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38 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Yeah, it’s all trending towards the fantasy some have articulated here in which we put the cops fully in power, and then let them decide what we all should and shouldn’t be doing at any given point in time. I didn’t even realize that that was a thing in America, but it’s revealed itself loudly and proudly on this thread. 

This is getting political but I always thought that's what cops did in America.

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1 hour ago, stork642 said:

They drank FISH TANK CLEANER.  You sound about as dumb as they are.  

 

59 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

If someone tells me to get chemo if I have cancer, that doesn't mean they are encouraging me to go home and mix a few of the ingredients myself and inject it into my body.

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2 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

Need to designate *plinkers* as essential workforce infrastructure. 

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better than warring monkey hordes, I guess.

There was a great episode of Insomniac where Dave Attell rode around with New Orleans PD and whacked nutria from the back of a truck with a .22.

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2 minutes ago, smuggs said:

There was a great episode of Insomniac where Dave Attell rode around with New Orleans PD and whacked nutria from the back of a truck with a .22.

That was a great show. I miss the old Comedy Central.

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27 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

I know you're being facetious and don't really give a fuck but I'll indulge.

Since the beginning of March, I've been to 2 stores and to my barber. We also sent most of our admin staff to work from home 2 weeks ago but I work for a health care org that serves central Texas so we've been on top of this shit since January. The people like yourself and CTJ who don't really care about the impact outside of yourself is why this shit is blowing up now. 

But who am I to try and talk sense to someone that was still wanting to go on a ski vacation 10 days ago even when people were telling you this shit was spreading through the ski resorts. 

Facectious ? No not at all. January and February saw millions and  millions of people on airplanes around the county.  You tried to bash somebody who did just that.  Stop with you holier than thou BS. 

You're really a piece of work aren't you ?  I didn't go, and said I was watching and listening to the situation as it unfolded.  I wasn't going to panic and just cancel my life till I saw it was the right thing to do.  Again, in January and February people were traveling everywhere.   There were no quarantines, and no travel restrictions  Your post was BS much as your response above to me.

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35 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

There's several reasons actually. First and foremost, when your road caves in or watermain breaks, we are the ones that have to fix it, and we aren't like Roto rooter just hanging out waiting for a call. We can't just idle and then go, it's a lot of moving parts.

 

Secondly, we can keep generating economic activity fairly safely because we are all spread out in the open air working, and we are self contained, ie. not customer facing. We don't mix with the public so there's no wider transmission risk.

 

ETA: Even in Italy the road contractors are still working.

100% this.  I think the decision to keep construction active by some states and municipalities is multi-faceted.  There's probably less risk of a four-man roofing crew being exposed while putting down a TPO roof at the strip center in Florence than when they go to HEB or Walgreens or the gas station on the way home.  I would hope that most politicians driving these orders understand that.

Second, it's extremely difficult to differentiate some businesses (mine included) that provide both essential and non-essential work.  We provide construction and facility maintenance services.  On the facility maintenance side, we service essential services like medical, restaurant, manufacturing and child care facilities.  While we're prepared to shut down 2/3 of our business, our attorneys have advised us to continue working until we receive specific directives that shut down our construction sites.  We're practicing social distancing on the job and have equipped all of our employees with additional PPE and sanitizers in accordance with CDC guidelines.  

Lastly, I think there would be tremendous financial and legal repercussions if construction did shut down.  We've had a number of preparatory calls with our legal team to discuss Force Majeure clauses in our contracts.  But, how do owners, lenders, tenants and all other parties react / respond when a location is set to open May 1 but gets delayed due to the impact of shelter in place orders?  Or, if you're a homeowner on a lease-back of a house you're selling while you wait for your new home to finish construction, and that gets delayed, are you out on the streets for a few months?  

I know these financial and legal issues pale in comparison to loss of life and the overall impact on the global economy, but at some point, they're going to have to be considered and discussed.

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Cuomo on, had a reply but got lost. Yeah he is longwinded and grim (agree with @PenelopeWitherspoon) but at least has facts and confronts the situation head on. Do people look to the TX, CA PCs as much as this one? Not trying to be CR just wondering if they are as informative. But damn, Cuomo is longwinded as shit. Stick to the facts! And agreed that they need to include info on recoveries and not just focus on the bad shit (although not sure if thats to keep dumbshits from wanting to break social distancing or if he just is not wanting to which is bad info). 

EDIT: todays talk mostly about ventilators and talking about putting them in the acute need areas and moving them "personally" to the next area that needs it.

Re: liquor stores, NY and TX don't sell liquor at grocery stores and it's dumb as shit. Yes, liquor stores need to be essential until that bullshit is fixed.

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1 minute ago, Liquor and Poker said:

Have more than 10,000 Youtube videos on "DON'T DIE - how to refine aquarium cleaner into usable chloroquine" been posted yet?

I mean, there's headlines out there if you want to find them lol

https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/sales-of-fish-tank-additive-skyrocket-after-studies-say-it-could-treat-coronavirus/

Or this interview with them is also illustrative of the point that we're trying to make that people aren't going to use much critical thought

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The name "chloroquine" resonated with the man's wife, who asked that her name not be used to protect the family's privacy. She'd used it previously to treat her koi fish.

"I saw it sitting on the back shelf and thought, 'Hey, isn't that the stuff they're talking about on TV?'"

The couple — both in their 60s and potentially at higher risk for complications of the virus — decided to mix a small amount of the substance with a liquid and drink it as a way to prevent the coronavirus.

 Cloroquine Phosphate is indeed taken on its own to treat malaria. Now, nobody is saying that the president is personally liable for these people's terrible decision making. However, it's strong evidence of the danger that comes from a lack of consistent message from the white house, and the president overriding his medical experts advice and counsel on the topic. 

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Watching this Gov. Cuomo presser. I give him credit for trying to be a leader and look out for his constituents. Rambling on and on about things that were done wrong before today is not helping anyone though. And he’s a typical New Yorker by claiming that all 20,000 reserve federal ventilators should go to NY, “they don’t have to live here permanently, when we get past this they will be relocated to other parts of the country!” Have you seen northern Italy, sir? You won’t be done with 20,000 ventilators before the end of the year. But NY first above all! 
 

Every city in the country will be short on them very soon. 

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1 hour ago, GabrielsHorn said:

Because if they get closed down, you’ll see a run on the liquor stores that will end up hurting your original directive. 
 

source: I experienced it yesterday and the lines were more dangerous than keeping them open with more strict guidelines. 

that's apparently what happened in Denver yesterday... they announced their order that only excepted medical use dispensaries...and people absolutely mobbed dispensaries and liquor stores. i think they changed the order within an hour lol

i mean... there's some mental health concerns to think of, in all seriousness. 

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5 minutes ago, Spaulding Smails said:

100% this.  I think the decision to keep construction active by some states and municipalities is multi-faceted.  There's probably less risk of a four-man roofing crew being exposed while putting down a TPO roof at the strip center in Florence than when they go to HEB or Walgreens or the gas station on the way home.  I would hope that most politicians driving these orders understand that.

Second, it's extremely difficult to differentiate some businesses (mine included) that provide both essential and non-essential work.  We provide construction and facility maintenance services.  On the facility maintenance side, we service essential services like medical, restaurant, manufacturing and child care facilities.  While we're prepared to shut down 2/3 of our business, our attorneys have advised us to continue working until we receive specific directives that shut down our construction sites.  We're practicing social distancing on the job and have equipped all of our employees with additional PPE and sanitizers in accordance with CDC guidelines.  

Lastly, I think there would be tremendous financial and legal repercussions if construction did shut down.  We've had a number of preparatory calls with our legal team to discuss Force Majeure clauses in our contracts.  But, how do owners, lenders, tenants and all other parties react / respond when a location is set to open May 1 but gets delayed due to the impact of shelter in place orders?  Or, if you're a homeowner on a lease-back of a house you're selling while you wait for your new home to finish construction, and that gets delayed, are you out on the streets for a few months?  

I know these financial and legal issues pale in comparison to loss of life and the overall impact on the global economy, but at some point, they're going to have to be considered and discussed.

We have several tenant improvement projects currently underway.  Where we normally have subs from different trades working simultaneously in space, we are staggering and limiting the work to a single trade at a time.

We also have a MASSIVE ground up development that has basically stopped.  And it is going to be brutally expensive.

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52 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

You guys are arguing with a cloak room troll. They seem to all be of some sort of pathology where they think that we’re all in danger based on whatever the president says, and when someone dies of their own stupidity, he must be held accountable and personally put on trial for murder.

That’s the best I can tell. I’ve never seen this phenomenon in real life where people hang on every word someone they despise says, and then spend all day talking about it. I get the vibe that that is pretty much what happens in the cloak room all day. Just wait to see what is said next, then rotate between fuming and sobbing. Watching paint dry sounds more fun, but I’m not a fucking lemming, so who knows. 

Anywho, feel free to join me in just negging these fucktards on site. I’ve actually stopped waiting to finish reading their posts. 

Are you familiar with the concept of good leadership? You do understand that the person at the top sets the tone for the entire country, right? That maybe people seeing that person take things seriously and have an actual plan and trust in people who know what they're talking about might possibly, idk, lead to better management of crises like this? Like maybe if the person at the top had their shit together, we could have gotten a handle on it a lot sooner, and all your precious fucking sports wouldn't have gotten cancelled. You unbelievable moron.

 

Or you could just stand by and let him Charlie Strong the situation, and get all buttmad at anyone who DARES to mention that maybe his fucktardedness is doing too much damage to the country that we all fucking live in.

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3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Kentucky couple reportedly tried to buy as many Mountain Dew cans at a Louisville Kroger earlier this week and complained to an employee when they were not allowed to leave the store. The man and woman tried to buy 23 cases, totaling 552 cans of Mountain Dew. The video, published by The Daily Mail on Friday and posted on Reddit, surfaced as grocery stores have struggled to keep shelves stocked during the coronavirus outbreak.

The man told a cashier he was told he could drop off some Mountain Dew cases in his car, then come back into the store to buy more. When he is told he cannot buy more, he is heard yelling, "A straight up lie. What a liar! You're such a liar. ... You just told me right now that I could go outside and come back in and get the drinks."

The man continued shouting, while the woman tried to keep the peace. He even started to push the cart away before the woman stopped him. He was told he was only able to take two of the four cases in his cart. She picked up the other two cases and slammed them on the cash register before pushing the cart away.

https://popculture.com/trending/2020/03/23/coronavirus-mountain-dew-kroger-couple-552-cans/

SEC SEC SEC!

Shame they didn’t use their speed to get the Dew out the door.  

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7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I mean, there's headlines out there if you want to find them lol

https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/sales-of-fish-tank-additive-skyrocket-after-studies-say-it-could-treat-coronavirus/

Or this interview with them is also illustrative of the point that we're trying to make that people aren't going to use much critical thought

 Cloroquine Phosphate is indeed taken on its own to treat malaria. Now, nobody is saying that the president is personally liable for these people's terrible decision making. However, it's strong evidence of the danger that comes from a lack of consistent message from the white house, and the president overriding his medical experts advice and counsel on the topic. 

Why did those two people die? Was the aquarium-grade chloroquine phosphate mixed with something else that was toxic, or did they take way too much, or what?

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6 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Facectious ? No not at all. January and February saw millions and  millions of people on airplanes around the county.  You tried to bash somebody who did just that.  Stop with you holier than thou BS. 

It wasn't so much directed AT him but just using his example of why some people are idiots and can't be trusted to use common sense instead of having their hand forced by the govt to stay their ass at home. BTW, how did that unrestricted air travel thing work out? We stopped the spread, right? 

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7 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

You're really a piece of work aren't you ?  I didn't go, and said I was watching and listening to the situation as it unfolded.  I wasn't going to panic and just cancel my life till I saw it was the right thing to do.  

What was it I said? Oh yeah: "The people like yourself and CTJ who don't really care about the impact outside of yourself..." Thanks for proving my point for me.
BTW, delaying a ski vacation doesn't equate to panic. Lulz.

 

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35 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I mean, there's headlines out there if you want to find them lol

https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/sales-of-fish-tank-additive-skyrocket-after-studies-say-it-could-treat-coronavirus/

Or this interview with them is also illustrative of the point that we're trying to make that people aren't going to use much critical thought

 Cloroquine Phosphate is indeed taken on its own to treat malaria. Now, nobody is saying that the president is personally liable for these people's terrible decision making. However, it's strong evidence of the danger that comes from a lack of consistent message from the white house, and the president overriding his medical experts advice and counsel on the topic. 

Dude, can you not comprehend what the phrase "no politics allowed" means? Take your dumb ass to the Cloak Room and please lock the door behind you.

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This goes for you too, Pam

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1 hour ago, Hmbre97 said:

It wasn't so much directed AT him but just using his example of why some people are idiots and can't be trusted to use common sense instead of having their hand forced by the govt to stay their ass at home. BTW, how did that unrestricted air travel thing work out? We stopped the spread, right? 

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What was it I said? Oh yeah: "The people like yourself and CTJ who don't really care about the impact outside of yourself..." Thanks for proving my point for me.
BTW, delaying a ski vacation doesn't equate to panic. Lulz.

 

You haven't really proved anything. Again in January and February there was no thought by the gov't or citizens to not fly domestically at least.  That was what started the back and forth.  

The use of the word panic is a euphemsim. I wasn't going to put my life on hold till I had enough actual evidence, and not others simply saying agggghhh the sky is falling. When I got a phone call from my Air Force son saying they were restricted from any travel till May 11 at least, that made my decision clear.

 

EDIT:  Nice use of graphics though.

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13 minutes ago, Spaulding Smails said:

Lastly, I think there would be tremendous financial and legal repercussions if construction did shut down.  We've had a number of preparatory calls with our legal team to discuss Force Majeure clauses in our contracts.  But, how do owners, lenders, tenants and all other parties react / respond when a location is set to open May 1 but gets delayed due to the impact of shelter in place orders?  Or, if you're a homeowner on a lease-back of a house you're selling while you wait for your new home to finish construction, and that gets delayed, are you out on the streets for a few months?  

 

How did those calls go? I'm a real estate developer that was just about to sign a $7MM construction loan with a hard completion date.  The force majeure provision was limited with no pandemic language.

Now this lender has temporarily closed up shop and isn't funding any draws.   Nice, right?  I understand construction crews needing to push forward, but how long does this go on if the lenders don't fund.  Hopefully this ends soon and we don't have to find out.

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This thread is now worthless. You arguing fuckers are worse than my 7th grade daughter and her friends. A lot worse actually.

Nice job asshats.

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15 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I mean, there's headlines out there if you want to find them lol

https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/sales-of-fish-tank-additive-skyrocket-after-studies-say-it-could-treat-coronavirus/

Or this interview with them is also illustrative of the point that we're trying to make that people aren't going to use much critical thought

 Cloroquine Phosphate is indeed taken on its own to treat malaria. Now, nobody is saying that the president is personally liable for these people's terrible decision making. However, it's strong evidence of the danger that comes from a lack of consistent message from the white house, and the president overriding his medical experts advice and counsel on the topic. 

My dude, they DRANK an anti parasite aquarium formula from a fucking store. To put even 1 iota of blame on Trump for Darwin level decision making puts you at partisan hack level 1 million. 

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17 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I mean, there's headlines out there if you want to find them lol

https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/sales-of-fish-tank-additive-skyrocket-after-studies-say-it-could-treat-coronavirus/

Or this interview with them is also illustrative of the point that we're trying to make that people aren't going to use much critical thought

 Cloroquine Phosphate is indeed taken on its own to treat malaria. Now, nobody is saying that the president is personally liable for these people's terrible decision making. However, it's strong evidence of the danger that comes from a lack of consistent message from the white house, and the president overriding his medical experts advice and counsel on the topic. 

I think you missed the point of my post.  After they died, I fully expect thousands of Youtube videos on how to do what they did but do it "right."

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9 minutes ago, XYZ said:

Why did those two people die? Was the aquarium-grade chloroquine phosphate mixed with something else that was toxic, or did they take way too much, or what?

Asking for a friend?

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Neighbor’s truck 3 doors down was broken into last night. Lost a $75 flashlight.

I’m surprised there hasn’t been a big jump in “defensive” shootings.

kinda bothers me that the house next door is empty and up for lease. 

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1 minute ago, Armybrat said:

kinda bothers me that the house next door is empty and up for lease. 

Maybe that’s what they want you to think. Bwahaha.

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21 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Now, nobody is saying that the president is personally liable for these people's terrible decision making. 

 

5 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

My dude, they DRANK an anti parasite aquarium formula from a fucking store. To put even 1 iota of blame on Trump for Darwin level decision making puts you at partisan hack level 1 million. 

??? reading comprehension is hard

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10 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

It wasn't so much directed AT him but just using his example of why some people are idiots and can't be trusted to use common sense instead of having their hand forced by the govt to stay their ass at home.

 

5 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

 When I got a phone call from my Air Force son saying they were restricted from any travel till May 11 at least, that made my decision clear.

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1 minute ago, Armybrat said:

Neighbor’s truck 3 doors down was broken into last night. Lost a $75 flashlight.

I’m surprised there hasn’t been a big jump in “defensive” shootings.

kinda bothers me that the house next door is empty and up for lease. 

I got the same issue.  Neighbors got older and decided to find a house that has a downstairs master suite.  They have the means to buy a new house for cash, so they just left this house and bought another saying they'll put this one up "at some point."  Now that's on hold.  

Yard man and pool boy are the only people who've been there since early January. At least AFAIK.

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5 minutes ago, Mach 1 said:

How did those calls go? I'm a real estate developer that was just about to sign a $7MM construction loan with a hard completion date.  The force majeure provision was limited with no pandemic language.

Now this lender has temporarily closed up shop and isn't funding any draws.   Nice, right?  I understand construction crews needing to push forward, but how long does this go on if the lenders don't fund.  Hopefully this ends soon and we don't have to find out.

I have yet to hit the financial problems in regards to project, yet.  I can report that the confustion over Shelter In Place  type declarations and ambiguity in "critical workers/infrastructure" communication has fucked workflow pretty hard over the last week or so.  Nothing is going to finish on time over the next few months.

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Just now, Captainant said:

??? reading comprehension is hard

Now, nobody is saying that the president is personally liable for these people's terrible decision making. However, it's strong evidence of the danger that comes from a lack of consistent message from the white house, and the president overriding his medical experts advice and counsel on the topic. 

No it is hard for you, very hard. 

You did the "it isnt his fault completely" HOWEVER "it is still his fault because of  his messaging and mainly because I hate him and I am a partisan hack" 

 

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2 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

The playgrounds in Mueller were overrun with kids all weekend with not a Clorox wipe in sight. It was 95% Hispanic families (no racisto) which made my wife wonder if Spanish speaking news was covering COVID as seriously as english MSM. These families were babies, toddlers, grade school, young parents, old parents, and abuelitas. 

There were about a tenth or less than the usual amount of kids and parents out over the weekend.  More groups of younger white guys playing volleyball and frisbee at the splash pad park

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2 minutes ago, squeegeedegg said:

There were about a tenth or less than the usual amount of kids and parents out over the weekend.  More groups of younger white guys playing volleyball and frisbee at the splash pad park

How did the Clorox wipe situation look?

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1 hour ago, JBJ said:

It says something about society when alcohol and on-demand entertainment are not just considered good for the psyche but also necessary.

/stepsdownfromhighhorse

well that would be almost every society in the world since like the invention of alcohol...unless you don't consider strippers and prostitutes on demand entertainment.

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4 minutes ago, Liquor and Poker said:

I got the same issue.  Neighbors got older and decided to find a house that has a downstairs master suite.  They have the means to buy a new house for cash, so they just left this house and bought another saying they'll put this one up "at some point."  Now that's on hold.  

Yard man and pool boy are the only people who've been there since early January. At least AFAIK.

Sounds like you need to move in over there and get your squatter's rights going on.

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8 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Neighbor’s truck 3 doors down was broken into last night. Lost a $75 flashlight.

I’m surprised there hasn’t been a big jump in “defensive” shootings.

kinda bothers me that the house next door is empty and up for lease. 

I am just waiting for the house to get broken into and they steal all my booze and TP.

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4 minutes ago, squeegeedegg said:

There were about a tenth or less than the usual amount of kids and parents out over the weekend.  More groups of younger white guys playing volleyball and frisbee at the splash pad park

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yeah here’s a pic a snapped of them

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3 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

this thread at least proves that the mods can't just say "NO POLITICS" in the thread title and expect it to have any effect

Yeah, but the point I'm trying to make is VERY IMPORTANT and YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT!!!!

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For some discussion, a conversation among legal colleagues about the reach and enforceability of various restrictive orders issued by county, state, etc. authorities that exercise what is called "police power" and temporarily restrain liberty (posting a good piece below).  The TLDR version: in the interest of public health, restrictions on liberty are allowed, and have been for a long time, per SCOTUS.  Each rule/reg will be different, and of course can be challenged as an impermissibly broad exercise of that power, but the law is pretty clear that the authorities CAN take significant action to restrict liberty in the interest of public health.
"It is, then, liberty regulated by law."
This Constitutional law piece is from my Texas Lawyer colleague:
Here is the Supreme Court’s ruling on the government’s exercise of police power in the face of an epidemic:
In Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 25 S.Ct. 358, 49 L.Ed. 643 (1905), the United States Supreme Court considered a challenge to a state law requiring everyone to be vaccinated against smallpox. Henning Jacobson refused vaccination and was convicted. The court upheld the law and Jacobson’s conviction.
Mr. Justice Harlan wrote for a 7-2 majority:
“The Constitution does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint.” Instead, “a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic.” Its members “may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.”
“The authority of the state to enact this statute is to be referred to what is commonly called the police power,—a power which the state did not surrender when becoming a member of the Union under the Constitution.”
“According to settled principles, the police power of a state must be held to embrace, at least, such reasonable regulations established directly by legislative enactment as will protect the public health and the public safety.”
“Even liberty itself, the greatest of all rights, is not unrestricted license to act according to one’s own will. It is only freedom from restraint under conditions essential to the equal enjoyment of the same right by others. It is, then, liberty regulated by law.”
“In every well-ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.”
“We hold that the statute in question is a health law, enacted in a reasonable and proper exercise of the police power.”
“We do not perceive that this legislation has invaded any right secured by the Federal Constitution.”
“Nothing clearly appears that would justify this court in holding the statute to be unconstitutional.”
The judgment of conviction must be affirmed.
It is so ordered.
 
Good info. Any idea where the penalties come from? For example, the Dallas Cty ord doesn't list any consequences for violations, but news stated violators could be fined up to $2,500 per offense.

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12 minutes ago, Mach 1 said:

How did those calls go? I'm a real estate developer that was just about to sign a $7MM construction loan with a hard completion date.  The force majeure provision was limited with no pandemic language.

Now this lender has temporarily closed up shop and isn't funding any draws.   Nice, right?  I understand construction crews needing to push forward, but how long does this go on if the lenders don't fund.  Hopefully this ends soon and we don't have to find out.

If they open up shop again and seek to close, make sure that FM clause has specific pandemic/COVID langugage (especially if loan docs are governed by TX or NY law), make sure all completion/commencement dates are subject to FM, and look at any MAC clauses very carefully. If you can carve out COVID out of the MAC definition (if you are otherwise performing) that would be best, if not, then make sure there is a similar limitation if you have a MAC EOD (get this deleted if possible), or "no MAC" as a condition to future draws.

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1 hour ago, Hefeweizen said:

It’s clear that the quarantine is going to turn into Thunderdome pretty quickly.  I am looking forward to it.

People are putting up Christmas lights.   We still have power and internet (porn and games).  We got a ways to go.  

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27 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Are you familiar with the concept of good leadership? You do understand that the person at the top sets the tone for the entire country, right? That maybe people seeing that person take things seriously and have an actual plan and trust in people who know what they're talking about might possibly, idk, lead to better management of crises like this? Like maybe if the person at the top had their shit together, we could have gotten a handle on it a lot sooner, and all your precious fucking sports wouldn't have gotten cancelled. You unbelievable moron.

 

Or you could just stand by and let him Charlie Strong the situation, and get all buttmad at anyone who DARES to mention that maybe his fucktardedness is doing too much damage to the country that we all fucking live in.

Cloak room troll talking boring fucking politics. Negged and fuck your own face. 

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