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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Hot take: debate is an inferior, pre-literate way to synthesize information and decide between alternatives that has been filtered through 19th century entertainment culture. Winning a debate is not the same thing as presenting the best position. 
 

Jordan Peterson is fascinating to me. His whole schtick was telling boys how to pull their shit together and learn to function and then he very publicly crashed out in a spectacular way. I thought that would be the end of him. 

Peterson is washed up. Low view counts compared to before he joined Daily Wire. But he got them to pay him while his stock was high. The grift is over.

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Just now, chainsaw said:

Peterson is washed up. Low view counts compared to before he joined Daily Wire. But he got them to pay him while his stock was high. The grift is over.

The best part is he's such a dumbass he can't even defeat a bunch of incredibly annoying reddit atheists. His only tactic is to try his best to never be pinned down on any issue. He wouldn't even admit he was a Christian even though anyone who has even tangentially followed him at all would know that.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Bevo said:

 

I think you all overestimate human critical thinking. 90% of people pre-industrial revolution believed all sorts of stupid shit. Today, we have a much higher base knowledge but 90% of people still believe all sorts of stupid shit. Go backward or forward 1000 years and there will still be a giant idiocracy.

I bet those people, at a minimum, didn't fall en masse for "they're eating the dogs" or "those vaccines that elimiated polio and small pox were actually bad for you."

Edit to point out i'm extrapolating into post industrial revolution re vaccines.

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I think you all overestimate human critical thinking. 90% of people pre-industrial revolution believed all sorts of stupid shit. Today, we have a much higher base knowledge but 90% of people still believe all sorts of stupid shit. Go backward or forward 1000 years and there will still be a giant idiocracy.

Correct. We have always had a giant moron class. It is the nature of humanity.
However, they also mostly knew that they were morons. What has changed is that we have now weaponized stupidity, and they are now convinced that their idiocy is BETTER than intelligence. The dumber shit is? Well, that’s proof of how much better they really are.
That’s what’s killing us: weaponized stupidity.
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30 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

The best part is he's such a dumbass he can't even defeat a bunch of incredibly annoying reddit atheists. His only tactic is to try his best to never be pinned down on any issue. He wouldn't even admit he was a Christian even though anyone who has even tangentially followed him at all would know that.

and then the one time he pinned himself down to an issue it was, “if you believe something it means you’re willing to die for it”, which of course was a battle he lost in embarrassing fashion.

people forget, but like 5-6 years ago he was nowhere near this bad. some time prior to that he even had a lot of useful shit to share with impressionable young men. his descension into this hypomanic, easily agitated idiot needs to be studied. his regression makes joe rogan’s regression look minor.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Derka said:

and then the one time he pinned himself down to an issue it was, “if you believe something it means you’re willing to die for it.” people forget, but like 5-6 years ago he was nowhere near this bad. some time prior to that he even had a lot of useful shit to share with impressionable young men. his descension into this hypomanic, easily agitated, idiot needs to be studied. his regression makes joe rogan’s regression look minor.

He made his bones on telling impressionable, directionless young men pretty obvious things. I have no issue with any of his self help stuff, even though it's honestly really basic stuff, it's not harmful.

He just thinks he's way smarter than he is and has incredibly thin skin. Not a great combo for someone that suddenly gets famous.

e: grammar

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10 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I bet those people, at a minimum, didn't fall en masse for "they're eating the dogs" or "those vaccines that elimiated polio and small pox were actually bad for you."

Edit to point out i'm extrapolating into post industrial revolution re vaccines.

witches and sorcerers

earth-centric view of the universe

diseases caused by divine punishment and demons

natural disasters as divine punishment

female orgasms were bad and considered a mental condition

 

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12 hours ago, rage-a-holic said:

Oh for fuck's sake, he sounds just like a lot of liberals. You guys get so bloated sniffing farts in your CR echobubble that you just assume everyone on your side of the fence must be educated and debate team captains.

this is the perfect thread for this, because you're using Yelling With Confidence to cover up facts you don't like.  

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just go back to banging two rocks together.   there's 100s of millions of you.  you won't be lonely.

 

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That graph tells half the story.

It's not just that they're appealing to stupid people (they are, and the stupid people are responding as expected)

It's also that these counties have driven out the people who have (or tried to get) college degrees. They're driven out because the counties have nothing going on economically: goodbye to that rural clinic and sayonara to that tiny, underfunded, private university. They're also driven out by red state policies that are openly hostile to women, to people of color, to queer people, to the irreligious, and even to people who are religious but not Protestant. You only have one life to live, so why would anyone who values education spend it in a podunk town with nothing going on?

The part of the story I'm not sure the graph fully captures is that people who have attended college probably haven't increased their affinity for the democratic party. I don't think the people have "moved further left" it's just that the existing left-of-center people have been forced to relocate to population centers where all the jobs and amenities are.

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Back when i would waste time talking to fucktards i tried to explain the peer review process and scientific method to someone. This person was confused about how science is real when its always changing.....

Fuck even typing this makes me lose hope in humanity.  

Tl/not typig it out; i wasted an hour of my life talking to that paint chip eater.

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