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6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

We’ll call it a win if he doesn’t say anything inappropriate or creepy about a young victim. 

depends on if anyone brings up Epstein

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No doubt he will blame everything on Biden.   “If Biden wasn’t so corrupt, these yokels wouldve accepted money for a warning system in 2022!  Now that I’m here they can accept federal money, which we will give to them bigly, if they invest in TrumpCoin$”

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What other plays do they have?

1 - Act of God. Nothing could be done.
2 - Blame Democrats. In Texas.
3 - Blame "those people" wink, wink because Obama's tan suit blah blah blah

I'm thinking about going to CafePress and designing a shirt that says something like:

DEI = hard 'r'

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4 hours ago, South Austin said:

Why should my tax dollars as Texas resident pay for some awful nature shit that happens in Florida or Kentucky?   

Just for the sake of elabotion of the concept, you can make much better state arguments, such as 

Better knowing the nature of local disasters 

Better knowing how to respond to them with available resources (and what should be brought in) 

And maybe best of all

If you are going to stiff disaster victims (or reimburse them generously) you have a local electorate to deal with the fallout 

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44 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

Jesus christ - this is really going to be their play???

Such obvious bullshit.  All it takes, though, is the AFA president to sling some accusations at a black man, and here comes the entire right-wing echo chamber to chant it into "truth" for 40% of the country.

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Still one of the greatest, and most prescient, pieces of satire. It describes 2025 America perfectly, and was said over 20 years ago. I'm reminded of this during this entire flooding disasters governmental fiasco and the way it's all playing out. 

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nobody trusts the local water supply. Nobody! And that amuses me, I like that, I admit I’m a bit perverted but it amuses me that no one can really trust the water anymore and the thing I like about it the most is: it means the system is beginning to collapse and everything is slowly breaking down.

 

I enjoy chaos and disorder – not just because they help me professionally – they’re also my hobby. You see, I’m an entropy fan. When I first heard of entropy in high school science, I was attracted to it immediately. When they told me that in nature, all systems are breaking down, I thought: “What a good thing! What a good thing! Perhaps I can make some small contribution in this area myself.” And of course, it’s not just in nature, in this country, the whole social structure… just beginning to collapse, you watch; just beginning now to come apart at the edges and the seams and the thing I like about that is that it means it makes the news on television more interesting, makes the television news more exciting, makes it more fun. I watch television news for one thing and one thing only: entertainment! That’s all I want from the news: entertainment! You know my favourite thing on television? Bad news! Bad news and disasters and accidents and catastrophes. I wanna see some explosions and fires! I wanna see shit blowing up and bodies flying around! I’m not interested in the budget; I don’t care about tax negotiations; I don’t wanna know what country the fucking Pope is in! But you show me a hospital that’s on fire and people on crutches are jumping off the roof and I’M A HAPPY GUY!!! I’M A HAPPY GUY!!! I’M A HAPPY GUY!!! I wanna see a paint factory blowing up! I wanna see an oil refinery explode! I wanna see a tornado hit a church on Sunday! I wanna see people— I wanna know there’s some guy running through the K-Mart with an automatic weapon firing at the clerks! I wanna see thousands of people in the street killing policemen! I wanna hear about a nuclear meltdown! I wanna know the stock market dropped 2000 points in one day! I wanna see people under pressure! Sirens, flames, smoke, bodies, graves being filled, parents weeping… exciting shit! My kind of TV! I just want some entertainment! It’s just the kind of guy I am! It’s the kind of guy I am! You know what I love the most? When big chunks of concrete and fiery wood are falling out the sky and people are running around trying to get out of the way!

 

Exciting shit! That’s why I watch auto-racing. That’s the only reason I watch auto-racing: I’m waiting for some ACCIDENTS man!!! I wanna see some cars on fire! I don’t care about a bunch of redneck jackoffs driving 500 miles in a circle! 500 miles in a circle? Children can do that for Christ sakes! Doesn’t impress me! I wanna see some schmuck with his hair on fire running around punching his own head trying to put it out! I wanna see the pits explode! I wanna see a car doing a 200mph cartwheel! Hey, where else besides auto-racing am I gonna see a 23 car collision and not be in the son of a bitch?! And if a car flies out of control, lands in the stands and kills 50 spectators, FINE, FUCK ‘EM!!! Serves ‘em right; they paid to get in, let ‘em take their chances with everybody else! Just means more fun for me! More fun for me!

 

Hey, at least I admit it. At least I admit it. Most people won’t admit to those feelings. Most people see something like that on television, they’ll say: “Oh isn’t that awful? Isn’t that too bad?” Pbbt! Lying asshole! Lying assholes! You love it and you KNOW it! EXPLOSIONS ARE FUN!!! And hey, the closer the explosion is to your house, the more fun it is! Did you ever notice that? Sometimes, you have the TV on and you’re working around the house, some guy comes on television and says: “6,000 people were killed in an explosion today…” You say: “Where?! Where?!” He says: “…in Pakistan.” You say: “Aww fuck Pakistan! Too far away to be any fun!” But if he says it happened in your hometown, you’ll say: “WHOA!!! HOT SHIT!!! COME ON DAVE; LET’S GO LOOK AT THE BODIES!!! LET’S GO LOOK AT THE BODIES!!!” I love bad news! I love bad news! Hey, the more bad news there is, the faster this system collapses. Fine by me! Fine by me! Don’t bother my ass! Don’t bother my ass none! I’m glad the water sucks. I’m glad it sucks. You know what I do about it? I drink it! Unless… unless it really smells, if it really smells a lot like sulphur, then I might buy a soda. But it’s gotta be a soda loaded with chemical additives! I like a lot of chemical additives in the things I eat and drink!

 

See, I’m not one of these people who’s worried about everything. You got people like this around you? Countries full of them now: people walking around all day long, every minute of the day, worried… about everything! Worried about the air; worried about the water; worried about the soil; worried about insecticides, pesticides, food additives, carcinogens; worried about radon gas; worried about asbestos; worried about saving endangered species. Let me tell you about endangered species all right? Saving endangered species is just one more arrogant attempt by humans to control nature. It’s arrogant meddling; it’s what got us in trouble in the first place. Doesn’t anybody understand that? Interfering with nature. Over 90% – over, WAY over – 90% of all the species that have ever lived on this planet, ever lived, are gone! Pwwt! They’re extinct! We didn’t kill them all, they just disappeared. That’s what nature does. They disappear these days at the rate of 25 a day and I mean regardless of our behaviour. Irrespective of how we act on this planet, 25 species that were here today will be gone tomorrow. Let them go gracefully. Leave nature alone. Haven’t we done enough?

 

We’re so self-important, so self-important. Everybody’s gonna save something now: “Save the trees! Save the bees! Save the whales! Save those snails!” and the greatest arrogance of all: “Save the planet!” What?! Are these fucking people kidding me?! Save the planet?! We don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet! We haven’t learned how to care for one another and we’re gonna save the fucking planet?! I’m getting tired of that shit! I’m getting tired of that shit! I’m tired of fucking Earth Day! I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists; these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren’t enough bicycle paths! People trying to make the world safe for their Volvo’s! Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. They don’t care about the planet; not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live; their own habitat. They’re worried that someday in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.

 

Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet… nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine… the people are fucked! Difference! The planet is fine! Compared to the people, THE PLANET IS DOING GREAT: Been here four and a half billion years! Do you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years, we’ve been here what? 100,000? Maybe 200,000? And we’ve only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over 200 years. 200 years versus four and a half billion and we have the conceit to think that somehow, we’re a threat? That somehow, we’re going to put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that’s just a-floatin’ around the sun? The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us: been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drifts, solar flares, sunspots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles, hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages, and we think some plastic bags and aluminum cans are going to make a difference?

 

The planet isn’t going anywhere… we are! We’re going away! Pack your shit folks! We’re going away and we won’t leave much of a trace either, thank God for that… maybe a little styrofoam… maybe… little styrofoam. The planet will be here, we’ll be long gone; just another failed mutation; just another closed-end biological mistake; an evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas, a surface nuisance. You wanna know how the planet’s doing? Ask those people in Pompeii who are frozen into position from volcanic ash how the planet’s doing. Wanna know if the planet’s all right? Ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. How about those people in Kilauea, Hawaii who build their homes right next to an active volcano and then wonder why they have lava in the living room?

 

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: The Earth plus Plastic. The Earth doesn’t share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the Earth! The Earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the Earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place: it wanted plastic for itself, didn’t know how to make it, needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old philosophical question: “Why are we here?” PLASTIC!!! ASSHOLES!!!

 

So the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now, and I think that’s really started already, don’t you? I mean, to be fair, the planet probably sees us as a mild threat; something to be dealt with, and I’m sure the planet will defend itself in the manner of a large organism. Like a beehive or an ant colony can muster a defence, I’m sure the planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet trying to defend against this pesky, troublesome species? Let’s see… what might… hmm… viruses! Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And uh… viruses are tricky; always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps this first virus could be one that-that compromises the immune system of these creatures. Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along and maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.

 

Well that’s a poetic note and it’s a start and I can dream can I? See, I don’t worry about the little things… bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we’re part of a greater wisdom that we won’t ever understand, a higher order. Call it what you want. You know what I call it? The big electron… the big electron. [Imitates electronic hum] It doesn’t punish, it doesn’t reward, it doesn’t judge at all. It just is and so are we… for a little while…

 

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8 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I’ve wondered a lot about this. I think he was scared as shit that something really horrible was about to happen and didn’t know how to intervene. If he were out for a run at 4:30 or later, I could see that as somewhat normal but at 3:30 something was on his mind.

I just figured he was fucking someone he wasn't supposed to be fucking and needed a cover story for why he wasn't at home.

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17 minutes ago, speed817 said:

Ingram, Texas council member said he got 3 weather warnings but ignored them.

I love his hat 🤣

 

 

More of the interview here. "I saw a camper float by with people in it screaming for help. Then, when it starting to get a little light, I saw a 13, 14 year old boy getting swept down the river, screaming for help." Just imagine how bad it would've been if Ingram had incompetent DEI types running things. 

 

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What the fuck were the swift water rescuers going to do in the dark of night with everything being swept away?  We aren’t talking about a bunch of people stranded that they could locate and extricate.  
 

they aren’t going into that water to catch whatever people happen to flow to them. It would have been over and they’d be a few more eyes looking for survivors in the morning. 
 

eta: that’s why all this bullshit from all over about being ready is such bullshit. They couldn’t have saved any during the event, they didn’t save many after the event.  The time to save lives was before the event.  And since they, more than once, made the conscious decision to not have the siren flood warning system that others have, and didn’t have any kind of warning system besides apparently door knocking, in an area called flash flood alley in which they claim to be experts at handling floods, it falls on them to have a legitimately actionable plan with a good chance of success. And that plan wouldn’t include ignoring weather warnings. &nbsp
 

people still would have died- there were too many to locate. (Loud sirens could mitigate this issue derp) but they could have saved lives with appropriate action in the hour or so before the event unfolded.  

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Just now, Saint Tacky said:

Nothing under the hat helped one fucking bit either.

Not sure there is much under the hat.

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On 7/8/2025 at 6:03 PM, Da Fino said:

Can you explain what the “invisible dot” is? I have never heard that phrase. 

I think it refers to the old video game on Atari called Adventure.  It was also referred to in the movie Ready Player 1

 

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Yeah yeah yeah delays to getting notices and resources out there.

BUT BAW GAWD THERES A BLUE ALERT 200 MILES AWAY!!! Really really wonderful reminder of the states priorities

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

eta: that’s why all this bullshit from all over about being ready is such bullshit. They couldn’t have saved any during the event, they didn’t save many after the event.  The time to save lives was before the event. 

A few of the camps were shut down BEFORE the storm. One called their session early and sent the campers all the way home. Their people were on the ball. The people who ran Camp Mystic - not so much. Mystic was the only camp to lose campers. They died because the wrong people were in charge. 

As someone wrote, at a minimum, they could have moved the little kids to the big girls cabins on the hill. 

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2 hours ago, wood said:

For the folks saying Chief Baker was wrong to keep AFD resources here rather than ~100 miles away with severe weather incoming, you have to remember that Austin has its own severe flooding issues, and our closer neighbors also rely on us to help them out. It's not simple. Not ever. 

Travis County is currently looking at 7 fatalities and 10 still missing in this flash flood.  I'm pretty sure his judgment was sound.

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3 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Your way got children killed

Someone needs to ask that guy "You were asked how you sleep at night knowing your incompetence resulted in the death of at least 27 children and your response was "I sleep all night long, on a mattress from Mattress Firm. Would you like to clarify? Also, how did such an obviously closeted, diminutive, effeminate sack of shit get elected Mayor in a very red county?"

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3 hours ago, wood said:

So, re: Chief Baker ... I'm not gonna pretend to know what all went down in regard to his decision to not send swiftwater rescue resources to to Kerrville. And I don't particularly care to find out. But I can assure you it's not the slam dunk negligence that some including Charlie Kirk or some of my brothers and/or sisters at the AFL-CIO Local are making it out to be. I have my doubts it was even the wrong decision.

For the folks saying Chief Baker was wrong to keep AFD resources here rather than ~100 miles away with severe weather incoming, you have to remember that Austin has its own severe flooding issues, and our closer neighbors also rely on us to help them out. It's not simple. Not ever. 

We don't have unlimited swiftwater rescue resources. Far from it. We have a handful of boats, and they get worked overtime in every heavy rain event in Austin and the surrounding area. And every time one of those boats leaves the station, the crew and the truck go with it. Thus, they are out of service for typical responses and leave a hole in the city's coverage.

Had Kerrville, Kerr County, and the State lived up to their responsibilites, the disaster could have been averted, or at the very minimum, the human toll could have been drastically reduced.

Period.

Trying to put this on a Fire Chief close to 2 hours away is some astronomically stupid bullshit, esp in light of the incredible idiocy that went down out in Kerr County. But, of course, I understand that as a good little Nazi, that's his job, so that's what that POS is gonna do.

My wife is friends with a swiftwater firefighters wife. 

They are pissed, they didn't wanna go save people, they wanted to go tell everyone to gtfo. The best water rescue is the one that doesn't need to happen. 

Its not his fault for anything that happened, but it was also every bit as stupid as it is being made out to be. 

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4 minutes ago, immamac said:

My wife is friends with a swiftwater firefighters wife. 

They are pissed, they didn't wanna go save people, they wanted to go tell everyone to gtfo. The best water rescue is the one that doesn't need to happen. 

Its not his fault for anything that happened, but it was also every bit as stupid as it is being made out to be. 

If Austin swiftwater rescue knew they needed to knock on doors, why were they needed in Kerr County?  Do you really need specialized rescue personnel to knock on doors with two days' notice?

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10 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Were they going to knock on doors?  How many people are we talking?  

I am just relaying why they are pissed I didn't say anything about anything else, but nice conclusion jumping by all of you.

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@immamac I know this isn’t probably the best time right now and tensions are currently very high on this thread, but I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that the Fyre Brand including the email lists, merchandise, hotel partnerships, social media sites and w everything else are currently on eBay for auction. 

@South Austin said he would gladly handle the legal work. Or at least that’s something he might have said. 

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Just now, TreatyOak said:

@immamac I know this isn’t probably the best time right now and tensions are currently very high on this thread, but I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that the Fyre Brand including the email lists, merchandise, hotel partnerships, social media sites and w everything else are currently on eBay for auction. 

@South Austin said he would gladly handle the legal work. Or at least that’s something he might have said. 

I put a bid on it this morning for 106k on eBay. No shit. 

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21 minutes ago, immamac said:

My wife is friends with a swiftwater firefighters wife. 

They are pissed, they didn't wanna go save people, they wanted to go tell everyone to gtfo. The best water rescue is the one that doesn't need to happen. 

Its not his fault for anything that happened, but it was also every bit as stupid as it is being made out to be. 

Just an observation but we're back to an ineffective warning system.  With the knowledge [some] people had and lack of a warning system I'm left wondering if a helicopter flying down the flood plane with a loud speaker was a viable option.  But who orders that when the behavior of the town officials made it seem like they had no idea it was coming.  

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4 minutes ago, immamac said:

I am just relaying why they are pissed I didn't say anything about anything else, but nice conclusion jumping by all of you.

They just asked questions. I didn't see any conclusion-jumping. I'm also unsure why you'd need to send anyone to tell people to get out, much less specialized personnel, when you could just communicate and coordinate with officials there to do the same thing without our people going there.

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2 hours ago, TexasEd said:

I think it refers to the old video game on Atari called Adventure.  It was also referred to in the movie Ready Player 1

 

Thank you for explaining that. 

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11 minutes ago, immamac said:

I am just relaying why they are pissed I didn't say anything about anything else, but nice conclusion jumping by all of you.

Maybe they're pissed because their union leader told them they should be pissed.

For what reason, I don't really get.  Seems like they might have an axe to grind with the Chief.  @wood?

As our local firefighter mentioned, it's not like Austin has excess capacity and is flood-free.

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3 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

Just an observation but we're back to an ineffective warning system.  With the knowledge [some] people had and lack of a warning system I'm left wondering if a helicopter flying down the flood plane with a loud speaker was a viable option.  But who orders that when the behavior of the town officials made it seem like they had no idea it was coming.  

It also costs money, but at least it might be Trump money this time around.

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2 minutes ago, wood said:

They just asked questions. I didn't see any conclusion-jumping. I'm also unsure why you'd need to send anyone to tell people to get out, much less specialized personnel, when you could just communicate and coordinate with officials there to do the same thing without our people going there.

Yeah why didn't anyone else think of trying to coordinate with local officials! 

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25 minutes ago, immamac said:

My wife is friends with a swiftwater firefighters wife. 

They are pissed, they didn't wanna go save people, they wanted to go tell everyone to gtfo. The best water rescue is the one that doesn't need to happen. 

Its not his fault for anything that happened, but it was also every bit as stupid as it is being made out to be. 

And if they had been in Kerr Country when they were needed in Austin? Would they have been pissed then, too?

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4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

And if they had been in Kerr Country when they were needed in Austin? Would they have been pissed then, too?

No idea, didn't know this was hypothetical wednesday

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Why?  For teh lulz?

Its worth that. 

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