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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

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Arizona is right in between California and New Mexico, lol

I was referring to people who are here in Texas. I'm sorry the context didn't make that ENTIRELY clear, although I'd have hoped that "Have to fly to Colorado" when someone could clearly drive from AZ to Colorado made that obvious. 

But I was referring to people from Texas, which has one of the top cities for medical care in the world, now can't feasibly even drive to a neighboring state to get care. We're entirely landlocked. 

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1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Um, no. Making a bad situation worse when it has real impacts is just, no.

On the one hand, I agree, it sucks.

On the other, Kari Lake and other Republicans are losing their shit, because the chickens are coming home to roost and the ads are writing themselves.

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1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

Pardon my ignorance but I really had no idea a state could revert back to laws from almost 50 years before it was a state. wtf?

Hot Wheels, Crazy Eye, and Dannie Goeb are drooling over the thought of this.

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37 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I was referring to people who are here in Texas. I'm sorry the context didn't make that ENTIRELY clear, although I'd have hoped that "Have to fly to Colorado" when someone could clearly drive from AZ to Colorado made that obvious. 

But I was referring to people from Texas, which has one of the top cities for medical care in the world, now can't feasibly even drive to a neighboring state to get care. We're entirely landlocked. 

 

New Mexico is the only bordering state. These maps are from the NYTimes and were updated today at 1pm CDT:

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Coahuila's also across the border from Eagle Pass (Piedras Negras) and Del Rio (Ciudad Acuña).

None of these options are ideal, obviously, but I just want to get the info out there for anyone who may know someone in need.

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12 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Pardon my ignorance but I really had no idea a state could revert back to laws from almost 50 years before it was a state. wtf?

Yeah, I don't agree but I "get" the justification for "This what the founders wanted" shit when courts rule on issues.  But a militia backed territorial administrator came up with this law before the Civil War in a place where you could murder people outside the saloon but women couldn't get abortions.  I get it, it was a different time.  I mean there's originalist intent, and then there's, "Yeah, well for a bright silver coin you could get a beer, a whiskey, a steak, some oats for our horses, a shave, a tub soak, and get a hooker pregnant against her will and force her to carry it to term.  That thing we do here in the Territory of Arizona while Conrad Hilton is in office."  

What fucking timeline is this?  

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2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Hang it around her fucking neck.

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That’s really funny. Are hardcore pro-life voters too stupid to understand how much this (and Trump’s statement) insults their intelligence, or do they just not care?

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17 minutes ago, tokamak said:

That’s really funny. Are hardcore pro-life voters too stupid to understand how much this (and Trump’s statement) insults their intelligence, or do they just not care?

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2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I was referring to people who are here in Texas. I'm sorry the context didn't make that ENTIRELY clear, although I'd have hoped that "Have to fly to Colorado" when someone could clearly drive from AZ to Colorado made that obvious. 

But I was referring to people from Texas, which has one of the top cities for medical care in the world, now can't feasibly even drive to a neighboring state to get care. We're entirely landlocked. 

Wut? Did we stop sharing a border with New Mexico?

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Arizona Dems should do the same thing to Trump that he did to the  congressional dems recently on immigration.  Refuse to help in any way, shape, or form to solve or improve this issue until AFTER the election this year.

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1 hour ago, Voldemort86 said:

Arizona Dems should do the same thing to Trump that he did to the  congressional dems recently on immigration.  Refuse to help in any way, shape, or form to solve or improve this issue until AFTER the election this year.

Gov can pardon there?

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No. There is no "get" on this, nor is there justification. I may be two martinis deep tonight on my thought process, but the idea that modern day judges "get" anything on the founders is just bullshit. They want to manipulate what they want by cherry picking phrases in order to use their power to enforce what they have deemed is what the founders wanted. As if.
I understand your point, but they, like other originalists, conveniently ignore that which they proclaim to be fact is rather subjective and that they only hold that power because we have "given" it to them. Because we are stupid. So, uh, yeah.
Mrs. Whiggins needs to calm down.

“Originalism” - and I’m referring to the judicial philosophy of that name - is a fucking lie. It is likely the most “decide the result you want, then cherry pick the support for it” approach out there.
A good judge is willing to teach results he doesn’t like/doesnt agree with. “Originalists” somehow magically always reach the result they want because gosh darn it, that’s what the founders wanted!
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3 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

No. There is no "get" on this, nor is there justification. I may be two martinis deep tonight on my thought process, but the idea that modern day judges "get" anything on the founders is just bullshit. They want to manipulate what they want by cherry picking phrases in order to use their power to enforce what they have deemed is what the founders wanted. As if.

I understand your point, but they, like other originalists, conveniently ignore that which they proclaim to be fact is rather subjective and that they only hold that power because we have "given" it to them. Because we are stupid. So, uh, yeah.

Mrs. Whiggins needs to calm down.

No, you are duly right to be frustrated.  Like most fathers who are trying their level best, I assume there'd be time for conversations with my daughter about stuff like this down the road.  But my daughter's class was featured on KXAN this morning and then immediately roll into a story about the Arizona abortion law.  And they show the Trump clip after that.  And she naturally asks, "What's an 'abortion' and why are there so many stories about it?"  So we did a cursory discussion of it before she headed off to school a few minutes after.  But wife and I talked about how we talk about this with her going forward (she's only 9 but as we've seen there are 10 year olds forced to carry babies to term).  Wife is old school midwestern Catholic but has come around a little bit on the subject.  I'm an asshole but my opinion has been, of course I don't want her being sexually promiscuous because that could entail things like STD's and interstate abortions and what-not.  But I want her to have access to quality health care at all times and to have agency over her own body.  Anyway, it's a whole bag of shit we gotta unpack in our household.  As is happening all across our country these days.  So as I''m about to lose my shit right before we head off to school, she replays the segment with her class and I didn't notice the segue was "Arizona Abortion law from 1864........"  And my oldest goes, "Whoah Daddy, that's even older than you."  And we had a good laugh.  For now.  \

The legal justification and codification for this subjugation of women is going to continue for another 20 years before it gets better again.  I grew up around very strong women and married to the strongest person I've ever known.  She just happens to be a gorgeous woman.  My daughters are strong but I worry on a weekly basis on what's coming as this twisted effort takes its dying breaths because they're coming of age under its thumb.  What worries me just as much as that assholes like me are helping take the watch.  When people like me are standing a post in this battle, that means shit's gonna get worse before it gets better.  Once again, my prize lack of imagination. 

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I watched the video above by @chainsaw and Michael Knowles would benefit from a course in the appropriate use of how one uses air quotes. His technique is so poor. How can he claim to be a RW "conservative" if he cannot coordinate his hands to properly and emphatically use air quotes? I mean, come on. You just lift the hands and use the fingers and 'air quote' as you're speaking. Don't half ass it Michael. Lean into it.

Also, 1220 is the supposed year that Ghengis Kahn and his army took Bukhara after laying seige to it causing 30,000 civilian deaths. Knowles probably sees himself as some sort of pasha but he's more like the weird foot fetish guy in House of the Dragon.

 

Finally, @YGIFS you responded as I was typing and my apologies for lashing out; I know you are trying to raise your family in what is rapidly becoming a period in history where women stand to lose so much in what turned out to be a short short period of time where they (and society) could perhaps realize just how much they can offer the world beyond what men have deemed acceptable for them to do.

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20 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I watched the video above by @chainsaw and Michael Knowles would benefit from a course in the appropriate use of how one uses air quotes. His technique is so poor. How can he claim to be a RW "conservative" if he cannot coordinate his hands to properly and emphatically use air quotes? I mean, come on. You just lift the hands and use the fingers and 'air quote' as you're speaking. Don't half ass it Michael. Lean into it.

Also, 1220 is the supposed year that Ghengis Kahn and his army took Bukhara after laying seige to it causing 30,000 civilian deaths. Knowles probably sees himself as some sort of pasha but he's more like the weird foot fetish guy in House of the Dragon.

 

Finally, @YGIFS you responded as I was typing and my apologies for lashing out; I know you are trying to raise your family in what is rapidly becoming a period in history where women stand to lose so much in what turned out to be a short short period of time where they (and society) could perhaps realize just how much they can offer the world beyond what men have deemed acceptable for them to do.

No apology necessary.  It is just surreal to me how quickly I'm seeing all of this eviscerated.  Obviously there were other fish to fry (equal pay, addressing domestic violence, STEM access, sexual assault, etc.).  But overall, I looked at my two munchkins and thought, "You gals have the world on a string.  Excellent education, great city of Austin to live in, good health care, treated as equals, probably to get to be one of the 60% of the UT student population that is female one day, aren't growing up around a household or community of violence against women, never be ashamed of your bodies, get to take away lessons of love and faith from Church instead of shame and less-than.  And then I blinked and half of that shit is gone already.  And it's gonna take us 10x as long to rebuild it this time.  

But there are four over-arching themes to me in all this, and they all baffle me and I got jackshit ideas for solutions:

"Religion."  Sometimes it's a legit belief, however twisted but it actually does live in many people's hearts.  I don't agree, but you can change opinions but it's very hard to change souls.  Often it's a curtain to hide behind to visit pain upon people who do things you're not comfortable with.  This unfortunately colors our politics more than it should.  But we gotta acknowledge that's largely not gonna go away any time soon.  Call it the Faithful Patriarchy.  It's fucked up, but it hasn't gone anywhere in dozens of centuries and it ain't going anywhere in our lifetimes.  

"I can't have a nice woman so to hell with them all."  This one seems to be getting worse.  It's always been the case for many men to be in a relationship with a woman they don't particularly prefer, or in no relationship at all.  Or no prospects even.  Been the case since the dawn of time.  But with the rise of cable news and social media, they are constantly reminded of how good the rest of us have it with wonderful women, and how they are left behind when it comes to pair-bonding.  And many of them have grown up and gotten elected for some reason.  And they run on "more predictable regulations and liberties" and then immediately target women and children to control.    

The Constitutional and State caselaw arguments.  "This is obviously what these wise men from hundreds of years ago meant by abortion when they used to literally throw a woman down a flight of stairs."

This one takes zero accountability from asshole males.  But other women.  Women vote for lower taxes, school choice, less crime, border security.  I understand.  But to vote in such a way as to prevent the woman next to you from having access to quality health care and agency over her body, I just don't get that one.  Like George Costanza, I basically know nothing about women other than I love them.  But how they can do this to one another.  It's beyond the pale.  Again, taking no fault from us guys.  But like, "I'm voting this way bitch so they don't come and take my guns!"  It's dumb, but it happens.  But to look at another woman and say, "Free mammograms at Planned Parenthood or terminate an unviable fetus or one from a rape, fuck you sister!"   For a voting bloc so obsessed with "There are only men & women, this other gender stuff is bullshit"..........they are awfully quick to forget their biological connection to other "Women" and try and protect what they have in common.  /rant 

 

 
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3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Why not?  Our idiotic supreme court cited a guy who sent women to their death for witchcraft.  

Our Supreme Court decides things based on events that didn’t actually happen 

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5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Our Supreme Court decides things based on events that didn’t actually happen 

So does the gop

 

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16 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Why not?  Our idiotic supreme court cited a guy who sent women to their death for witchcraft.  

They weren't Witches!  They were ANTIFA!  

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3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

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Bingo,  they talked a lot of bullshit to their base to get them excited about banning abortion, but when it actually happens and they realize the impact it will have come this November, they start shitting their pants. 

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A couple, two-three things here.

Since she is assisting in hurting other women, I can insult her looks.  That Senior Adviser in the top clip.  She's not a woman, she's a thumb with a wig on it.  I do the same thing puppet show for my girls all the time. 

Second, I'm watching the background of that Priest talking with Lake about women's rights.  The creepy wooden privacy partition, and the weird photo of Trump and I thought, "Yep, this guy totally molests kids." 

Then I look at the creepy leather jacket from "Fast Times" and thought this guy is like the Frank Stallone of the Clergy.  Typical Lobo reference to Frank based on that oft-used photo of him with the leather jacket that Norm would always use.  And I finally got around to getting past the dialogue and backgrounds and look at the chyron.  Guy's name is fucking Frank Davone.  Seriously?  Maybe you guys aren't living inside a computer, but I am.  And for now, you're stuck in here with me.

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13 hours ago, Nivek said:

Why not?  Our idiotic supreme court cited a guy who sent women to their death for witchcraft.  

“Well, if they didn’t do witchcraft, they probably did something else... “

- Clarence Thomas, probably. 

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Go HEB. Fuck MAGAts.

https://www.chron.com/culture/article/opill-birth-control-heb-19381763.php

As reproductive health care sees strict restrictions in Texas, a daily birth control pill is now available without a prescription at major retailers, including H-E-B. 

Known as Opill, the birth control hit shelves in monthly and three-month packs for $20 and $50, respectively. Perrigo, the company behind Opill, also sells the contraceptive online in six-month supplies. 

Though it is the first birth control pill in the U.S. that has been approved for use without a prescription, Opill isn’t a new birth control. The drug substance, a hormone known as norgestrel, originally received approval for prescription use in 1973, the FDA notes. 

Shipments of Opill started in early March, and it’s since been spotted at an H-E-B in San Antonio. In the Houston area, it’s listed as available at the H-E-B on Washington Ave. near Downtown and others in city limits, as well as stores in Katy and Pearland. The H-E-B app also lists Opill as available at stores in Austin, the Rio Grande Valley and Dallas suburb McKinney. Outside of H-E-B, Texans may also spot Opill at CVS, which said it would stock the pills at 7,500 of its pharmacy stores early this month. 

 

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Can’t wait for a bunch of Karen’s to get filmed buying it all to burn or some freak show pastor stomping on them in big ugly cowboy boots  

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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Can’t wait for a bunch of Karen’s to get filmed buying it all to burn or some freak show pastor stomping on them in big ugly cowboy boots  

MAGA will absolutely, 100%, declare war on HEB.  It's coming.  Between that, and Charles Butt opposing school vouchers, the war is coming for sure.  You can't stop it.  They turn on everyone, eventually.  

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Are HEB's legs even open?  /surlyDT

Given the history of the Butt family, I really did not see this coming on their part.  It's like Dan Patrick's salute to DeSantis' war on Disney.  

But HEB's support of education and communities is unparalleled in our state.  Plus I love their deli.  There is absolutely going to be a bat-shit crazy right wing assault on them later this year.  But a lotta hard-right folks need to remember something.  In many, many dozens of Texas counties.  The three largest employers are school districts (hence even many rural/exurban Republicans not going along with Abbott's voucher plan, local hospital groups, and H-E-(fucking)B.  You wanna start pissing away legislative gravitas, that's not a great opening trifecta.  It's going to get worse for Texas before it gets better, but in chess-to appease your pawns you don't just piss away the Queen and Rooks out of the gate.  But that's what the Texas GOP wants to do.  May as well mandate beans in our chili and ketchup on our brisket and no queso before noon.  We know why they're doing this, they know why they're doing this, and as much as y'all like to dismiss them---sooner or later---a bunch of their base is gonna catch on because of what these three institutions (schools, hospitals, grocery stores) mean to their communities.  If they don't work there themselves, somebody close to them does.  Sooner or later, people vote their pocketbook and their family/neighborhood.  

What a timeline...

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I'm not that optimistic about the Texas electorate "waking up" anytime soon. The Republicans can shut down their publicly funded jobs and schools, fuck up HEB, take away their Social Security, and more... and those voters will just blame it on immigrants, minorities, liberals, OBAMA, or whatever strawman Trump et al designate as the target.

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49 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

There is absolutely going to be a bat-shit crazy right wing assault on them later this year.

HEB would be smart to ban concealed carry, because it's going to be contentious.  They already ban open carry.

God I love HEB. 

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