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I'm not sure most people, and especially dotard, know what it takes to make a top secret aircraft (or anything, for that matter). The AF1(s) Boeing are working on require a level of scrutiny only outdone by NASA. I've known designers that work at Lockheed Martin who were married and working on different parts of the F35 and could not talk to each other about what they were working on. They get to the know the extent of their part and that is it. There's a reason these planes last as long as they do. They are literally the most exceptional vehicles on the planet. They're made to basically never fail. That takes a lot of effort and time and extreme scrutiny. Glad they won't be ready for this POS

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9 minutes ago, C-Man said:

And you have to bet he didn't even think of the shit they'll have to do to it to make it AF1 capable. We're talking 10s of millions of dollars, if not more. I'm sure if it was up to him, he'd just take it as-is and not worry about any security issues/flaws. He's that fucking stupid.

I'm sure the slimeball has thought about how to profit bigly from the retrofit. He's certainly got some epic graft planned for that project and planning on selling the classified technology in the plane after it's conveyed to his library. 

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45 minutes ago, royiv said:

Things are not okay and this is the sort of bullshit that reflects poorly on the entire legal profession. Why are we not hearing from lawyers up in arms that their profession is being trashed by bad actors all over the place in this regime? Instead we see firms bending the knee. 

A lot of us are up in arms about the whole country being trashed by bad actors all over the place in this regime. And we post about it here, in this very thread even. 

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1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

This dude is an absolute dipshit. Imagine how gotdamned stupid you have to be to worship this cumstain.

 

There's no chance trump has any idea how to define "neurotic." I'd wager he thinks it has something to do with thinking about porn. 

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35 minutes ago, 'stache said:

In Oklahoma the governor or a member of the state legislature can ask the AG for an opinion which is not binding but informative and persuasive. Is there a similar procedure at the fed level? Reminds me of when Bush got a memo that torture was totally cool and legal. Just asking procedurally. Substantively it doesn’t matter it’s all just absurdity and corruption. 

As I said, the White House counsel advises the President directly, while the OLC advises the executive branch more generally, and neutrally, and its advice is more or less binding on the entire branch.

So, analagous to your scenario, I think OLC would generate binding guidance based on advocacy and a request from White House counsel.

The torture memos were a product of OLC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_Memos  Apparently drafted in response to requests from CIA.

It's all the DOJ, so to some degree or other answerable to the AG and in turn the President, but previously, the division of responsibility at least maintained an illusion of sanity, which is now gone.

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18 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

A lot of us are up in arms about the whole country being trashed by bad actors all over the place in this regime. And we post about it here, in this very thread even. 

You’re right, posting on Surly is an effective form of resistance. What starts here changes the world and all that. 

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3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

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The livery will be much tackier than that. Not nearly enough gold, MAGA or 45-47.

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1 minute ago, royiv said:

You’re right, posting on Surly is an effective form of resistance. What starts here changes the world and all that. 

"What's that?"

"You say what starts here changes absolutely nothing?"

"Oh."

"Ah well, nevertheless."

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Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

why are you here then?

It’s a good place to let off steam, keep up with current events and commiserate with a community. 

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3 minutes ago, royiv said:

You’re right, posting on Surly is an effective form of resistance. What starts here changes the world and all that. 

This is what is frustrating for me as both a moderator and the owner. This place doesn't do shit except let a discussion happen. I would be fine if people used this place to organize legal activities to protest or otherwise resist, but just typing insane shit and wishing death etc is not only lame, but problematic 

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On 5/11/2025 at 3:50 PM, ABZ said:

I was thinking the chip, or "mark" if you will, could be provided by a new government organization called the Bureau of European Ancestry Substantiation and Tracking

How long  before they start using DNA to test a person's Aryan ties?  How many marriages would that fuck up with paternity tests?  

On 5/11/2025 at 6:34 PM, Derka said:

realistically, what does this mean?

 

this guy's need to take even correct words like right and blow them up into superwords or invent new definitions for words he has co-opted.  Bigly and rightful are just two examples.  

On 5/12/2025 at 9:54 AM, Brian Fantana said:

It's extremely unlikely that the Qatari plane ever becomes a true AF1...like @956 Worldwide said there is basically no way to thoroughly debug that plane. The new planes, should they actually be delivered when Boeing says they will, he will use.

There's no need to debug it.  Trump or someone is going to tell them what they want to hear anyway. 

On 5/12/2025 at 9:54 AM, HornPhD said:

Anyone who would pay $120k would certainly pay $150. 

tree-fiddy, and not a dime less!

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2 hours ago, royiv said:

Things are not okay and this is the sort of bullshit that reflects poorly on the entire legal profession. Why are we not hearing from lawyers up in arms that their profession is being trashed by bad actors all over the place in this regime? Instead we see firms bending the knee. 

I understand the frustration but I feel a bit the opposite these days on the legal profession.  The lawyers fighting for us are about the last line of defense we have.  Congress isn't doing it.  Most of us aren't doing anything.  Some of us are rightly scared out of our wits.  If they forcefully come for me I'm not one to respond with violence believe it or not.  I don't own a gun.  But there are lawyers being detained for fighting for their clients now.  I do contribute an honestly small amount to the Oregon ACLU with my bi-weekly paychecks these days. That and org called Oregon Wild who fight in the courts for things I care about (the main reason I moved to Oregon--its natural beauty).  Its not much but I'm trying to help where I can.

And I get the distinct impression the majority of Surly lawyers hate what is happening right now.  And I have seen plenty online vouching the same.  I don't have links and I will admit that my eyes at times glaze over with the terms I don't comprehend.  But I know they are out there doing their best to fight.

But I do get and empathize with the frustration of what is happening to our country.  I think Trump even being allowed to run a second time reflected poorly on all of us as a nation.  Not just one profession.  Just my thoughts.

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13 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

This is pretty awful.  I watched his video on it here (the part we'd be interested in starts about 7 minutes in):



Questions about liking Trump.  Questions about "supporting Hamas."  Questions that would seem to violate every free speech principle I was raised to believe in.  Detained for two hours until he asked if he was being detained.  Not to intimidate the rich streamer who can afford to fight it.  But to intimidate the rest of us who cannot.

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2 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

There's no chance trump has any idea how to define "neurotic." I'd wager he thinks it has something to do with thinking about porn. 

if that's the case then i'm the most neurotic mothefucker in the galaxy...

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2 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

There's no chance trump has any idea how to define "neurotic." I'd wager he thinks it has something to do with thinking about porn. 

Sometimes he gives himself the creeps.

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3 hours ago, royiv said:

Things are not okay and this is the sort of bullshit that reflects poorly on the entire legal profession. Why are we not hearing from lawyers up in arms that their profession is being trashed by bad actors all over the place in this regime? Instead we see firms bending the knee. 

how many firms are there in America?

How many biglaw firms have bent the knee?

How many big law firms have lost partners and associates and clients because of bending the knee?

Your assumption that nobody is up in arms is simply false. 

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15 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

how many firms are there in America?

How many biglaw firms have bent the knee?

How many big law firms have lost partners and associates and clients because of bending the knee?

Your assumption that nobody is up in arms is simply false. 

Lol. The legal profession is in the garbage and you guys just keep telling us that you’re up in arms.

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13 minutes ago, royiv said:

Lol. The legal profession is in the garbage and you guys just keep telling us that you’re up in arms.

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Don't worry, the Strafford County Bar Association in New Hampshire is in the process of having Bondi removed as Attorney General, because that's how it works. 

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1 minute ago, TheRealRonWeaver? said:


I’m writing a sternly worded letter outlining our grievances.

Who are you going to bill for that?

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Just now, gernblansten said:

Don't worry, the Strafford County Bar Association in New Hampshire is in the process of having Bondi removed as Attorney General, because that's how it works. 

You are an insufferable prick.

Posted
16 minutes ago, royiv said:

Lol. The legal profession is in the garbage and you guys just keep telling us that you’re up in arms.

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I personally intend to piss on a spark plug.

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I knew this would be coming as soon as Trump tweeted about Rose a while back.   MLB is deathly afraid of their anti-trust exemption being overturned, thus bend the knee.

Trump loves rapist.

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6 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

I knew this would be coming as soon as Trump tweeted about Rose a while back.   MLB is deathly afraid of their anti-trust exemption being overturned, thus bend the knee.

Trump loves rapist.

BBWA can still say “fuck him”. Won’t surprise me if they do. 

Posted
Just now, Ted Lange said:

BBWA doesnt vote on this.   ERAs committee does

Ahh yea the 15 year thing regardless of on ballot or not. 
 

Well here’s to you ERAs committee

Posted
52 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

BBWA doesnt vote on this.   ERAs committee does

 

dec 2027 is the earliest discussion on this 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

It’s insulting how dumb they think their voters are 

Betting on that stupidity is what won them the white house 

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On 5/12/2025 at 10:26 AM, Willfully Horn said:

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The market’s reaction to turnip’s spasmodic tariff decisions has belied the claim the president has little effect on the stock market.

I'm late returning to the thread, so forgive me for the late response. There's a lot of money to be made in a rollercoaster market. I'm sure the usual suspects are doing quite well.

I find the focus on amount of wealth lost on a drop as being too narrow. Sadly, that's the focus of MSM. 

Insider trading, I'm guessing, should be the story. It happened before when Trump was president and actually had a few humans working around him. How much is a tip about a 100% tarriff being levied worth, Mr. Futures Marketer? Same with a heads up about withdrawing tarriffs. I have no financials training, but it appears sort of obvious to me. 

Be nice if some hotshot college-boy journalists could dig into such a meaty story and line everything out for me. Actually, there likely is a solid reporter looking into this. He'll get published and we'll hear the bright pebble tapping downwards into the rocky void of Idiot World.

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16 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

"Money Account" might be what breaks me.

Brought to you by the folks who will soon turn all educational institutions into The Donald Trump Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Who Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too.

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38 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I'm late returning to the thread, so forgive me for the late response. There's a lot of money to be made in a rollercoaster market. I'm sure the usual suspects are doing quite well.

I find the focus on amount of wealth lost on a drop as being too narrow. Sadly, that's the focus of MSM. 

Insider trading, I'm guessing, should be the story. It happened before when Trump was president and actually had a few humans working around him. How much is a tip about a 100% tarriff being levied worth, Mr. Futures Marketer? Same with a heads up about withdrawing tarriffs. I have no financials training, but it appears sort of obvious to me. 

Be nice if some hotshot college-boy journalists could dig into such a meaty story and line everything out for me. Actually, there likely is a solid reporter looking into this. He'll get published and we'll hear the bright pebble tapping downwards into the rocky void of Idiot World.

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Mr Bojangles ran 100 yards backwards in 13.5 seconds in 1922. It was a Guinness recognized world record that stood for 55 years. 

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1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

I knew this would be coming as soon as Trump tweeted about Rose a while back.   MLB is deathly afraid of their anti-trust exemption being overturned, thus bend the knee.

Trump loves rapist.

A couple of months ago my mother randomly ranted about how unfair it is that Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame.  I was taken aback, as I didn't know anyone had thought about Pete Rose in years.  Finding out it's a MAGA thing makes SO MUCH sense now.

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6 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

A couple of months ago my mother randomly ranted about how unfair it is that Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame.  I was taken aback, as I didn't know anyone had thought about Pete Rose in years.  Finding out it's a MAGA thing makes SO MUCH sense now.

Pete Rose: by all accounts, an epic asshole, treated other people like shit, broke one of the foundational rules of integrity of the game, almost certainly committed statutory rape.....shit, a list of accomplishments like that makes him a shoo-in for the MAGA Medal of Honor.

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