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The first-quarter GDP drop, the first retreat of the U.S. economy in three years, was mainly caused by a surge in imports — which are subtracted from GDP — as businesses scrambled to bring in foreign goods ahead of Trump’s tariffs.

Imports are not subtracted from GDP. C, I, and G all have some amount of imports counted in them, so those imports are subtracted to remove them from C, I, and G so that they're simply not considered. Which is why imports is on that side of the equation.  

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The second quarter was over 2 months ago and was where there was a lot of dumb talk but the dumb action had yet to take hold. Frankly it still hasn’t fully taken hold but the signs are all there. 

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14 hours ago, Underdog said:

 


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This is such a perfect gif. As the republic burns, this is the best they could do. Just look pained and concerned. This is how you look when you don’t accept that the rules of engagement have changed and you just get bludgeoned by the opposition. 

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15 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is such a perfect gif. As the republic burns, this is the best they could do. Just look pained and concerned. This is how you look when you don’t accept that the rules of engagement have changed and you just get bludgeoned by the opposition. 

So this. I hate the theatrics like “The longest speech” BS. 
 

Actually do something vs just the theatrics. So annoying. 

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Performative protest has a place, but it can’t be the only thing 

What about just waiting around for Trump to show up in robes and a cloak and declare himself our supreme ruler, Palpatine style? Is that a thing? Because that’s the vibe I’m getting from the vast majority of elected democrats. That and “Please don’t put me in a camp.”
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It’s a pity that unions have debased themselves and aligned with TFG because I think this country needs a strong union person (man) to lead the country in resistance. That would include a national strike. But alas, there’s nobody out there. So we spiral deeper and deeper 

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1 hour ago, BrazilHorn said:

So this. I hate the theatrics like “The longest speech” BS. 
 

Actually do something vs just the theatrics. So annoying. 

This came up in another thread yesterday. Do what? Even armed revolutions require that the majority, and usually the vast majority, of the people oppose the regime (not to mention that the US military has 10 times more firepower than past regimes that fell to revolutions, they could put down a 5 million person march on Washington in an hour). If the people put the regime in power, it requires the majority of them realize they fucked up or that the regime went too far. The majority of the people in the US are maga or maga complacent. All you have to do is look at congress. No republican of note has turned on this regime. They have access to all sorts of polling and data and not only allow it to happen, they kiss his ass publicly like pathetic children at every corner. That means the people still actively support this, or are okay with this, so what does "do something" mean other than point out the problems and hope enough people see it to vote against it in 2026? It's not gonna happen either way. We're done for as a country.

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1 minute ago, 'stache said:

This came up in another thread yesterday. Do what? Even armed revolutions require that the majority, and usually the vast majority, of the people oppose the regime (not to mention that the US military has 10 times more firepower than past regimes that fell to revolutions, they could put down a 5 million person march on Washington in an hour). If the people put the regime in power, it requires the majority of them realize they fucked up or that the regime went too far. The majority of the people in the US are maga or maga complacent. All you have to do is look at congress. No republican of note has turned on this regime. They have access to all sorts of polling and data and not only allow it to happen, they kiss his ass publicly like pathetic children at every corner. That means the people still actively support this, or are okay with this, so what does "do something" mean other than point out the problems and hope enough people see it to vote against it in 2026? It's not gonna happen. We're done for as a country.

I guess the politicians in opposition (seemingly exclusively D but I hold out hope for some R one day) could be much more aggressive in tone and posture. Have one consistent message around the economy. Hammer that message home over and over again. 
 

You eat the elephant one bit at a time and what everyone has in common is the economy/inflation/layoffs etc. Hammer the shit out of that, win midterms, get majority and then get even more aggressive. 
 

Maybe that won’t work but I know funny tweets (as awesome as they are), long floor speeches and other theatrics won’t do a thing. 

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13 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

I guess the politicians in opposition (seemingly exclusively D but I hold out hope for some R one day) could be much more aggressive in tone and posture. Have one consistent message around the economy. Hammer that message home over and over again. 
 

You eat the elephant one bit at a time and what everyone has in common is the economy/inflation/layoffs etc. Hammer the shit out of that, win midterms, get majority and then get even more aggressive. 
 

Maybe that won’t work but I know funny tweets (as awesome as they are), long floor speeches and other theatrics won’t do a thing. 

Tarriffs are taxes. Tax cuts for the wealthy are upwards transfers of wealth. They are taking away Medicare. All of this is being screamed from the Dems and others. It's being hammered over and over. It's not working because the majority of American's are immune to facts or don't care. Newsom's tweets are more effective than all of that because it cleanly and concisely establishes that trump is a stupid piece of shit. We've established that the majority doesn't give a single shit about policy. Screaming it louder will not make a difference. They're doing it nonetheless and like you I can only hope that I'm wrong and it somehow breaks through by 2026 midterms.

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:


What about just waiting around for Trump to show up in robes and a cloak and declare himself our supreme ruler, Palpatine style? Is that a thing? Because that’s the vibe I’m getting from the vast majority of elected democrats. That and “Please don’t put me in a camp.”

I think the problem with Ds is they would take more action but they are waiting around on the American people to make it safe for them. 
 

Even I have to admit being slightly surprised at the overall lack of civil disorder this past summer. 
 

But therein lies the problem with the Ds. They are waiting around to be lead by the people instead of being the leaders they are supposed to be. 

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1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

It’s a pity that unions have debased themselves and aligned with TFG because I think this country needs a strong union person (man) to lead the country in resistance. That would include a national strike. But alas, there’s nobody out there. So we spiral deeper and deeper 

Refinery operators' contract is up on February 1st. United Steel Workers union will be asking for big pay raises since we got jack shit on the last contract. We'll see how this administration acts if there's a prolonged strike (what we expect).

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5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mark Texiera- native of Maryland, graduated from GT, played baseball all over, current full time resident of Greenwich Connecticut?
More fucking carpetbaggers. Jesus. That guy has so little connection to our state he makes Dan Goeb seem like Stephen F Austin. 

 

That’s Roy’s come up: MD-born, Virginia-bred. Undergrad and grad from UVA, investment banking before Texas law.

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27 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mark Texiera- native of Maryland, graduated from GT, played baseball all over, current full time resident of Greenwich Connecticut?
More fucking carpetbaggers. Jesus. That guy has so little connection to our state he makes Dan Goeb seem like Stephen F Austin. 

 

 

he does have Tex in his name.

-low information voter

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Donald Trump holds a printed-out visual representation reading Hyperion Data Centre over Manhattan, during a cabinet meeting

Donald Trump holds a printed-out visual representation reading Hyperion Data Centre over Manhattan, during a cabinet meeting at the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., August 26, 2025. / Jonathan Ernst/Reuters

 

 

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2 hours ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

One of the Democratic Senators could strap on a suicide vest and detonate it during a vote that couch fucker is presiding over

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9 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

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What is very clear is that the moment for a Nixon-style rebuke has passed, because unlike the 1970s, Republicans are all in with their President. A future Biden-style assumption of return to democratic norms, paired with minor legislative safeguards, already looks unrealistic and insufficient. That was tried from 2021-2024, and failed.

A deeper project of reconstruction will be needed, one likely tied to even more intense partisan division and ill-feeling. A new reconstruction to fix the Trump era will likely involve a degree of use of state power akin to Trump’s actions now, which automatically makes liberals uncomfortable.

If you are a democracy-loving American and what's happening now makes you uncomfortable.....start popping the Tums, because what we'll have to do if we ever get a chance to try to fix this will likely make you fucking puke.

Once doesn't cure a horrific case of cancer with almond milk and good thoughts.  You do it with brutal chemo and radiation that comes within a hairs-breadth of killing the patient.  We are dying right now.  And the only cure to what's killing us may also kill us.  That's just reality.

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4 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

So this. I hate the theatrics like “The longest speech” BS. 
 

Actually do something vs just the theatrics. So annoying. 

Should he stroll over to the WH and whoop the dotard’s ass?  I’m for it, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen. 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mark Texiera- native of Maryland, graduated from GT, played baseball all over, current full time resident of Greenwich Connecticut?
More fucking carpetbaggers. Jesus. That guy has so little connection to our state he makes Dan Goeb seem like Stephen F Austin. 

 

 

Some clarification - his kids go to Regents in Austin.  But yeah, an ex-MLBer fits certainly fits right in with the Cheeto crowd....

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1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

But therein lies the problem with the Ds. They are waiting around to be lead by the people instead of being the leaders they are supposed to be.

I don’t think I’ve heard a word from any of them since Johnson sent everyone off on an early vacation. I hope they enjoy their break, they really deserve it with all the hard work they put in by bending over to every one of dotard’s whims. 

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6 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Should he stroll over to the WH and whoop the dotard’s ass?  I’m for it, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen. 

I am dead serious when I say that some senior dem leader should say "Donald Trump is all talk.  He's not a man, he's a coward.  And I look forward to kicking his ass.  I'll be in Washington this Friday.  I'll be at the White House at noon.  If Trump isn't the gutless coward that we all know he is, he'll come out and meet me, and man up."  

Is that breathtakingly stupid and juvenile?  100%.  Is that sort of stunt exactly where we are?  Also yes, 100%.  

Someone needs to challenge DOTARD to a fight, over and over, to prove that he's a cowardly pussy.  Oh, and if the fight happens....yeah, most anyone will kick that tub of goo's ass.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

I am dead serious when I say that some senior dem leader should say "Donald Trump is all talk.  He's not a man, he's a coward.  And I look forward to kicking his ass.  I'll be in Washington this Friday.  I'll be at the White House at noon.  If Trump isn't the gutless coward that we all know he is, he'll come out and meet me, and man up."  

Is that breathtakingly stupid and juvenile?  100%.  Is that sort of stunt exactly where we are?  Also yes, 100%.  

Someone needs to challenge DOTARD to a fight, over and over, to prove that he's a cowardly pussy.  Oh, and if the fight happens....yeah, most anyone will kick that tub of goo's ass.

I’m surprised Newsom hasn’t done that yet. 

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6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

and it'll likely cost half over again as much to tear down and rehab the sensitive area they built over.

Can be torn down for not a lot of money. Army and FEMA do this all the time, well without the cages and alligators. They will transport it to another site and use it there. Or store is for FEMA (who paid for a lot of it) to house the poors in Appalachia after the next floods/snow storm/etc. 

And you think they care about the environmental impact? Plus you going to get Florida red necks to go work out there? That was the Hispanic jobs. 

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28 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Should he stroll over to the WH and whoop the dotard’s ass?  I’m for it, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen. 

No but I am unsure how yapping for a lot of hours and accomplishing nothing is any different than a hypothetical fight with the big orange.

Just think this type of thing does zero. Also once you do it, then what? Break your own record for yapping? 

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3 hours ago, 'stache said:

This came up in another thread yesterday. Do what? Even armed revolutions require that the majority, and usually the vast majority, of the people oppose the regime (not to mention that the US military has 10 times more firepower than past regimes that fell to revolutions, they could put down a 5 million person march on Washington in an hour). If the people put the regime in power, it requires the majority of them realize they fucked up or that the regime went too far. The majority of the people in the US are maga or maga complacent. All you have to do is look at congress. No republican of note has turned on this regime. They have access to all sorts of polling and data and not only allow it to happen, they kiss his ass publicly like pathetic children at every corner. That means the people still actively support this, or are okay with this, so what does "do something" mean other than point out the problems and hope enough people see it to vote against it in 2026? It's not gonna happen either way. We're done for as a country.

Be willing to get arrested. Strike. Tell law enforcement to fuck right off. Point and laugh. Mock. Shame. 

There are a lot of things that can be done short of armed revolution.

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16 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Can be torn down for not a lot of money. Army and FEMA do this all the time, well without the cages and alligators. They will transport it to another site and use it there. Or store is for FEMA (who paid for a lot of it) to house the poors in Appalachia after the next floods/snow storm/etc. 

And you think they care about the environmental impact? Plus you going to get Florida red necks to go work out there? That was the Hispanic jobs. 

maybe if you were running the show, sure. don't think that the removal will be anything short of the most expensive means and methods possible while padding contractors' and politicians' accounts along the way.

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Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

maybe if you were running the show, sure. don't think that the removal will be anything short of the most expensive means and methods possible while padding contractors' and politicians' accounts along the way.

Watch them move it to the Shenadoah and call it a homeless treatment center. 



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