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5 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Interesting...

Didn't realize you were the left to Karl Marx...

Nope.

I think society is most prosperous (which should be all our aims, but isn't) operating at the right blend of democratic government rule and free enterprise, but thank you for unintentionally illustrating the Overton Window in which we exist and the casual nature in which you post such a thing that would be taken seriously in a multitude of forums.

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1 minute ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Nope.

I think society is most prosperous (which should be all our aims, but isn't) operating at the right blend of democratic government rule and free enterprise, but thank you for unintentionally illustrating the Overton Window in which we exist and the casual nature in which you post such a thing that would be taken seriously in a multitude of forums.

If you think everyone but badteammate is a conservative here, I would LOVE to understand your definition of "conservative".

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16 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Ask @Bozo_Casanova

Don't know his definition, but apparently I'm not remotely conservative.

 

So...go to my post above on my positions...

lol. There is literally no one you have an opportunity to vote for who shares those “positions”. 

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Just now, Ag with kids said:

If you think everyone but badteammate is a conservative here, I would LOVE to understand your definition of "conservative".

Someone who has never voted for the GOP since the Reagan Revolution.

How's that? 

You made the accusation. The onus is on you.

List the posters in this lib hellscape you believe who have never once voted GOP.

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4 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

GHWB increased taxes.  THAT is why they abandoned him.

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Then in 1991, he signed a bill increasing taxes.

His son, GWB, DID propose reducing spending, though.

But, it would have involved reforming social security.

The Democrats shot that down.

The Democrats shot it down? 

Good one.

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No. I don’t play word games. 

I don’t Agree that you have been

I'm not asking if you play word games.

I can't have an intelligent discussion with your without YOUR definition of what a "conservative" is.

 

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other than your obvious support for lowering marginal income tax rates for top earners.

How do you get that from what I'm posting?

Are you implying that I don't want taxes kept low for people that are not top earners?

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Do you have examples of the others?

IDK what examples you're looking for.

 

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

lol. There is literally no one you have an opportunity to vote for who shares those “positions”. 

I didn't say anything about voting.

Do you have someone that shares your positions that you have had an opportunity to vote for lately?

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Who gives a shit?  

Is agwithkids of the opinion that Bush's war in Iraq was money well spent?

That's a good point.  I wonder if the payback from hiring extra IRS agents might be a good return on investment?  I'm sure he's 100% behind that.

 

a) you can put an @ in front of a username and it will send a notification

b) WTF are you asking about "Bush's war in Iraq"?

c) And what about IRS agents?

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Posted
Just now, Ag with kids said:

I didn't say that.

How would you infer that from my post?

So you vote for people who don’t share the positions you allegedly support?

Posted
1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

They didn't need Democrats. 

It failed because it was incredibly unpopular and Republicans wouldn't support it.

My point above is still correct.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-man-allegedly-attacked-reporter-yelling-trumps-america-now-rcna185768

Colorado man allegedly attacked reporter after yelling 'This is Trump's America now'

A Colorado man will spend New Year's Eve behind bars, accused of bias crimes for allegedly trying to strangle a TV news reporter while saying, “This is Trump’s America now,” officials said.

Patrick Thomas Egan, 39, was arrested Dec. 18 and booked on a slew of charges stemming from the unprovoked assault on KJCT reporter Ja-Ronn Alex, 22, in Grand Junction, authorities said.

Egan was still being held in lieu of $20,000 bond at Mesa County Jail on Tuesday afternoon, online sheriff's records showed.

Alex, who is a Pacific Islander, told investigators he was out in the field when a Sunshine Rides taxi started following him, with the cab driver shouting aggressive remarks.

"Are you even a U.S. citizen?" Egan allegedly shouted, according to an affidavit in the man's arrest. "This is Trump's America now! I'm a Marine and I took an oath to protect this country from people like you." 

Alex told his manager about the menacing suspect and she told him to return to the station, so he could be inside the "secure building and get away from" Patrick as soon as possible, the affidavit said.

But before Alex could make it to the front door, Egan "chased after him" and "was demanding Ja'Ronn's ID and asking him if he was an American," according to the affidavit. 

The suspect then "tackled him to the ground causing his injuries," and put the victim "into a headlock and began to strangle him," the complaint said. 

Several employees of the station then rushed to Alex's side and pulled Egan's "arms from round Ja'Ronn's neck and held him on the ground until law enforcement arrived," according to the affidavit.

Witnesses told investigators that Alex's "face was turning red as he was being strangled" by the suspect and that he was "losing his ability to breathe" during the attack that lasted between 45 and 90 seconds, according to the complaint.

Egan was booked on suspicion of assault by strangulation, a bias motivated crime and harassment by ethnic intimidation, jail records showed.

He’s due back in court on Thursday.

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Posted
12 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Define conservative. 

Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

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Posted
Prolly off some, but I came across the figure of 36 trillion in uncollected taxes, due to tax cuts. But sure, let old people starve and the sick die, so billionaires can threaten our national security.
Treasonous fools.

4 major tax cuts since 2001, all by Republican presidents.
Posted
1 hour ago, DaysOff said:


4 major tax cuts since 2001, all by Republican presidents.

Yep, there's two components to "fiscal responsibility," spending and revenue.  It is not responsible to cut revenue while doing nothing about spending.

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Posted
17 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

So, are you of the opinion that SS operates at 100% efficiency?

what is efficiency in this context?

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45 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Literally nothing in the world works at 100% efficiency but somehow conservatives want that to be the metric by which we judge things and whether programs are useful and effective? lol, gtfo

Only stuff that helps people. Stuff that hurts people or transfers dollars from the public to favored special interests are don’t have to be either useful or effective.  The Juicero guy should have gotten in with these guys- there would be a Juicero in every prison cell and public school cafeteria America. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, DaysOff said:


4 major tax cuts since 2001, all by Republican presidents.

All financed with debt,  no less.

4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yep, there's two components to "fiscal responsibility," spending and revenue.  It is not responsible to cut revenue while doing nothing about spending.

Sort of. It’s is true enough, but the relationship here is far more complicated than that, because revenue often rises when taxes are reduced, and revenue will often decline when outlays are decreased materially. 

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1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Literally nothing in the world works at 100% efficiency but somehow conservatives want that to be the metric by which we judge things and whether programs are useful and effective? lol, gtfo

Second Law of Thermodynamics

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21 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Sort of. It’s is true enough, but the relationship here is far more complicated than that, because revenue often rises when taxes are reduced, and revenue will often decline when outlays are decreased materially

Sorry @TwiceHorn I didn’t finish the thought.

The relationship between revenue and spending is mediated by the effect of each on productivity. So deficit reduction is really about landing the plane- modest tax increases in the aggregate but mostly reallocating the overall tax burden off of spenders in order to sustain productivity; and simultaneous modest spending cuts in the aggregate, while reallocating the remaining spending towards productivity support and away from categories that generate long term cost. 
 

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Posted
6 hours ago, DaysOff said:


4 major tax cuts since 2001, all by Republican presidents.

Wait, I thought we were at war during those times. Who the fuck cuts taxes during a war? 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Wait, I thought we were at war during those times. Who the fuck cuts taxes during a war? 

The fucking party that seeks to hobble this country with debt as an excuse to put an end to federal safety net programs.

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2 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

The fucking party that seeks to hobble this country with debt as an excuse to put an end to federal safety net programs.

They have to burn down the village to save it

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

They have to burn down the village to save it

The only way to get those excellent homegrown engineers willing to work for shite wages, and to free corporations from government regulations, is turn the USA into India. 
 

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To be fair, India has those miraculous dabawallas.

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36 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

The only way to get those excellent homegrown engineers willing to work for shite wages, and to free corporations from government regulations, is turn the USA into India. 
 

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Posted

Some context here from the 2019 Trump thread:

On 1/25/2019 at 3:16 PM, Aqua Buddha said:

Ann Coulter is on Bill Maher tonight.

Holy shit Nikki was on fi-yah:

 

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

The fucking party that seeks to hobble this country with debt as an excuse to put an end to federal safety net programs.

this has been the plan since 1984

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Posted
23 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Roughly 1/2 to 2/3 of the "echo chamber" were reliable GOP voters like me that were increasingly uncomfortable with "social conservatism." When Trump finally ripped the bandaid off so we could see that "social conservatism" was thinly veiled bigotry and racism, well, a lot of us figured out that a lot of "conservative" policies were complete bullshit, also.

Este. 

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On 1/4/2025 at 10:02 PM, TwiceHorn said:

Roughly 1/2 to 2/3 of the "echo chamber" were reliable GOP voters like me that were increasingly uncomfortable with "social conservatism." When Trump finally ripped the bandaid off so we could see that "social conservatism" was thinly veiled bigotry and racism, well, a lot of us figured out that a lot of "conservative" policies were complete bullshit, also.

Slowly realizing you've been played by some incredibly basic, overly simplistic, pat-yourself-on-the-back, emotion-based propaganda over multiple decades is a bitch.

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WOOHOO!

I see Penelope did her normal thing and found a bunch of my posts specifically to neg rep me.  I assume she's trying to get me sent to purgatory like she did earlier.

I find the her behaving like an 8 year old throwing a tantrum quite amusing...

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