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12 hours ago, Tuco said:


And typing is much faster. And more legible. And nobody hand writes business letters and rarely personal ones. Shit gets outdated and fuck any schooling system that doesn’t adjust, freeing up time to teach new skills that didn’t exist when I was a kid.

It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory. Arts integrated curricula were included with this as well. Perhaps one can find other newer methods that would perform likewise, but handing children a piece of paper and a pencil is a lot cheaper so I have no objections to it.

Plus, when the power grid fails and our infrastructure collapses, we'll all be educating the children in tents and encampments anyway.

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It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory. Arts integrated curricula were included with this as well. Perhaps one can find other newer methods that would perform likewise, but handing children a piece of paper and a pencil is a lot cheaper so I have no objections to it.
Plus, when the power grid fails and our infrastructure collapses, we'll all be educating the children in tents and encampments anyway.

They still teach hand writing (printing), they just aren’t teaching the second, more formal, script system the west has. I know Montessori schools will work the eye-hand coordination thing before kids can even spell. And it’s not like learning cursive was a light lift; I’m guessing we dedicated 20% of class time, and probably 40% of student effort, of 3rd grade for it. And as someone with shitty eye-hand coordination, it was 95% of my school angst. Fucking hand cramps while failing to get that shit legible.
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2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory. Arts integrated curricula were included with this as well. Perhaps one can find other newer methods that would perform likewise, but handing children a piece of paper and a pencil is a lot cheaper so I have no objections to it.

Plus, when the power grid fails and our infrastructure collapses, we'll all be educating the children in tents and encampments anyway.

 

21 minutes ago, Tuco said:


They still teach hand writing (printing), they just aren’t teaching the second, more formal, script system the west has. I know Montessori schools will work the eye-hand coordination thing before kids can even spell. And it’s not like learning cursive was a light lift; I’m guessing we dedicated 20% of class time, and probably 40% of student effort, of 3rd grade for it. And as someone with shitty eye-hand coordination, it was 95% of my school angst. Fucking hand cramps while failing to get that shit legible.

Two beefs my parents had with my early education were a lack of practice of penmanship (they had Palmer penmanship with a lot of drawing of loops) and math tables.  So, they forced those two things on me outside of school.  As a small child, I pretty much detested practicing anything, but I did those things at their insistence and was probably better off for it.

Weirdly, having to learn a system of printing in drafting/mechanical drawing in my teens transformed my handwriting.

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2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory.

in undergrad and law school I would always make test outlines, and then re-copy them by writing by hand as I spoke the words I was writing.   That way my memory would be provoked by hearing, seeing and using motor skills.

Which was just a workaround for my shitty memory.

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35 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

in undergrad and law school I would always make test outlines, and then re-copy them by writing by hand as I spoke the words I was writing.   That way my memory would be provoked by hearing, seeing and using motor skills.

Which was just a workaround for my shitty memory.

That’s similar to the iterative strategy I developed for myself in undergrad, where I recopied and progressively condensed my notes until all information/concepts fit on an index card or two. The process could also include speaking the notes aloud or drawing small symbols/pictures/flow charts, whatever was needed to get what I needed to stick in my brain. 

It’s a good coping strategy for those of us who suffer from simple minds and addled brains.

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

in undergrad and law school I would always make test outlines, and then re-copy them by writing by hand as I spoke the words I was writing.   That way my memory would be provoked by hearing, seeing and using motor skills.

Which was just a workaround for my shitty memory.

See first year, I actually made outlines, thinking that the process of doing it would reinforce and aid retention.  Others obtained outlines from various sources, including me.

What I failed to do, though, was sit there and read and re-read the goddamn things over and over and over and over again for at least a day.  I hate rote memorization, but this is one way to accompiish it.

So, making my own outlines got me thoroughly meadoker grades in the first year of law school. But when I stopped making my own outlines, used others, but did the obsessive re-reading thing, I made law review grades for the rest of my tenure.

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52 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

It’s a good coping strategy for those of us who suffer from simple minds and addled brains.


Surly:

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

It’s a good coping strategy for those of us who suffer from simple minds and addled brains.

New Surly motto?

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3 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory. Arts integrated curricula were included with this as well. Perhaps one can find other newer methods that would perform likewise, but handing children a piece of paper and a pencil is a lot cheaper so I have no objections to it.

Plus, when the power grid fails and our infrastructure collapses, we'll all be educating the children in tents and encampments anyway.

Also helps with dyslexia from what I understand.   My kiddos who all have dyslexia to varying degrees did fine with cursive and learned it rather quickly when I taught it to them over a week one summer.   As a person with dysgraphia, my shitty handwriting transcends all formats and language, even non written forms.  

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1 hour ago, Nivek said:

As a person with dysgraphia, my shitty handwriting transcends all formats and language, even non written forms. 

Holy shit! I did not know that such a thing existed. My handwriting has always been almost illegible, to the point where I often cannot read my own handwriting. No amount of practice at penmanship in school would change that.  I was getting poor grades in penmanship as a kid - and when our bar exam was handwritten over three days, I always began the exam by explaining I moved around the country a lot when they used phonetics for spelling, and so ignore the fact that I look like a functional illiterate because I promised to use spellcheck on my briefs.

My mom had beautiful handwriting and was into calligraphy. Which gives you an idea of how much she appreciated my handwriting.

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50 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Holy shit! I did not know that such a thing existed. My handwriting has always been almost illegible, to the point where I often cannot read my own handwriting. No amount of practice at penmanship in school would change that.  I was getting poor grades in penmanship as a kid - and when our bar exam was handwritten over three days, I always began the exam by explaining I moved around the country a lot when they used phonetics for spelling, and so ignore the fact that I look like a functional illiterate because I promised to use spellcheck on my briefs.

My mom had beautiful handwriting and was into calligraphy. Which gives you an idea of how much she appreciated my handwriting.

Similar experience my fellow Floridian educated brother.  I didn't learn about it until I was a man.  

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2 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Similar experience my fellow Floridian educated brother.  I didn't learn about it until I was a man.  

So - at 50?

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Holy shit! I did not know that such a thing existed. My handwriting has always been almost illegible, to the point where I often cannot read my own handwriting. No amount of practice at penmanship in school would change that.  I was getting poor grades in penmanship as a kid - and when our bar exam was handwritten over three days, I always began the exam by explaining I moved around the country a lot when they used phonetics for spelling, and so ignore the fact that I look like a functional illiterate because I promised to use spellcheck on my briefs.

My mom had beautiful handwriting and was into calligraphy. Which gives you an idea of how much she appreciated my handwriting.

My handwriting is so bad I was almost barred from writing checks for our company. lol. 

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fucking cursive was stupid then and it's fucking stupid now

My saintly grandmother used to write lengthy family letters with her IBM Selectric typewriter with the cursive font ball. I had sever framed, they are precious heirlooms.
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Holy shit! I did not know that such a thing existed. My handwriting has always been almost illegible, to the point where I often cannot read my own handwriting. No amount of practice at penmanship in school would change that.  I was getting poor grades in penmanship as a kid - and when our bar exam was handwritten over three days, I always began the exam by explaining I moved around the country a lot when they used phonetics for spelling, and so ignore the fact that I look like a functional illiterate because I promised to use spellcheck on my briefs.
My mom had beautiful handwriting and was into calligraphy. Which gives you an idea of how much she appreciated my handwriting.

For me I think the handwriting thing came down to just lack of finger dexterity. Although, I do flip letters and shapes. Senior year I did an art project that included an outline of Nebraska. When I was done my friend asked if I had flipped the state to represent that it was backwards. I had spent a few hours on the thing and didn’t realize I put the panhandle in the east. I’m not sure what you call that. “Stupid “ maybe.

Speaking of which, I wonder how much of the cursive nostalgia is from folks who struggled at every other subject.
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I said it before years ago describing dairy farms- Trump sign out front, immigrants milking cows in the back.

I'd sometimes wonder if there was something they knew that I didn't, cuz the only other likely explanation was an aggressive strain of malicious stupidity infecting a demographic that prided themselves on "common sense". 

Occam's Razor

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5 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

“I want all those other brown people who don’t help my financial condition to be arrested and have a horrible time, but I’m upset that they are going to arrest the brown people that make me money.”

I hope he loses his dairy operation and has to suck dicks under the overpass in Montpelier for food. 

 

I spent close to a week in Montpelier once, so this hits close to home.   Lovely town.

 

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The crew that mows my lawn didn’t show up last week. For a couple of days, I was concerned they were gone.

They showed up yesterday. I mean it would be a pain in the ass to find a new crew.

I can’t fathom the stupidity of someone who has a farm’s and/or dairy’s worth of work to do every day, not realizing their entire labor force is undocumented, and voting for the candidate that is going to cause your labor force to disappear on any given day. It’s immeasurably stupid.

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13 minutes ago, GenXer said:

I can’t fathom the stupidity of someone who has a farm’s and/or dairy’s worth of work to do every day, not realizing their entire labor force is undocumented, and voting for the candidate that is going to cause your labor force to disappear on any given day. It’s immeasurably stupid.

Come on, friend, you haven't even tried. Sure we can measure it. The question is, how?

But first, are we talking one sliding scale from zero possible stupidity to maximum, or are there multiple axes for like, say, a Juggalo Amway Maga Autotuned Speakerphone-in-Restaurant Spam-clicking Flat-Earther?

Do we use some Godless French decimal system, or quirky medieval soup of twelves, eights, and body parts?

In honor of the departed milking crew, maybe we should throw in some intricate wheel-within-wheel calculations.

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The third story is that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has denied North Carolina’s request that it honor a commitment made by President Joe Biden to pay for 100% of the costs for removal of debris after Hurricane Helene devastated the western part of the state in September 2024.

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Trump suggested he would respond more effectively to voters in North Carolina, and two of the hardest-hit counties there, Avery and Haywood, backed him in 2024 by margins of 75.7% and 61.8%, respectively, similar to those it had given him in 2016 and 2020.

Once in office, though, Trump began to talk of eliminating FEMA. Now the White House has told North Carolina residents they’re on their own as they try to dig out from Hurricane Helene. 

That's a real shame.

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On 5/20/2025 at 2:14 PM, Eskimohorn said:

Katrina helped expose the Bush administration

Five years too late for those of us who knew he was an incompetent moron back in 2000. 

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14 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

I said it before years ago describing dairy farms- Trump sign out front, immigrants milking cows in the back.

I'd sometimes wonder if there was something they knew that I didn't, cuz the only other likely explanation was an aggressive strain of malicious stupidity infecting a demographic that prided themselves on "common sense". 

Occam's Razor

In the summer of 1995 I was in the middle of the Wisconsin country, around a place called Cataract, which was nothing but dairy farms and wheat fields. I knocked on this door of an old, white house, with wood siding that desperately needed a paint job, and packed inside were about 50+ of the darkest-skinned Latin Americans I've ever seen. None of them spoke a word of English.

I'll never forget it. 

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In the summer of 1995 I was in the middle of the Wisconsin country, around a place called Cataract, which was nothing but dairy farms and wheat fields. I knocked on this door of an old, white house, with wood siding that desperately needed a paint job, and packed inside were about 50+ of the darkest-skinned Latin Americans I've ever seen. None of them spoke a word of English.
I'll never forget it. 

To be fair, my people love beer and cheese as much as anyone.
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17 hours ago, Tuco said:

Speaking of which, I wonder how much of the cursive nostalgia is from folks who struggled at every other subject.

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Not here, but I do have empathy for those who found it a source of anxiety and angst. I grew up in a multi-generational home and it was considered by those elders as one of the marks of a good student, ergo, it was done.

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16 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Come on, friend, you haven't even tried. Sure we can measure it. The question is, how?

But first, are we talking one sliding scale from zero possible stupidity to maximum, or are there multiple axes for like, say, a Juggalo Amway Maga Autotuned Speakerphone-in-Restaurant Spam-clicking Flat-Earther?

Do we use some Godless French decimal system, or quirky medieval soup of twelves, eights, and body parts?

In honor of the departed milking crew, maybe we should throw in some intricate wheel-within-wheel calculations.

 

 

Which ever axis stupidity is on will have to use a logarithmic scale.

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I spent close to a week in Montpelier once, so this hits close to home.   Lovely town.
 

How were the dicks, asking for a poster.
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It's been a few since I've reviewed this thread, it never fails to deliver. Just wanted to touch on a few of the posts from the past few

On 5/20/2025 at 8:43 AM, Pancho said:

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Adios Mofo

 

 

On 5/21/2025 at 3:57 PM, Mittens said:

 

 

Man, this guy can get fucked. Seriously, that he thinks it's Trump's guys and not Trump? He's beyond help, so fuck him.

 

On 5/23/2025 at 7:08 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

‘We Voted for Trump to Fix the Border. Now We’re Milking Cows Alone at 4 A.M.’ – Vermont Farmers Face Harsh Reality as ICE Raids Hit Home

 

https://thesarkariform.com/we-voted-for-trump-to-fix-the-border-now-were-milking-cows-alone-at-4-a-m-vermont-farmers-face-harsh-reality-as-ice-raids-hit-home/

 

 

 

 

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Despite political rhetoric, the reality on the ground is clear: the dairy industry depends on these laborers — many of whom work 12-hour days starting at 4 a.m., like “Chepe,” an undocumented worker and father of three who has become an advocate with Migrant Justice.

“I used to feel safer here,” said Chepe, who hasn’t seen his children in eight years. “But since Trump came back, it feels like we’re going back to the dark ages.”

Still, amid fear, a remarkable show of unity is growing. Chepe now helps lead protests and organizes for better protections, while Vermont’s farming families — many of them Trump voters — are voicing concern not just for their livelihoods, but for the wellbeing of the workers they’ve come to rely on.

Legal advocates, like Brett Stokes of the Vermont Law and Graduate School, are stepping in to defend the detained workers, who were quickly funneled through deportation proceedings. “They pay taxes. They do essential work. They’re part of our communities,” Stokes said.

The growing awareness has also reignited calls for immigration reform, especially the lack of a visa program for year-round dairy work. Unlike Vermont’s apple or berry farms, which can hire seasonal workers legally, dairy farms have no such option.

“Replacing your whole crew every few months isn’t realistic,” said Machia. “It takes time to train people, and locals just don’t want to do this work anymore.”

Even though Machia says he would still vote for Trump, the recent crackdown has prompted a deeper reckoning within his community — and perhaps, unexpectedly, a new sense of appreciation for those they once took for granted.

In a state where farms rely on undocumented hands, Vermont is waking up to an inescapable truth: immigrant labor isn’t just a political talking point — it’s the force that keeps the barns running and the milk flowing. And now, with fear in the air, farmers and migrant workers alike are standing up — together.

 

 

This hits close to home, well my second home - 65 miles as the crow flies.

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Man, I like a lot of the people up there, but when they are dumb they can be REALLY dumb. I mean reading this guys comments:

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Machia voted for Trump, drawn by promises of border control and national security. “We didn’t want drugs or gangbangers,”

 

DUDE! Do you see that dark line on the map? The one 8 miles north of your town? THAT'S FUCKING CANADA!!! And in case you missed it:

 

On 5/23/2025 at 9:37 PM, GenXer said:

Sheldon VT: population 2,136

A hot bed of gangbanger activity.

Dustin Machia: one stupid motherfucker.

Time for bed, dustin. You gots milking to do at 4 AM. Bootstraps, bitch.

 

FUCKING THIS!!!! @ChuckNorrisActionJeans said know your employees that work for you - this guy doesn't even know where he lives. Vermont is one of the smallest states in the country by population (2nd to Wyoming). It's smaller than 25 CITIES. Gangbangers? Get fucking real.

Christ.

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On 5/23/2025 at 8:13 PM, topochico said:

When are we going to start investigating and charging all of these farmers for systematically employing undocumented workers?

They’ll get to them right after the builders and chicken and hog processors 

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On 5/23/2025 at 8:59 PM, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

JFC get to know the people who are adding value to your operation. Your employees. Quit being a racist twat and acting like you have sub-human slaves

They do know them that’s the thing. They truly thought this regime would not go after “the good ones”

if you know anyone in Texas with a working ranch it’s the same thing. All the cowboys are immigrants. You can’t get young white or black kids to fix fences, run cattle, or even shred a pasture. Hell you can’t get the immigrants’ kids to do it. It’s bonkers.

I guess there’s still a few FFA kids raising show calves pigs and goats, but not enough to keep a ranch afloat

That’s one of the reasons Yellowstone is so fucking unbelievable to me. 

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