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5 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, it's stupid to try to make it about healthcare. We need some idiots to learn from touching the stove that touching the stove is bad and they shouldn't do it again. Last Trump admin Dems worked to alleviate the effects of his policies on millions of voters and got no credit for it.  He just slapped his name on the checks they had worked to pass. There are lots of people who need to experience the results of what they voted for. 

It'd make more sense, and would have better public appeal, to simply say that Dems are in the minority and have no control over the outcome, but that they will not co-sign a lawless dictatorship that steals from taxpayers for his own purposes and benefit.  But they're so fucking policy brained they can't help themselves.

They just need to hammer home if this budget bill passes your healthcare premiums will almost double next year and say that over and over and over and over

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Steering this back to real world impact, Russ Vought has determined that furloughed feds aren’t entitled to back pay, although Congress and nearly everyone else believed they passed a law in 2019 which says exactly that.  
 

I FULLY expect the Supreme Court to rule that the move is likely illegal, but unfortunately the people who miss paychecks don’t have standing to sue for them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/07/white-house-furloughed-workers-00596231

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2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Right.  As I understand it, the issue the Dems are rallying around in this shutdown is the extension of ACA tax credits.  This isn't about employer-provided insurance, it's about those who get their insurance via the ACA marketplace, which in 2025 is about 24 million people.

Take those 24 million mostly healthy and young individuals out of the overall insurance pool and the whole system pays for the increase. That’s why I said just tell people their insurance premiums will be 75% higher if this passes and when it passes, if they kill the filibuster shout from the rooftops on every fucking program, this is Trump’s fault.

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11 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Steering this back to real world impact, Russ Vought has determined that furloughed feds aren’t entitled to back pay, although Congress and nearly everyone else believed they passed a law in 2019 which says exactly that.  
 

I FULLY expect the Supreme Court to rule that the move is likely illegal, but unfortunately the people who miss paychecks don’t have standing to sue for them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/07/white-house-furloughed-workers-00596231

will that's an interesting nonsensical move. good. 

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49 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Not approving of this message, but I think it's not worthy that our POTUS is posting ITYSL memes about it.

 

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Well yeah, but this is misrepresenting the facts. Shocker. 

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4 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I FULLY expect the Supreme Court to rule that the move is likely illegal, but unfortunately the people who miss paychecks don’t have standing to sue .

No the employees have standing, they just filed the case in the wrong court.  The correct court is which ever court Trump just disbanded, which is obviously illegal but because it no longer exists, no one has standing to sue to reinstate it.  So sad, but they tried!

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Republicans and trump are already eating the negative publicity about the shutdown, so the democrats should just be filling social media with the truth keeping the heat on trump. 

Autocratic rulers are in danger when the population hates their guts. Since trump doesn't have complete control of the military yet, as evidenced by the response to drunk Pete and comatose Don shitting all over them in person, trump needs to be worrying about how long it'll take for a few top ranking generals to realize they can take him, his cabinet, and several republican politicians out and take control of the government. 

Once the rules are no longer followed and it's governmental anarchy there is nothing stopping competent people in a position of power from attempting to kill and overthrow the incompetent dictator and take power for themselves. 



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