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Posted
1 hour ago, Frank Hammer said:

It's not our political climate but our relationships with our fellow man.

Moose out front shoulda told ya.

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

I get it, conservatives don’t like the hate toward Charlie Kirk. Hey, I’m with you, hate no person, hate no living thing. 

but if you’re going to condemn those who are too weak on the left and say hateful things about Charlie Kirk, are you going to say anything about the hate Charlie Kirk said about others?

This is not a gotcha game, I am here for the radical revolution of kindness

LFG!

Get used to disappointment.

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For those pointing their fingers at the left and calling for civil war, it's worth noting that political violence from the right dwarfs violence from the left. 

"Domestic terrorism incidents have soared to new highs in the United States, driven chiefly by white-supremacist, anti-Muslim and anti-government extremists on the far right, according to a Washington Post analysis of data compiled by the Center for Strategic and International Studies."

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2021/domestic-terrorism-data/

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Posted
Just now, Macanudo said:

Get used to disappointment.

I am, and more importantly, I’ll remain true to my values. 

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5 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

10 years of the dehumanization of those you disagree with makes it ok to murder them for the lunatic fringe. Two failed presidential assassinations and one successful political assassination bear that out. 
 

Evil is real. Simple as that

When was the second failed presidential assassination attempt? Unless you’re talking about another prior to trump

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Posted
8 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Wasn't the MN shooter a Walz appointee?

He was.  An apolitical one to basically a food bank.

Because those without the Trump mind virus know that not every appointment must include a loyalty test.

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Just now, CowboyFred said:

When was the second failed presidential assassination attempt? Unless you’re talking about another prior to trump

Probably the dude caught in the bushes with a rifle at Trump’s golf course while Trump was playing.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Frank Hammer said:

This blaming and baiting and finger pointing is beyond childish. Laughing at death. It's beyond immature. It's vial

Governor Newscum says "Hi!"

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2 minutes ago, CowboyFred said:

When was the second failed presidential assassination attempt? Unless you’re talking about another prior to trump

I'm guessing the golf course dude.

edit: Covri beat me to it.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Heaven forbid we talk about the hateful words and works of a man when the nation is bending over backwards to honor a Jan6 planner and virulent racist. He literally bussed in the guy that was attacking a cop with a fire extinguisher on Jan6, and we're putting flags at half staff.

It's absurd that he is being lionized. It's mourning an arsonist that burned down in his own fire.

 


I mean, I’m not going to argue with that. I’ve been removed from my extended family group chat where they think January 6 was a set up from the left. It still shocks me how we’ve managed to divide our tribes into 2 completely separate realities. 

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Not sure why people, who speak up against gun violence, are somehow required to be on the record that this assassination was wrong. 

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8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Remind me. Did you say this same thing when the Minnesota lawmaker was murdered by a right wing nut and another was wounded?

And Gabby Giffords.

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1 hour ago, MissingInAction said:

Oddly specific. 

Only the best manservants and proctologists who can examine you on the spot reside behind the dumpsters at the Hancock HEB.  And if you're lucky, sometimes they are one and the same person.

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13 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

10 years of the dehumanization of those you disagree with makes it ok to murder them for the lunatic fringe. Two failed presidential assassinations and one successful political assassination bear that out. 
 

Evil is real. Simple as that

 

10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Remind me. Did you say this same thing when the Minnesota lawmaker was murdered by a right wing nut and another was wounded?

Of course he didn't. Because it is only evil when someone from their team is the victim. They are totally cool when Libs get killed.  

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17 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

So Hell means being with all of those who "thought" they were Christians?   Damn, maybe I do believe in Heaven now.  

« L'enfer, c'est les autres. » ~Jean-Paul Sartre
 "Hell is other people."

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34 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Kirk specifically indoctrinated students on college campuses. Education in general is the radical lefts equivalent. 

They painted Obama as divisive, and he got everybody affordable more people healthcare. So of course they’d paint Obama as a radical black Muslim and celebrate his death. 

Fixed for accuracy.  Still a worthy achievement, but a half-measure, if even that, as far as affordability is concerned.

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7 hours ago, troph said:

Here’s my bottom line. The hate has to stop. Both sides. This guy didn’t deserve to die but gun violence needs to stop. The hateful rhetoric against other citizens needs to stop. We need to focus on why we are pitted against each other - the evangelical Christian and I have way more in common than either of us have in common with the corporatists and the billionaires. We need reform up and down across so many areas. We should not let them turn us against ourselves so that they can make our lives miserable while taking from society for their own personal benefit. It’s right there to see. I wish I wish somehow we could figure this crap out. 

The hate both sides is I know you hate me and I hate that.

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4 minutes ago, Covri said:

@Macklemore sorry I posted so many words for you to not be able to read, so here’s a video instead.

 

 

Fuck you and your cabal for negging me for posting NEWS in a Daily Texan thread about the Yankees honoring Charlie Kirk. Charlie was willing to debate his positions and by all accounts was an incredibly kind person. The drivel you posted belongs in the CR cesspool, not in a news thread about the assassination. Daily Texan has gone downhill by the same posters who ruined the CR.

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4 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

 

Of course he didn't. Because it is only evil when someone from their team is the victim. They are totally cool when Libs get killed.  

FOX goes into the background of the victims to justify an attack. 

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i'd have moved the DT posts to a different "shit posted in DT that should have been posted in CR" thread rather than merging them into here where now there's a different side conversation going on. but what do i know?

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Just when I was depressed enough after looking at Facebook....   It's just mind-boggling that people call Kirk "Christ-like" and praise his Christian values.
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I don’t have Facebook, but a quick glance at various sites this morning shows this is a common sentiment. He’s being described as a conservative Christian leader.

I’m a little dumbfounded by the Christian part. I was only vaguely aware of him when his tweets and soundbites got cross posted other places, but I never saw anything that I would consider Christian. He appeared to me as a secular far right conservative. Did his online or in person message have a heavy Christian component that I was unaware of?

Just to play devil’s advocate, I’m sure most of the things I ever saw from him were the most offensive quotes, at least to someone like me, and they were reposted because they would get a reaction from people like me. I understand that’s the unfortunate nature of the internet world. But I’m honestly curious where this Christian leader thing is coming from.

As someone who has quit going to church and is very reluctant to ever resume going to church, I think modern American Christianity has a severe problem with aligning itself with polarizing political figures (almost entirely on the right). Many members of that party say and do things that are undeniably hateful and un-Christ-like, which is ironic especially for Evangelical Christians, who claim they want to spread their faith. The worst way to evangelize is to publicly attach your Christianity to these types of people.
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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Charlie was willing to debate his positions

sure.

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Daily Texan has gone downhill by the same posters who ruined the CR.

swam, onboard, and bugtussle donut dude aren't here anymore.

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Fixed for accuracy.  Still a worthy achievement, but a half-measure, if even that, as far as affordability is concerned.

Yeah. Healthcare is not affordable.

But it’s way less affordable bc of the undermining of the law by republicans.

A fact that I bring up when my conservative friends shit all over Obama and dems and the ACA with their one liner:  ‘How that ‘affordable care’ going for you?’ 
And the preexisting conditions price is just completely forgotten like it was always that way in the US. Oh how they forget.

But alas, it was Obamacare when they tried to kill it. Now it’s the ACA bc they want to mock it.

Sorry for the tangent.

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3 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I think it speaks more to what Christianity has become now. 

There's a certain brand of Christian that is desperate to be persecuted. They'll claim anyone as "Christian" if it helps fit that narrative. 

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7 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Fuck you and your cabal for negging me for posting NEWS in a Daily Texan thread about the Yankees honoring Charlie Kirk. Charlie was willing to debate his positions and by all accounts was an incredibly kind person. The drivel you posted belongs in the CR cesspool, not in a news thread about the assassination. Daily Texan has gone downhill by the same posters who ruined the CR.

I didn’t neg you, dumbass. All I did was post a google summary of things Kirk has said over the years for people who may not be familiar with his opinions. Sorry it hurt your feelings to be confronted with his own beliefs and words. 

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5 minutes ago, elfenix said:

i'd have moved the DT posts to a different "shit posted in DT that should have been posted in CR" thread rather than merging them into here where now there's a different side conversation going on. but what do i know?

This shit that @Covri posted belongs in CR and not in the DT thread 

2 hours ago, Covri said:


Charlie Kirk:

Controversial statements on race and diversity

Criticism of Black pilots and DEI: In January 2024, Kirk stated, "If a Black pilot is seen, it's necessary to hope he's qualified," while arguing that diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives are "anti-White".

Comments on Black crime: In 2023, Kirk discussed what he called "Black crime" in inner cities, referring to it as a "huge problem no one wants to talk about".

Denunciation of the Civil Rights Act: During a December 2023 Turning Point USA event, Kirk stated, "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s," claiming it led to a "permanent" bureaucracy promoting diversity.

Racist dog whistles: In September 2024, Kirk was among the first to spread unproven allegations that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating cats and dogs. This led to former President Donald Trump repeating the false claim in a televised debate.

Support for "Great Replacement" theory: In a February 2024 Instagram post, Kirk referenced the debunked "Great Replacement" conspiracy theory, which alleges that undocumented immigrants are intentionally replacing white Americans. In August 2024, he also accused a Black lawmaker of being part of an "attempt to eliminate the white population in this country".

Disparagement of Martin Luther King Jr.: Kirk dismissed Martin Luther King Jr. as a "mythological creation" of the 1960s and, during a 2023 event, called him "awful" and "not a good person". 

Anti-LGBTQ rhetoric

LGBTQ+ agenda claims: Kirk frequently spoke against what he termed the "LGBTQ agenda," portraying it as a threat to American culture and claiming its efforts would "corrupt your children".

Statements on gender identity: He declared that "there are only two genders" and described transgenderism as "lies that hurt people and abuse kids". He also claimed in 2022 that transgender people were to blame for inflation.

Opposition to transgender healthcare: Kirk vocally opposed gender-affirming care, stating in 2024, "We must ban trans-affirming care — the entire country," and called for Donald Trump to run on this issue.

Homophobic slurs: In 2023, Kirk courted controversy by saying that if January 6 rioters had "stripped naked and filmed themselves having gay sex," they would have been treated more leniently.

Biblical interpretation of homosexuality: In 2024, Kirk cited Leviticus 20:13, which refers to "men lying with men... abomination," calling it "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters". 

Antisemitic claims

Jewish control conspiracies: In October 2023, Kirk repeated antisemitic tropes about Jews controlling various sectors, alleging they dominated universities, non-profits, and Hollywood.

Philanthropy accusations: He accused "elite" Jewish philanthropies of funding universities that foster antisemitism, thereby "subsidising your own demise".

Claims of anti-white animus: In April 2025, Kirk claimed on his show that Jewish communities "have been pushing the exact kind of hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them". He also alleged that "the philosophical foundation of anti-whiteness has been largely financed by Jewish donors in the country". 

Pandemic-related misinformation

Promotion of COVID-19 conspiracy theories: During the pandemic, Kirk used his platform to spread false and misleading information, including claiming the drug hydroxychloroquine was "100 percent effective" against the virus and promoting baseless conspiracy theories about Chinese authorities.

Opposition to mask mandates and lockdowns: He vocally opposed public health measures like mask mandates and school lockdowns.

Vaccine comparisons: In 2021, Kirk reportedly compared vaccine requirements to apartheid. 

Other controversial statements

Promotion of Christian nationalism: Kirk embraced Christian nationalism, warning of a "spiritual battle" against "wokeism, Marxism and Islam." He also referenced the "Seven Mountains Mandate," a political-religious philosophy calling for Christians to control key areas of society.

Comments on gun deaths: After a 2023 mass shooting in Nashville, Kirk claimed that a certain number of gun deaths was a worthwhile "cost" for preserving the Second Amendment.

Support for January 6 rioters: In a January 2021 post on X, Kirk promoted busing "patriots" to Washington, D.C., to "fight for the president" ahead of the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Following the riot, he claimed the rioters did not represent the mainstream of Trump's support. 
 

 

This is just a brief list of things Charlie Kirk has said over the years. 

 

I don’t want to have anything to do with CR nor do I want a post that I  made in DT to show up here. 

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Fuck you and your cabal for negging me for posting NEWS in a Daily Texan thread about the Yankees honoring Charlie Kirk. Charlie was willing to debate his positions and by all accounts was an incredibly kind person. The drivel you posted belongs in the CR cesspool, not in a news thread about the assassination. Daily Texan has gone downhill by the same posters who ruined the CR.


He didn’t deserve to die.

But I’m sure there were a lot of people in the south who were virulent racists who gave to charities and loved their family that we can all agree were wrong and that their beliefs are not ‘kind’ 

Thats him. His life is measured by his influence. And his influence was hate.

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It's all about feelings - Kirk played their feelings to get them mad about the things that were useful to him, and now "he was a Christian!" is being used to paper over everything that everyone full well remembers him saying about exactly this kind of a thing now that it has happened to him and the people who liked what he had to say when it happened to others need some help with the cognitive dissonance. He was a  good Christian man. A father. A husband. By all accounts he was kind. A Christian.  They are attacking you, what will you do?

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8 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Charlie was willing to debate his positions and by all accounts was an incredibly kind person. The drivel you posted belongs in th

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He was an abhorrent, hateful, revolting piece of shit.

Didn't deserve to be gunned down 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

This shit that @Covri posted belongs in CR and not in the DT thread 

 

I don’t want to have anything to do with CR nor do I want a post that I  made in DT to show up here. 

if you were to quit posting altogether it would solve this problem

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Posted
7 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:


I don’t have Facebook, but a quick glance at various sites this morning shows this is a common sentiment. He’s being described as a conservative Christian leader.

I’m a little dumbfounded by the Christian part. I was only vaguely aware of him when his tweets and soundbites got cross posted other places, but I never saw anything that I would consider Christian. He appeared to me as a secular far right conservative. Did his online or in person message have a heavy Christian component that I was unaware of?

Just to play devil’s advocate, I’m sure most of the things I ever saw from him were the most offensive quotes, at least to someone like me, and they were reposted because they would get a reaction from people like me. I understand that’s the unfortunate nature of the internet world. But I’m honestly curious where this Christian leader thing is coming from.

As someone who has quit going to church and is very reluctant to ever resume going to church, I think modern American Christianity has a severe problem with aligning itself with polarizing political figures (almost entirely on the right). Many members of that party say and do things that are undeniably hateful and un-Christ-like, which is ironic especially for Evangelical Christians, who claim they want to spread their faith. The worst way to evangelize is to publicly attach your Christianity to these types of people.

Yeah I would really like to know some more about his devout Christianity.  Where did he attend services?  Did he have a pastor or mentor?  Was he baptized, born again, or confirmed in any denomination?

Attending services at a church is not necessarily a sine qua non of Christianity, but to live a Christian life without organized worship tends to require more spirituality than Kirk evidenced.

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1 minute ago, Macklemore said:

This shit that @Covri posted belongs in CR and not in the DT thread 

 

I don’t want to have anything to do with CR nor do I want a post that I  made in DT to show up here. 

Pointing out the beliefs the person had is part of the news of him and his death. It’s not political to post things he’s said. I’ll defer to immamac that the video saying the same thing was opinion and should be moved, but my previous post that got you all in your feels was a simple summary of the shit he’s said over the years. Take a moment to self reflect on how you reacted to seeing it all summarized like that. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

John Lennon, he was not

Charlie Kirk:  "Imagine all the people (except for Blacks, women, Jews, Muslims and LGBTQ), sharing all the world, you hoo oo."

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

This shit that @Covri posted belongs in CR and not in the DT thread 

 

I don’t want to have anything to do with CR nor do I want a post that I  made in DT to show up here. 

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3 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:


He didn’t deserve to die.

But I’m sure there were a lot of people in the south who were virulent racists who gave to charities and loved their family that we can all agree were wrong and that their beliefs are not ‘kind’ 

Thats him. His life, however, ‘kind’ is measured by his influence. And his influence was hate.

In Christianity, you don't redeem unkind and unchristian acts by performing kind acts.  That's Pharisee shit.

Faith without works is dead and that means you're working at full capacity to be kind all the time and you will still fall short.

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7 minutes ago, Covri said:

I didn’t neg you, dumbass. All I did was post a google summary of things Kirk has said over the years for people who may not be familiar with his opinions. Sorry it hurt your feelings to be confronted with his own beliefs and words. 

That shit doesn’t belong in DT yet you got dozens of likes and I got negged for posting NEWS in a news thread by the same assholes who liked your shit.

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