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1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Beard can recruit just as good and probably better than Shaka. No need to even talk about his development of said recruits. UT recruits itself, and his job just got easier in that department. I'm amped at this hire. 


All evidence to the contrary.

As Shaka was pulling in 4 stars & 5 stars, Beard was patching together a team of 3 stars and transfers.

Beard got his first 5 just this last year and the kid quit on the team and is going elsewhere.

What Beard can do, not just as well as Shaka, but much better than Shaka... is COACH. He can coach before the game better than Shaka, he can coach during a game better than Shaka, he can make adjustments at halftime better than Shaka, and he sure as hell can coach end of games better than Shaka.

Perhaps Lubbock was part of the problem, or perhaps Beard didn't kiss the asses of the highly rated players, but he could not recruit the talent to Tech than Shaka recruited to Texas. 

We shall now see if Beard's recruiting improves now that he is no longer exiled in Lubbock.

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3 minutes ago, Napoleon said:


All evidence to the contrary.

As Shaka was pulling in 4 stars & 5 stars, Beard was patching together a team of 3 stars and transfers.

Beard got his first 5 just this last year and the kid quit on the team and is going elsewhere.

What Beard can do, not just as well as Shaka, but much better than Shaka... is COACH. He can coach before the game better than Shaka, he can coach during a game better than Shaka, he can make adjustments at halftime better than Shaka, and he sure as hell can coach end of games better than Shaka.

Perhaps Lubbock was part of the problem, or perhaps Beard didn't kiss the asses of the highly rated players, but he could not recruit the talent to Tech than Shaka recruited to Texas. 

We shall now see if Beard's recruiting improves now that he is no longer exiled in Lubbock.

I have no idea if Beard is as good a recruiter as Shaka, but it is absolutely useless comparing recruiting records between someone at Texas Tech and Texas.

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7 minutes ago, Napoleon said:


All evidence to the contrary.

As Shaka was pulling in 4 stars & 5 stars, Beard was patching together a team of 3 stars and transfers.

Beard got his first 5 just this last year and the kid quit on the team and is going elsewhere.

What Beard can do, not just as well as Shaka, but much better than Shaka... is COACH. He can coach before the game better than Shaka, he can coach during a game better than Shaka, he can make adjustments at halftime better than Shaka, and he sure as hell can coach end of games better than Shaka.

Perhaps Lubbock was part of the problem, or perhaps Beard didn't kiss the asses of the highly rated players, but he could not recruit the talent to Tech than Shaka recruited to Texas. 

We shall now see if Beard's recruiting improves now that he is no longer exiled in Lubbock.

I guess I should have said regarding his recruiting is that he can develop his recruits, which makes them better. My apologies for not saying that in the first place. 

 

I am stoked to see how he develops 4 and 5 stars since UT basically recruits itself. 

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1 minute ago, Machinator said:

I have no idea if Beard is as good a recruiter as Shaka, but it is absolutely useless comparing recruiting records between someone at Texas Tech and Texas.

The 247 write up mentioning how Vic Schaefer wanted a 5 star that said "no thanks" to life in Starkvegas, but was all on board with signing with Vic to play in Austin seems appropriate here.

Apparently the shoes matter a lot more than I would have ever guessed too.

Money, Its Gotta be the Shoes by MickleDesignWerks on DeviantArt

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Just now, jinx said:

The 247 write up mentioning how Vic Schaefer wanted a 5 star that said "no thanks" to life in Starkvegas, but was all on board with signing with Vic to play in Austin seems appropriate here.

Apparently the shoes matter a lot more than I would have ever guessed too.

Money, Its Gotta be the Shoes by MickleDesignWerks on DeviantArt

I think I read Schafer landed the top 2 players in the class for Texas. One from Texas and the other from Oklahoma, unless I misread it, which is possible since it was months ago. 

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2 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

I think I read Schafer landed the top 2 players in the class for Texas. One from Texas and the other from Oklahoma, unless I misread it, which is possible since it was months ago. 

From @Machinator post this morning from 247:

Beard will never admit this publicly, but according to sources close to the situation, it’s been harder for Beard to lure top recruits, such as Cade Cunningham, who ended up at Oklahoma State, because Tech is an Under Armour school as opposed to a Nike school like Texas and Oklahoma State.

“In basketball, how schools align with shoe companies matter,” said a source close to the situation.

There’s also the ability to recruit to Austin.

Texas women’s coach Vic Schaefer may be the best testimonial for that. When 6-foot-1 forward Aliyah Moore, the No. 6 prospect in the 2021 class from Moore, Okla., signed with Texas, she said Schaefer had recruited her hard to go to Mississippi State, but Moore had no interest in going to school in Starkville, Miss.

As soon as Schaefer got the Texas job, he called Moore, and because he was now headed to Austin, Moore was immediately interested in joining Schaefer at UT, which she’ll do this fall.

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22 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

 

Perhaps Lubbock was part of the problem, or perhaps Beard didn't kiss the asses of the highly rated players, but he could not recruit the talent to Tech than Shaka recruited to Texas. 

 

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edit: basically the same thing @jinxjust posted right there ☝️

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I don't recall Barnes or Shaka being nearly as successful recruiting before they arrived in Austin. I expect Beard's recruiting to improve now that he is selling UT/Austin. 

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Beard’s recruiting at Tech has been outstanding.   He beat us straight up for Zhaire Smith and several DFW guys.   Ramsey, Burnett (the 5 star who transferred this year), Peavy, Shannon, and the kid from Plano they have coming next year are Tech’s highest rated recruits ever (or at least since the internet services became a big thing; I don’t remember how highly ranked Jason Sasser and Tony Battie were in the James Dickey buying players days). 

Beard elevated Tech’s recruiting so much it’s insane.   I expect big time recruiting here.

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12 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Beard’s recruiting at Tech has been outstanding.   He beat us straight up for Zhaire Smith and several DFW guys.   Ramsey, Burnett (the 5 star who transferred this year), Peavy, Shannon, and the kid from Plano they have coming next year are Tech’s highest rated recruits ever (or at least since the internet services became a big thing; I don’t remember how highly ranked Jason Sasser and Tony Battie were in the James Dickey buying players days). 

Beard elevated Tech’s recruiting so much it’s insane.   I expect big time recruiting here.


Our saving grace for the 2021/22 season is that he knows how to navigate the transfer market.

Not saying that Shaka has left scorched earth in Austin, but the earth would be considered "too hot to walk on in bare feet" if someone had to describe the roster situation today.

I wonder if there is any shot that Greg Brown returns for another year so that he can learn how an amazing athlete can play team basketball. It's doubtful. He'll go in the first round to somewhere and learn how to play basketball from NBA coaches while getting paid millions and counting down the years until his second contract.

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2 hours ago, Napoleon said:


All evidence to the contrary.

As Shaka was pulling in 4 stars & 5 stars, Beard was patching together a team of 3 stars and transfers.

Beard got his first 5 just this last year and the kid quit on the team and is going elsewhere.

What Beard can do, not just as well as Shaka, but much better than Shaka... is COACH. He can coach before the game better than Shaka, he can coach during a game better than Shaka, he can make adjustments at halftime better than Shaka, and he sure as hell can coach end of games better than Shaka.

Perhaps Lubbock was part of the problem, or perhaps Beard didn't kiss the asses of the highly rated players, but he could not recruit the talent to Tech than Shaka recruited to Texas. 

We shall now see if Beard's recruiting improves now that he is no longer exiled in Lubbock.

I would think it’s harder to recruit talent to Lubbock.  Especially the one and done kids

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For crying out loud folks, Bob Freaking Weltlich recruited well to Texas.  Beard, who is far less of a jerk than Weltlich, will be fine here.

Plus, Beard has placed 2 lottery picks, a 2nd rounder, and several undrafted FAs into the NBA - FROM TEXAS TECH! 

Trivia question: Before Beard got to TTU, when was the last time a TTU player was drafted?
I'll answer: 2004.

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4 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

For crying out loud folks, Bob Freaking Weltlich recruited well to Texas.  Beard, who is far less of a jerk than Weltlich, will be fine here.

Plus, Beard has placed 2 lottery picks, a 2nd rounder, and several undrafted FAs into the NBA - FROM TEXAS TECH! 

Trivia question: Before Beard got to TTU, when was the last time a TTU player was drafted?
I'll answer: 2004.

Correct.  Also Bobby knight and tubby didn’t recruit lights out either.   It’s a tough place and I don’t remember many years where we didn’t out recruit them, regardless of coach

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8 hours ago, Napoleon said:


All evidence to the contrary.

As Shaka was pulling in 4 stars & 5 stars, Beard was patching together a team of 3 stars and transfers.

Beard got his first 5 just this last year and the kid quit on the team and is going elsewhere.

What Beard can do, not just as well as Shaka, but much better than Shaka... is COACH. He can coach before the game better than Shaka, he can coach during a game better than Shaka, he can make adjustments at halftime better than Shaka, and he sure as hell can coach end of games better than Shaka.

Perhaps Lubbock was part of the problem, or perhaps Beard didn't kiss the asses of the highly rated players, but he could not recruit the talent to Tech than Shaka recruited to Texas. 

We shall now see if Beard's recruiting improves now that he is no longer exiled in Lubbock.

Exiled in Lubbock has to be somebody’s country album title already, doesn’t it?

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6 hours ago, Goodman said:

Big fat tech tears.

 

Man this is bad. These guys are delusional. Texas a “lateral move?” Lol.

Compare this to the CBS Eye on College Basketball podcast - a national guy called Texas a top 5 or 6 job and said, “if you stay at Tech you spend your whole career wondering if you made the right choice. If you take the Texas job, you spend maybe a day or two feeling bad about leaving Tech, but you know you made the right choice.”

TRIGGERED!

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On 4/1/2021 at 8:00 AM, slorch said:

So UNC offers Beard $5MM/ year and he giggles...

 

He’s going to be a lot more expensive than he would have been a week ago, no matter where he goes/ stays.

UT should have paid the $5MM buyout when they had the chance.

Yea.  We misplayed our cards didn’t we?

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