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5 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

He can believe that “A” and “Not A” are both true at the same time 


So ... Trumpinger's "A?"

Seriously, I don't even think he's a bullshit artist anymore. I just think that he's old, his mind is completely gone, and he truly can't remember saying "A," and, since he doesn't believe "A" right now, in this moment, he doesn't believe he ever said "A."  Then tomorrow he'll wake up, say "A" again, then the next day not remember that he said "A," and not believe he ever said it.  It's groundhog "A." 

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30 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

fuck trump. Zelenskyy should head to Europe and figure it out without us

the europeans should do a deal with the chinese to build a firewall around this insane madman

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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I was told that Fox is trying to spin this as “Trump standing up for America”. That is some real 1984 Orwellian shit.

They looked pretty rudderless to me. I’m sure they will get their story straight, but they all looked shocked and disgusted as it was happening.

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I'm trying to parse/deconstruct this.  In what universe does this make sense? 

"I have determined that President Zelensky is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations."

 

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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I was told that Fox is trying to spin this as “Trump standing up for America”. That is some real 1984 Orwellian shit.

I was on my way home and switched over to 590AM right before noon. I have no idea what show was airing/who the hosts were, just that it was two white men playing the clips of dotard & JV acting like petulant fucktards.  Then the hosts were like "wow, we have NEVER heard that kind of leadership from the Oval Office in the history of our country, have we?"

We are turbo fucked.

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3 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

I'm trying to parse/deconstruct this.  In what universe does this make sense? 

"I have determined that President Zelensky is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations."

 

It means Ukraine has no leverage without American weapons or aid. It’s just written by some idiot like Dan Scovino so it doesn’t make any fucking sense

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1 hour ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Also, this is all an act for his base.  Trump wants an excuse to pull all help for Ukraine to let Putin take it over.  Hell, he will do the same to the rest of Europe if Putin asks. 

 

maga is eating this up 

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I think this is all a social experiment to study brainrot. There is no rational explanation I can for the fact that half this country supports this bullshit. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

As a fellow USNA grad I am so fucking embarrassed and I haven't even watched any of the videos yet.  Fucking unreal.  

do yourself a favor: don't.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

Yeah, I don't think that's gonna work even with idiots. Everyone knows Russia invaded Ukraine and that this isn't how you treat anyone. This is bad optics even for the base. They are self destructing. 

He wears a suit jacket 

He does dress quite Russian.

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I'm libertarian/conservative.  I didn't vote for Trump.  Right now I'm going through all the emotions, but mostly I'm just sad. Sad, embarrassed, and angry.  It's apparent on its face that Russia invaded Ukraine.  Even if one of my kids is doing the "I'm not touching you I'm not touching you" to the other, when the other hits them, that's on them. Fuck Russia.  For the U.S. this is a terrible look in every way: we look every part of the bully, we're cozying up to Russia/Putin, we're denigrating a democratic partner, we're selling out an ally, we're abdicating any type of leadership role and moral authority, we're taking advantage of the weak and stealing their wealth.  We're so far from the "shining city on the hill" that Reagan described, it's sad.  I'm sad.

And I get why people voted for Trump.  They feel marginalized, overlooked, like the economy left them behind.  They see DEI as quotas reborn and are told that if they're white, male, or straight that they are essentially evil.  Trump tapped into that anger and rage. What I can't square is how they overlook all the stuff above because it's their guy.  "Yeah he's an asshole and he's hurting me, but he's my asshole and he's hurting everyone I hate more."

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Rhetorical question I know, but can anyone honestly articulate what we are standing up against?  

Democracy.

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So next steps now, there is no way Zelenskyy stays in office, right?  His relationship with Trump and necessity of U.S. support for Ukraine precludes it.  Playing out the chess game, Ukraine's moves are:

  1. He stays as President and capitulates to Trump's demand for subjugation and sells out mineral rights and accepts whatever shit deal Trump cuts with the Russians.  Or,
  2. He stays as President and remains steadfast in a "fair" deal for Ukraine, and sees Trump sell him out vs. Russia and withdraw all U.S. support going forward.  His only play here would be to backstop U.S. support with EU support, I don't think there is enough to go around to make up the gap.  Or,
  3. He resigns under pressure from the Ukranian parliment.  Either through appointment or election he is replaced by a new personality, probably more malleable to Trump and more friendly.  Takes whatever deal he can get, or as Lindsay Graham says "He knows his place."  
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Posted
18 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Rhetorical question I know, but can anyone honestly articulate what we are standing up against?  

facts, decency.

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23 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Rhetorical question I know, but can anyone honestly articulate what we are standing up against?  

The unforgivable crime of not being told “thank you”

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3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Don't you fucking dare justify this shit.    You don't vote for a rapist, conman, felon, because we need change. you do it cause you are a piece of shit.   

full

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Posted
2 hours ago, immamac said:

I mean he should probably wear a fucking suit though especially if he knows it'll set off the clown show. 

I am sure they will make the Saudi leadership step out of their dresses right?  No, of course not.  This wasn't set off by wardrobe selection, this was theater,  entirely planned to be an asshole to him, to make him seem disrespectful in attempt to justify their cozying up to Putin and trying to create peace agreements like an 1800s European colonizer. 

If he wore a suit, they would have just latched on to whatever thinly veiled distraction they could manage.  You didn't thank us.  Well you didn't thank us enough.  You campaigned for the guy who beat our guy's ass and helped your country, how fucking dare you!   

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
7 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

How many years is it going to take before you realize you’re wasting your time? You’re operating at cross-purposes. If he was attempting to engage in honest, thoughtful, rational discourse then you might have a point. But he’s not. He’s intellectually dishonest. He’s an impulsive contrarian who gets off on the attention from being a fly in the ointment. And he’s not half as smart as he thinks he is if you haven’t caught on to that yet.

I put him on ignore back when he was parroting Trump’s “collusion delusion” catchphrase, that was around 8 years ago now. I’ve got him figured out. Nothing I’ve seen in the years of other people quoting him has revealed anything new to me. He is now exactly who I thought he was then.

He’s a troll. He adds nothing to the conversation other than disruption and distraction. By engaging with him you reward him and help him disrupt and distract. Are you surprised by anything he says? Or does he say exactly what you’d expect him to say because you’ve got him figured out and have for a long time?

Preach, brother.

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I missed this one, sorry if already posted.

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Upside down world strikes again. Water is dry.

How dare Z sit there and get screamed at in front of the press by the President and Vice President.
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5 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I missed this one, sorry if already posted.

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This is a bitch ass telling a warrior he should fear the bully with bone spurs. What absolute horse shit. 

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