent Joe Biden from taking power on Jan. 20. He’s tweeting about filing some lawsuits, those lawsuits will fail, then he’ll tweet some more about how the election was stolen, and then he’ll leave.”

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

Eh, not sure I agree with your police work there.  The point of inflection is 1992, and since then every successful candidate has been a newcomer or outsider perceived as disruptive 
 

Obama was broadly perceived in the same terms as Trump by the people who have been damaged the most by the consolidation of productivity gains- disruptive to the establishment order. And you can go back further than that.

Think about it this way: these are the presidents elected since WWII:

- sitting president/VP/Senator

- Supreme Allied Commander

- Sitting Senator

- Sitting President/VP/Senate Maj Leader

- Former VP
Vietnam ends

- Outsider Governor

- Radical Governor

- sitting VP CIA Director, VP, congressman, ambassador, son of powerful senator (return to establishment via next man up)

1992

- Southern Governor

- Southern Governor 

- First term senator

- Notorious Celebrity

 

The relevant historical Trend here is that the white working class has been in political and cultural rebellion since the end of Vietnam and starting with Bill Clinton through Obama to Trump you see the recipe being refined to its essentials.

Eh, Governor is a pretty conventional candidate.  Neither Clinton nor Obama were, in my opinion, particularly "outsider" candidates other than Obama being black, and Clinton faking it pretty well.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Had no idea Harris was going on the Howard stern show this week. 

Well the campaign didn’t announce it until like 11 hours ago

Posted
18 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Eh, Governor is a pretty conventional candidate.  Neither Clinton nor Obama were, in my opinion, particularly "outsider" candidates other than Obama being black, and Clinton faking it pretty well.

Your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad. Clinton was a marginal candidate and mostly unknown outside of the state of Arkansas except by politics junkies in the spring of 1992. His candidacy was only possible because when Bush looked unbeatable going into the early fall of 1991, all the top contenders on the Democratic side declined to run including the top two “next generation” candidates.  Clinton ran as an insurgent outsider change candidate appealing to working class people on the losing end of the Reagan revolution. 
And I can’t even imagine how to argue that Obama was anything other than THE change candidate and a deep outsider in the early spring of 2008. I mean, that’s a wild take. His blackness was symbolically important, obviously but his candidacy represented rejection of both the Bush doctrine of foreign policy AND the Clintonomic economic doctrine of globalization and financial neoliberalism. 

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In those days I was not very politically aware.  I had a couple of close friends and coworkers who asked me if I wanted to go see Obama speak in Austin during his intial campaign runup.  I had no idea who the guy was (and didn't go).  He was the very definition of an "outsider".

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad. Clinton was a marginal candidate and mostly unknown outside of the state of Arkansas except by politics junkies in the spring of 1992. His candidacy was only possible because when Bush looked unbeatable going into the early fall of 1991, all the top contenders on the Democratic side declined to run including the top two “next generation” candidates.  Clinton ran as an insurgent outsider change candidate appealing to working class people on the losing end of the Reagan revolution. 
And I can’t even imagine how to argue that Obama was anything other than THE change candidate and a deep outsider in the early spring of 2008. I mean, that’s a wild take. His blackness was symbolically important, obviously but his candidacy represented rejection of both the Bush doctrine of foreign policy AND the Clintonomic economic doctrine of globalization and financial neoliberalism. 

Harris will be the president of collapse or the president of breaking the fourth turning. 

A reset has to happen, when was the last graceful reset? 

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

Harris will be the president of collapse or the president of breaking the fourth turning. 

A reset has to happen, when was the last graceful reset? 

No such thing.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad. Clinton was a marginal candidate and mostly unknown outside of the state of Arkansas except by politics junkies in the spring of 1992. His candidacy was only possible because when Bush looked unbeatable going into the early fall of 1991, all the top contenders on the Democratic side declined to run including the top two “next generation” candidates. 

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/campaign-92-the-race-to-avoid-being-the-guy-who-loses-to-bush/2859836

As evidence, this Saturday Night Live skit. "The fact is I couldn't beat David Duke in Harlem."

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29 minutes ago, wood said:

 

Why isn’t Tillis calling out individuals who are lying about the situation and creating chaos? Hmmm.

The only brave republicans are the ones who are retiring. There have been exceptions but they realize that it’s the end of their gop career.

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Posted
4 hours ago, YChang said:

I totally understand that college isn’t for everyone, but there still needs to be some amount of history/literature type courses to foster critical thinking for people who go through the trade school route. 

Agree 100%, but the last thing our corporate overlords want is a highly literate proletariat.

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Just now, DaysOff said:


Is she an immigrant who overstayed her visa, too?

The damage was already done over 40 years ago when she dropped that corn cob shaped like a fetus through her piss fenders.

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Posted
32 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

 

Does "Maye" even exist or are we looking at a Norman Bates situation with Elmo?  Also, is "Maye" suggesting you can vote 10x at the same polling place(s)?  I'm registered to vote in KY, TX & NY and you're GD right I'm using all 3 votes! 

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25 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Does "Maye" even exist or are we looking at a Norman Bates situation with Elmo

Probably a Leon burner account 

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This today, 60 Minutes tomorrow, Stern Tuesday

Lots of different audiences in a 3 day span, from gender to age to socioeconomic status 

And then you get the Univision townhall on the 10th to give you the demo move

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8 minutes ago, immamac said:

Just finished listening. Obviously not the target audience, but a very strong showing for Kamala. 

I like what they're doing here and they've been doing it for awhile.  Even when Biden was the top of the ticket, they were going on podcasts instead of the NYT and what not.  It's a more targeted audience and in this case, Call Her Daddy is decidedly younger women who may or may not vote so it's a turnout play.  Also, they have millions of listeners which is more than the NYT editorial page....

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Just now, Dnaguy said:

Explain It Season 5 GIF by The Office

She's the Joe Rogan of women podcasts. Active listeners measured in millions, main demo 18-40 year old women who work and are normal. 

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7 minutes ago, immamac said:

She's the Joe Rogan of women podcasts. Active listeners measured in millions, main demo 18-40 year old women who work and are normal. 

That's exactly how I described it to my wife.  Joe Rogan for young women.  (I don't listen to either but they have huge audiences.)  This combined with Taylor Swift might have major turnout implications.

FWIW, the previous episode of Call Her Daddy is titled "Heather McMahon:  Blow job, hall passes, and frat daddies."

Lulz.

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I just googled it. And the interview with her talking with a pornstar came up. I listened but had to stop when they talked about tonguing butt while jerking off dudes.

Not because I’m not hip to the scene. But I do have to cook dinner.

I wonder if Kamila will be asked the same questions about Dougie fresh.

2024 is wild.

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My 8 year old daughter is now legitimately afraid of me voting for bob Casey because McCormick is running an ad tying Casey to an illegal immigrant that raped an 8 year old girl during kids shows. 

the worst fucking people. 

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

What did he say now?

He is the sole avowed trumper, of whom I am aware, on this site. 
 

I assume you saw that turnip warned Kamala voters they will get hurt, if they are known to support her.

My Kamala sign going up asap.

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