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5 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Except it is stupid and bad because Denmark is a treaty Ally, and a good one at that, and we could address nearly all of the legitimate security issues by talking to them instead of threatening them. All except making it “ours.” 

That’s a how point, not a what point. 

 

6 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I am not sure at all where this messaging is coming from that Denmark is shitty and mistreats Greenlanders.
 

Me neither. Your rectum perhaps?

7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

They have nearly full autonomy and get most of their budget paid for by Denmark.  They get to be EU citizens with full freedom of movement.  They are fine enough that they have the luxury to turn down major extractive projects over environmental concerns.

They want independence (and in the past Denmark has made it clear they would  like to be off the hook financially) but haven’t held a referendum for it because they would can’t backfill $500mm/year and NATO protection by themselves.

12 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It’s not like it’s so awesome to be an American Samoan or Guamanian and we’re so much better.  This bit is a lot of posturing and just giving cash payments to Greenlanders raises the question of if PR and Samoans get one, too

Nice strawman, for the  the record:

1) DC should be ceded to Virginia and Maryland

2) Puerto Rico should be a state

3) if someone want to purchase overlordship of Samoa and Guam I’m all ears. 

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18 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Except it is stupid and bad because Denmark is a treaty Ally, and a good one at that

And one more thing- maybe if the Danes were so worried about Greenland they shouldn’t have left its defense to the allies and signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazis. It’s important to recall that Greenland essentially declared independence in 1940 after the Fall of Denmark and invited the United States to defend it. And we have been holding it ever since. 

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6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

And one more thing- maybe if the Danes were so worried about Greenland they shouldn’t have left its defense to the allies and signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazis. It’s important to recall that Greenland essentially declared independence in 1940 after the Fall of Denmark and invited the United States to defend it. And we have been holding it ever since. 

“Maybe if Ukraine wanted Donbas and Crimea then Bandera shouldn’t have…” “The Ukrainian Khrushchev gifted Crimea against its residents’ will…” blah blah blah.  

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1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The how and what can’t be disentangled. I can have good reasons for wanting to obtain my neighbor’s tract

But it’s not your neighbor’s tract. 

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

“Maybe if Ukraine wanted Donbas and Crimea then Bandera shouldn’t have…” “The Ukrainian Khrushchev gifted Crimea against its residents’ will…” blah blah blah.  

Give me a fucking break. That’s a truly stupid analogy and borderline offensive on top of it. 

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

Give me a fucking break. That’s a truly stupid analogy and borderline offensive on top of it. 

Lulz, you’re absolutely engaging in stupid historical gibberish to justify going and taking a piece of territory from country.  Putin bangs on and on about how Russia has the right to what it wanes because of World War II and alleged failures of other nations. 

You’re normally a sane poster, step away from the old GOP think-tankers desperately try to pretend things aren’t as shitty as they are.  Close your eyes and try to imagine GHWB bullying Denmark to seize Greenland.  

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Lulz, you’re absolutely engaging in stupid historical gibberish to justify going and taking a piece of territory from country.  Putin bangs on and on about how Russia has the right to what it wanes because of World War II and alleged failures of other nations. 

If you are seriously equating the Soviet occupation of Ukraine in WWII as a pretext for the current Russian invasion to our welcome presence in Greenland, ongoing since we stopped the Nazis from invading it in 1940 you have no business lecturing anybody about “historical gibberish.”

 

5 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

You’re normally a sane poster, step away from the old GOP think-tankers desperately try to pretend things aren’t as shitty as they are.  Close your eyes and try to imagine GHWB bullying Denmark to seize Greenland

Perhaps the first sentence should be an indication that maybe this isn’t the break you think it is.  
Trump is obviously nonsensical in his approach, and his motives have nothing to do with the foreign policy stakes at issue here. That said, he can’t bully Denmark to seize Greenland. It doesn’t belong to Denmark. Greenland accepts Danish overlordship and can leave at any time. 

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10 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Oh yeah, thanks for the non-partisan infrastructure plan that should have been done decades ago.  You did the bare minimum to keep the economy going as we go head first into the abyss of fascism.  How about the minimum wage?  Or the promised public option?  

The point is the democrats have largely regressed on policy since Obamacare and opted to mostly play defense while also managing to lose the big elections (these things could be related!)

The idea of universal healthcare or tuition free college isn’t even in the realm of possibilities anymore for Democrats. That is a massive leadership failure. 

So you’re ignoring the largest climate bill in our history too?

Sure they have regressed on policy a bit. I mean they clearly have tried to cater to middle ground voters in an effort to win. The Overton window shifted massively to the right. 
It’d be super awesome if they ran on free college and free healthcare but that clearly wouldn’t win for them.

Republicans literally spent decades telling everyone they were going to take away healthcare and social security so not really sure what you think dems should have done.

It’s not a leadership failure, it’s populace failure. Blaming progressives, or dems, or neocons, or Hilary or Kamala is all bullshit window dressing. This country has an education problem and that’s why we are here.

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8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

If you are seriously equating the Soviet occupation of Ukraine in WWII as a pretext for the current Russian invasion to our welcome presence in Greenland, ongoing since we stopped the Nazis from invading it in 1940 you have no business lecturing anybody about “historical gibberish.”

 

Perhaps the first sentence should be an indication that maybe this isn’t the break you think it is.  
Trump is obviously nonsensical in his approach, and his motives have nothing to do with the foreign policy stakes at issue here. That said, he can’t bully Denmark to seize Greenland. It doesn’t belong to Denmark. Greenland accepts Danish overlordship and can leave at any time. 

Trump is, right now, trying to bully Denmark into selling us Greenland which gives lie to the absolute mind-numbing stupidity of the way you’re describing home rule and Greenland’s relationship with Denmark. 
 

I have no idea what you’re driving at with the whole World War II diversion.  You are correct that across Europe and the North Atlantic, the U.S. liberated and defended territories and countries.  Unlike the Soviets, we didn’t make them ours.  Now 80 years later we are changing our minds? 
 

The correct approach to this is to let Greenland and the Danes sort their relationship out, not put our finger on the scale one way or another. 

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14 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Trump is, right now, trying to bully Denmark into selling us Greenland

once more, for clarity: DENMARK CAN’T SELL US GREENLAND. While the words people use may describe something that sounds like that, that framing does not accurately reflect the nature of Denmark’s relationship with Greenland. Greenland can choose to leave Denmark, and can choose to subject itself to us, or independence. 

 

14 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

which gives lie to the absolute mind-numbing stupidity of the way you’re describing home rule and Greenland’s relationship with Denmark

Consider for a moment that you are implying that Trump is accurately describing it. It’s like you are screaming “TRUMP IS TRYING TO BULLY OUR ALLIES INTO PAYING TARRIFS ON IMPORTS TO THE US.”

14 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I have no idea what you’re driving at with the whole World War II diversion.  You are correct that across Europe and the North Atlantic, the U.S. liberated and defended territories and countries.  Unlike the Soviets, we didn’t make them ours.  Now 80 years later we are changing our minds? 

This goes may back well before WWII. I summarized the history of Danish and US involvement in Greenland upthread.

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2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Imagine being so weak you have to pick a fight with *checks notes* Denmark.

Wait until he learns that Denmark makes all of the weight loss drugs that people love.

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17 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

once more, for clarity: DENMARK CAN’T SELL US GREENLAND. While the words people use may describe something that sounds like that, that framing does not accurately reflect the nature of Denmark’s relationship with Greenland. Greenland can choose to leave Denmark, and can choose to subject itself to us, or independence. 

 

Consider for a moment that you are implying that Trump is accurately describing it. It’s like you are screaming “TRUMP IS TRYING TO BULLY OUR ALLIES INTO PAYING TARRIFS ON IMPORTS TO THE US.”

This goes may back well before WWII. I summarized the history of Danish and US involvement in Greenland upthread.

The Danish parliament has to concur with any independence referendum, it has always been viewed as pro forma because the Danes are chill and pragmatic, but of course turning this into an issue of national pride and bullying from a superpower has a way of changing equations.  You’re seriously misrepresenting how the relationship works. 
 

You are correct that 19th century style imperialism has a logic to it.  For hundreds of years the U.S. has been involved or wanted lots of territory including huge chunks of Mexico, Cuba, the Philippines, Greenland, and others.  It’s almost like the world has changed and we figured out a better way to coexist and advance our interests. 

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Except it is stupid and bad because Denmark is a treaty Ally, and a good one at that, and we could address nearly all of the legitimate security issues by talking to them instead of threatening them. All except making it “ours.” 
 

I am not sure at all where this messaging is coming from that Denmark is shitty and mistreats Greenlanders.  They have nearly full autonomy and get most of their budget paid for by Denmark.  They get to be EU citizens with full freedom of movement.  They are fine enough that they have the luxury to turn down major extractive projects over environmental concerns.

It’s not like it’s so awesome to be an American Samoan or Guamanian and we’re so much better.  This bit is a lot of posturing and just giving cash payments to Greenlanders raises the question of if PR and Samoans get one, too. 


This is silly. Just look at the respect and support that trump gives our current territories. Greenland would be thrilled to be treated with such dignity.

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1 minute ago, GenXer said:


This is silly. Just look at the respect and support that trump gives our current territories. Greenland would be thrilled to be treated with such dignity.

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That was terrible. And the treatment of PR has sucked for a long time, no matter what administration. See the power outages a few weeks ago? The contract to rebuild the grid sat in protest for a long time.

Also, can you do that image with him throwing Elon?

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23 minutes ago, HornPhD said:

How soon will maga start boycotting Columbia Sportswear?

Right after their done boycotting Columbo. 

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11 minutes ago, Constant said:

Right after their done boycotting Columbo. 

I’m all for boycotting flowers for Valentine’s Day. 
 

I’ll see what the wife thinks. 

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4 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

2) it would be better for the security of the Western Hemisphere for it to be a territory or protectorate of the United States. 

Seems we've done ok security wise with it in Denmark's hands. 

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I’ll be honest, first time I’ve heard the national anthem in a few weeks just now tuning into bills v chiefs. Not sure how I feel about it, brown, black, immigrant, women, queer, gay and trans not welcome. Saw one player with a tear, I’m sure it was about being in the game, I pretended it was solidarity with all of us who are deemed “other”. That helped a smidge. What a country we live in. Heartache is the only way to describe it. Same feeling I have with Texas. Just pure heartache.

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Colombia 1

Trump 0

 

 

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Also, I really hope that people like that know how much a lot of us despise Trump. I hope they know we tried.
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2 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Make Every Coffee Starbucks Coffee 

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and state that if the Starbucks CEO donates something, say, oh, a million to the Trump Presidential Library fund, coffee will be exempt from import tariffs.  

 

 

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So I had felt that outside of eggs, grocery inflation had held pretty stable over the last year at least as it comes to HEB prices.

Costco has been a lot more interesting. At first in post pandemic inflation it seemed they were resisting the in vogue nature of rising prices. But they succumbed as the manufacturers and suppliers raised prices.

What’s interesting is how they continue to raise prices. I’m curious if that’s something you’ll see from others as well or if it’s just a hang over.

Today I noticed their 200 ct trash bags went up $1 from last week (17.99 vs 16.99). 50 lb Diamond Water softener salt is also up a $1 (6.99 vs. 5.99). I can’t say when that price hike happened but it’s also pretty recent. 

Just more things to watch imo …..

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3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Treating Latin American countries this way is the surest way to get more China presence in the Americas. 

He doesn’t understand that shit, he’s playing checkers.

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53 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Seems we've done ok security wise with it in Denmark's hands. 

Because it wasn’t and hasn’t been for 85 years. 
 

 

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The Danish parliament has to concur with any independence referendum, it has always been viewed as pro forma because the Danes are chill and pragmatic, but of course turning this into an issue of national pride and bullying from a superpower has a way of changing equations.  You’re seriously misrepresenting how the relationship works. 

lol ok

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

You are correct that 19th century style imperialism has a logic to it.  For hundreds of years the U.S. has been involved or wanted lots of territory including huge chunks of Mexico, Cuba, the Philippines, Greenland, and others.  It’s almost like the world has changed and we figured out a better way to coexist and advance our interests. 

Again, strawman. What else you got? 



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