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9 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

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Most people fucking hate when Trump speaks.  His disappearance from most forms of social media has 1) allowed Republicans (and the media, if we are being honest) to focus on attacking Biden without having to worry about putting out "Trump said something insane" fires and 2) allowed Trump to inadvertently repair his image with the mainstream Republican voters.

Sure, he's still putting out those word salad statements daily but it currently takes something truly unhinged to break into the actual news cycle.

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18 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

If I didn’t have the right to murder 500 hookers, process their bodies into a meat paste, and then sell the prostitute sludge as McRibs, then why did legislatures pass laws against that, huh?  Actually, what it means is that I did have that right and now Big Government is trying to oppress me by taking it away.

You sure you didn’t already do this? Last McRib I ate did have a little bit of a wang to it. 

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2 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

One thing you need to understand about Trump is he is a coward at heart and cowards always back down. He’s a cornered rat right now so he’s lashing out. 

2 hours ago, 6th Street said:

I love how Don has doubled down on lunacy instead of just shutting up and letting Biden just trip over his own dick. 

This can't be stated enough.  Absolute coward.

He's cornered by the civil and legal stuff in NYC and Georgia, the Jan 6 Committee, and then he's worried about DeSantis as well.  He's scared that more Republicans in Congress will turn on him, hence his trying to keep Mitch and McCarthy on short leashes, and lashing out at them at the barest scent of disloyalty.

These rallies maybe about the grift, but they are also about reassuring himself that his followers still love him, especially in light of the boos he received over the vaccine comments.  And he's trying to scare people who want him prosecuted into thinking that if he's prosecuted in any way, there will be hell to pay.

 

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10 hours ago, Blotto said:

For awhile they let the tail wag the dog, because it seemed to be working out better than what they had been doing. "Sure Trump is a lying psychopath (Cruz and others said as much multiple times during the 2016 primary season), is a narcissist entirely motivated by his own well-being, has a complete disregard for truth and lives in an alternate reality, and has a room temperature IQ,  but hey.....he gets votes, and Hillary had those emails."   Then the tail became the dog.

The party and its voting block have been taken over by fucking morons. They will assemble by the thousands in hopes that JFK Jr will return to lead them to the promised land. An ever increasing number of elected GOP politicians are posting social media content armed to the teeth like Rambo and talking about armed conflict.  And nobody from GOP leadership will stand up and say  "you guys are fucking morons, stop with the ridiculous conspiracy theories, stop with the racism, stop with the revolution bullshit,"  because that discourse appeals to an ever increasing number of GOP voters, and they need every one of those votes. Liberalism and democrats have literally become evil incarnate to the vast majority of the GOP.

There is no desire for bipartisanship in the GOP, in truth its the opposite. They have to perpetuate the lie that the majority of the country did in fact vote for Trump to bolster the "movement's " validity. Because fat donnie didnt win, the path forward is to convince the rubes that the Democrats stole the election. Democrats = enemy of democracy. You cant make that the backbone of your party platform and then turn around the next day and work together on immigration or health care reform. There is zero evidence of election fraud, and I doubt any of those fucknuts would go under oath and claim as much, but that doesnt stop them from promoting that bullshit. There simply is no place in the party for people who think otherwise. Its why the Kinzinger's of the world are forced to announce they will no longer seek re-election once  they speak against this lunacy. there is no place in the GQP for them. 

Without the peaceful transition of power from one administration to the next, a democracy is worthless. The GOP is extinguishing democracy with its relentless drive to overturn the election, because that's preferable than having democrats in charge. Look at their rhetoric. Its a lost cause.  They elected to chase the nuclear option, and now no matter what happens in the midterms or the 24 elections, etc... the country suffers because contesting elections has become the norm. The party either self-immolates or they win back power and continue to rachet up the lunacy. Hoping they meander back to the middle seems like a lost cause. They are all in on idiocy as evidenced by the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated rubes

 

 

Republicans lost all their cases filed because they didn't have proof of voter fraud, and some of those losses were in front of judges appointed by Trump.  Which is why they try everything in the court of public opinion, where they don't have to provide proof/evidence and can just rely on their voter's biases.  Public opinion spins its own reality because the facts don't suit them.  They're passing Democracy (voter but let's not sugar coat it any longer) restricting laws without any evidence--they created a problem relying on their solution to destroy a system that no longer works in their favor.  It doesn't work against them, but can't be reliably trusted and they sure as hell can't run on their own fetid selfish merits.  Vote for me, I've declared bankruptcy and dodged the draft over half a dozen times each, have had multiple spouses and ties to whores and the Kremlin and eschew allies for fascist dictators.  Nope, that's going to require a lot of cheating to sell that tub of shit.   Good thing there's a party for that.   

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For awhile they let the tail wag the dog, because it seemed to be working out better than what they had been doing. "Sure Trump is a lying psychopath (Cruz and others said as much multiple times during the 2016 primary season), is a narcissist entirely motivated by his own well-being, has a complete disregard for truth and lives in an alternate reality, and has a room temperature IQ,  but hey.....he gets votes, and Hillary had those emails."   Then the tail became the dog.
The party and its voting block have been taken over by fucking morons. They will assemble by the thousands in hopes that JFK Jr will return to lead them to the promised land. An ever increasing number of elected GOP politicians are posting social media content armed to the teeth like Rambo and talking about armed conflict.  And nobody from GOP leadership will stand up and say  "you guys are fucking morons, stop with the ridiculous conspiracy theories, stop with the racism, stop with the revolution bullshit,"  because that discourse appeals to an ever increasing number of GOP voters, and they need every one of those votes. Liberalism and democrats have literally become evil incarnate to the vast majority of the GOP.
There is no desire for bipartisanship in the GOP, in truth its the opposite. They have to perpetuate the lie that the majority of the country did in fact vote for Trump to bolster the "movement's " validity. Because fat donnie didnt win, the path forward is to convince the rubes that the Democrats stole the election. Democrats = enemy of democracy. You cant make that the backbone of your party platform and then turn around the next day and work together on immigration or health care reform. There is zero evidence of election fraud, and I doubt any of those fucknuts would go under oath and claim as much, but that doesnt stop them from promoting that bullshit. There simply is no place in the party for people who think otherwise. Its why the Kinzinger's of the world are forced to announce they will no longer seek re-election once  they speak against this lunacy. there is no place in the GQP for them. 
Without the peaceful transition of power from one administration to the next, a democracy is worthless. The GOP is extinguishing democracy with its relentless drive to overturn the election, because that's preferable than having democrats in charge. Look at their rhetoric. Its a lost cause.  They elected to chase the nuclear option, and now no matter what happens in the midterms or the 24 elections, etc... the country suffers because contesting elections has become the norm. The party either self-immolates or they win back power and continue to rachet up the lunacy. Hoping they meander back to the middle seems like a lost cause. They are all in on idiocy as evidenced by the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated rubes
 
 

Everything about this is spot on.  Everything.


This. It’s perfect. Wish I could rep it twice.
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8 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

White supremacy and racism finally losing in this country and it finally reaching its potential was always going to be messy. We get to witness it and who ultimately wins out. 

How is it losing?  A clock is ticking and unless charges get released fairly soon, there's about to be a turnover that will reset the committees.  Nothing in government acts with a swiftness except for the military.  In the meantime, with a minority in power, they're managing to bolster their voters while disenfranchising whole voting blocks and openly threatening any opposition.  They seem like they're doing ok and until the Left get's a spine, which they've lacked along with any long term cohesiveness, Democracy is draining like an hourglass.  When and if this pops, it's going to have to be all units on go for a solid sweep, not some half assed operation that picks up some outliers, which is difficult to imagine Democrats successfully pulling off.  

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4 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

How is it losing?  A clock is ticking and unless charges get released fairly soon, there's about to be a turnover that will reset the committees.  Nothing in government acts with a swiftness except for the military.  In the meantime, with a minority in power, they're managing to bolster their voters while disenfranchising whole voting blocks while openly threatening any opposition.  They seem like they're doing ok and until the Left get's a spine, which they've lacked along with any long term cohesiveness, Democracy is draining like an hourglass.  When and if this pops, it's going to have to be all units on go for a solid sweep, not some half assed operation that picks up some outliers, which is difficult to image Democrats successfully pulling off.  

To be fair, though, we don't know what DOJ is doing.  Prosecutors, by and large, don't work out in the open.  The Committee seems to be doing a pretty good job at rounding up the suspects and getting their documents and records, to the extent the DOJ hasn't.  But we wouldn't know if DOJ had or had not, regardless.

And DOJ is pursuing the actual rioters themselves, including some top dogs, which is probably something the Committee can't do very well inasmuch as they can't charge anyone and extract information in return for leniency.  So you have two investigative bodies converging on the same answers, whatever they are.

The Committee has another year to work, and, if it gets dissolved, DOJ can take over, and will, most likely, whether the Committee is dissolved or not.  The Committee has no power to bring charges.  About the most the Committee can do is bring to light facts so heinous that a reluctant DOJ is forced to prosecute.  But there's no reason to believe the DOJ is reluctant.

To repeat:  Prosecutors, most especially the federal ones, don't tell the public what they're doing until indictments are filed.  Prosecutors are the ones we really need to worry about, not the Committee.  And it is foolish to take prosecutors' silence as evidence of inaction.

Chill out.  The rule of law that we claim to love so much grinds pretty deliberately for good reason.

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13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

To be fair, though, we don't know what DOJ is doing.  Prosecutors, by and large, don't work out in the open.  The Committee seems to be doing a pretty good job at rounding up the suspects and getting their documents and records, to the extent the DOJ hasn't.  But we wouldn't know if DOJ had or had not, regardless.

And DOJ is pursuing the actual rioters themselves, including some top dogs, which is probably something the Committee can't do very well inasmuch as they can't charge anyone and extract information in return for leniency.  So you have two investigative bodies converging on the same answers, whatever they are.

The Committee has another year to work, and, if it gets dissolved, DOJ can take over, and will, most likely, whether the Committee is dissolved or not.  The Committee has no power to bring charges.  About the most the Committee can do is bring to light facts so heinous that a reluctant DOJ is forced to prosecute.  But there's no reason to believe the DOJ is reluctant.

To repeat:  Prosecutors, most especially the federal ones, don't tell the public what they're doing until indictments are filed.  Prosecutors are the ones we really need to worry about, not the Committee.  And it is foolish to take prosecutors' silence as evidence of inaction.

Chill out.  The rule of law that we claim to love so much grinds pretty deliberately for good reason.

True but it's difficult not to be apprehensive after watching Mueller punt to Congress on what we thought was a slam dunk and they completely lost the message. In short order, Barr wound up leading the DOJ. The rule of law was blatantly disregarded, continues and new laws to derail Democracy are getting passed presently.  I really want to believe because it has to for the Republic's survival.       

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11 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

SCOTUS jumped right quick to nix vaccine mandates.

Lickity split. 

I also want to believe SCOTUS wouldn't want to be in the books for allowing the fall of Democracy but would SCOTUS allow elections to be overturned?  They left it up to the states for gerrymandering and allowed dark money into elections, so fair and honest elections doesn't seem high on their list.  Or maybe they're all in on rewriting history books.  I just hope more people wake up or the other camp willfully killing themselves with covid accelerates.   

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21 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

I also want to believe SCOTUS wouldn't want to be in the books for allowing the fall of Democracy but would SCOTUS allow elections to be overturned?  They left it up to the states for gerrymandering and allowed dark money into elections, so fair and honest elections doesn't seem high on their list.  Or maybe they're all in on rewriting history books.  I just hope more people wake up or the other camp willfully killing themselves with covid accelerates.   

We'll know for sure when the CRT cases start being heard.  This group is likely to hand down another Dred Scott type decision.

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12 hours ago, Red Five said:

So, Trump told his followers to riot if anything bad happens to him, while also saying he'll pardon the 1/6 rioters. Hmm. What to take away from that..

Yeah Fulton County sent a letter to the FBI asking for assistance because it kind of sounds like Trump wants another 1/6 there if he's convicted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/31/willis-fbi-help-trump-comments/

He's 75 years old and is not particularly healthy (it does seem like being out of the office has been good for him).  This country could legitimately explode if anything happened medically. 

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7 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

True but it's difficult not to be apprehensive after watching Mueller punt to Congress on what we thought was a slam dunk and they completely lost the message. In short order, Barr wound up leading the DOJ. The rule of law was blatantly disregarded, continues and new laws to derail Democracy are getting passed presently.  I really want to believe because it has to for the Republic's survival.       

It was completely foolish for anyone to believe that Mueller would charge, or recommend criminal charges against the President.  That was not a failure of the rule of law.  You can question the propriety of the policy of not prosecuting a sitting President, but it has been the law for a good long while, endorsed by administrations of both parties.  Disapproval of the law is not a failure of the rule of law.

And, I would submit that impeachment, given its fundamentally political nature, does not represent a failure of the rule of law when it fails.

Both of those are failures by unjustified expectations, not of the rule of law.

And, the Mueller deal has created some unjustified expectations here.  A Special Counsel must make periodic reports to the AG under the current, and most past, rules/laws.   Those are not explicitly public, but have a way of leaking, so the public is far more privy to the progress of a prosecution/investigation by a Special Counsel than the usual case.  Also, in the usual case, prosecutors don't file a comprehensive report of their investigation that is made public.

Also, as to timing.  It took Mueller a year to bring charges for other than lying to him during the investigation (and Manafort and Gates, which I believe we generally agree were under investigation pre-Mueller).  It is flat unreasonable to expect criminal charges to be brought for this when the evidence is just now being uncovered (and we don't know what the DOJ may have been doing in the interim).

I agree that it *appears* based on past events that Donald Trump is going to skate yet again.  But I think when put in a more proper perspective, there is less reason to believe that.

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18 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

It was completely foolish for anyone to believe that Mueller would charge, or recommend criminal charges against the President.  That was not a failure of the rule of law.  You can question the propriety of the policy of not prosecuting a sitting President, but it has been the law for a good long while, endorsed by administrations of both parties.  Disapproval of the law is not a failure of the rule of law.

And, I would submit that impeachment, given its fundamentally political nature, does not represent a failure of the rule of law when it fails.

Both of those are failures by unjustified expectations, not of the rule of law.

And, the Mueller deal has created some unjustified expectations here.  A Special Counsel must make periodic reports to the AG under the current, and most past, rules/laws.   Those are not explicitly public, but have a way of leaking, so the public is far more privy to the progress of a prosecution/investigation by a Special Counsel than the usual case.  Also, in the usual case, prosecutors don't file a comprehensive report of their investigation that is made public.

Also, as to timing.  It took Mueller a year to bring charges for other than lying to him during the investigation (and Manafort and Gates, which I believe we generally agree were under investigation pre-Mueller).  It is flat unreasonable to expect criminal charges to be brought for this when the evidence is just now being uncovered (and we don't know what the DOJ may have been doing in the interim).

I agree that it *appears* based on past events that Donald Trump is going to skate yet again.  But I think when put in a more proper perspective, there is less reason to believe that.

This. Trump was able to skate by with all the illegal shit he was doing because he was the sitting president. That’s why he fought so hard to keep it in the first place. That’s gone now.
 

Before becoming president he was able to skate by because he was rich and the rich don’t get indicted unless it’s a pretty clear cut case. 

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43 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Before becoming president he was able to skate by because he was rich and the rich don’t get indicted unless it’s a pretty clear cut case. 

And that's the most galling thing, because it wasn't just Trump.  But made more galling because Trump.

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8 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

SCOTUS jumped right quick to nix vaccine mandates.

Lickity split. 

For the sake of perspective, the mandate case involved injunctive relief in the district court.  When an injunction (against the mandate) is granted or denied in a district court, that order is immediately appealable.  That's why most of these cases that receive fast review received fast review.  And, while those "shadow docket" decisions touch on the merits of the case, by necessity, they are not quite the same thing as a full review "on the merits."

In the usual case, nothing is appealable until the trial is over and judgment is entered, in most cases years after the case is filed.  That is a full review on the merits.

That is why some things get reviewed pronto, and some things don't.  It's not a matter of choice by the Supreme Court, or any other court.  It's the law.

 

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7 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

He's 75 years old and is not particularly healthy (it does seem like being out of the office has been good for him).  This country could legitimately explode if anything happened medically. 

Don't be silly. We all know the son of a bitch is going to live to 100.

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8 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

He's 75 years old and is not particularly healthy (it does seem like being out of the office has been good for him).  This country could legitimately explode if anything happened medically. 

Come on, he's in incredible shape!  See:

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9 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

He's 75 years old and is not particularly healthy (it does seem like being out of the office has been good for him).  This country could legitimately explode if anything happened medically. 

Yeah, looking at this, it sure doesn't look like he's taking diet and exercise particularly seriously.

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2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

"...the way he built the wall and made Mexico pay for it and threw Hillary in jail! He did that! He said he was going to Drain The Swamp and only 8 or so of his administration or campaign pled guilty or were convicted of crimes. That's probably a record for the least corruption ever. He fixed our crumbling roads and bridges with a beautiful infrastructure bill. Done! Obamacare? Well, bye! Now we got Trumpcare. Promises made! Promises kept! Remember how divided this country was during the Obama years? Well my dad brought this country back together again! TA DA! WE OWN GREENLAND NOW so why don't you suck on that, you blue state fucks!"

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

For the sake of perspective, the mandate case involved injunctive relief in the district court.  When an injunction (against the mandate) is granted or denied in a district court, that order is immediately appealable.  That's why most of these cases that receive fast review received fast review.  And, while those "shadow docket" decisions touch on the merits of the case, by necessity, they are not quite the same thing as a full review "on the merits."

In the usual case, nothing is appealable until the trial is over and judgment is entered, in most cases years after the case is filed.  That is a full review on the merits.

That is why some things get reviewed pronto, and some things don't.  It's not a matter of choice by the Supreme Court, or any other court.  It's the law.

 

Yes.  Some things in government, other than the military, can move quickly. 

Do you think this vaccine mandate injunction will be appealed? I haven’t heard about an appeal, though I miss a lot. Which would be too bad. While I concede Covid might not warrant such an extreme response, my imagination can envision a scenario where that might be necessary.

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20 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

"...the way he built the wall and made Mexico pay for it and threw Hillary in jail! He did that! He said he was going to Drain The Swamp and only 8 or so of his administration or campaign pled guilty or were convicted of crimes. That's probably a record for the least corruption ever. He fixed our crumbling roads and bridges with a beautiful infrastructure bill. Done! Obamacare? Well, bye! Now we got Trumpcare. Promises made! Promises kept! Remember how divided this country was during the Obama years? Well my dad brought this country back together again! TA DA! WE OWN GREENLAND NOW so why don't you suck on that, you blue state fucks!"

Don’t forget shutting down North Korea’s nuclear program and restoring America’s coal and steel industries. 

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2 hours ago, tokamak said:

Don't be silly. We all know the son of a bitch is going to live to 100.

No doubt in my mind. He is overweight, but I'll be honest, he's more energetic than any 75 year old I know.

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17 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Yes.  Some things in government, other than the military, can move quickly. 

Do you think this vaccine mandate injunction will be appealed? I haven’t heard about an appeal, though I miss a lot. Which would be too bad. While I concede Covid might not warrant such an extreme response, my imagination can envision a scenario where that might be necessary.

I assume you refer to Biden's OSHA mandate?
 

Suits were filed in Texas and Ohio, at least, to enjoin (stop enforcement) of the mandate some months ago.  I don't remember how it went in the district courts, but injunctions were granted/denied in both, causing appeals to the 5th and 6th Circuits, one of which upheld the mandate and one of which tossed the mandate.  Those decisions were reviewed in tandem by the Supreme Court a couple of weeks ago, resulting in the upholding of the injunction against the mandate.

It is worth noting that part of every injunction ruling is the "likelihood of success on the merits," so every injunction ruling comments on the validity of the law and facts "on the merits."  But, these injunction rulings are not the final word, legally.  Practically, they probably are, but at least the theoretical possibility exists that the courts reverse themselves and find the mandate valid, or whatever is the main issue "on the merits."

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21 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

I also want to believe SCOTUS wouldn't want to be in the books for allowing the fall of Democracy but would SCOTUS allow elections to be overturned?  They left it up to the states for gerrymandering and allowed dark money into elections, so fair and honest elections doesn't seem high on their list.  Or maybe they're all in on rewriting history books.  I just hope more people wake up or the other camp willfully killing themselves with covid accelerates.   

 

kavanaugh has never read a book, he doesn't give a shit 

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2 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:


Its been 100 years since we’ve seen anything like COVID and since its plagued our world, has become a top 5 killer of our species. Since the US has a low vaccination rate, unhealthy and aging populace, and an inadequate and inequitable healthcare system, we lead the developed world in covid death rate.

Overnight we are not going to improve our population health, but overnight we can best fight covid transmission rate and severity by requiring vaccinations for people at their workplaces. Thus, giving more people a safe place to work. Not everyone can work remotely.

COVID warrants an extreme response when that response saves lives and helps people work and occupy space with others.

We have demonstrated, definitively, that as a species and certainly as a nation, not only can we not unify against any common threat, we will actually fight against each other harder than we fight against the actual threat.

"Don't Look Up" is a fucking documentary.  We are toast.

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This amused me... The name "Robby Starbuck" especially amused me:
 

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A number of Donald Trump supporters have openly disagreed with who he wants elected in Tennessee's 5th Congressional District, believing the former president should have picked Republican congressional candidate Robby Starbuck instead.

On Tuesday, Trump said he "couldn't be happier" about hearing reports that Morgan Ortagus, a former spokeswoman to ex-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, is considering running for the Tennessee seat currently held by veteran Democrat Jim Cooper, who recently announced will not be seeking another term.

In a statement, Trump described Ortagus as an "absolute warrior" for America First and the Make America Great Again movement.


 

"Morgan was fantastic in her role working with Secretary Mike Pompeo at the U.S. State Department and understands the threats posed by China, Russia, Iran and others, and will be tough, not just roll over like the Democrats and RINOs," Trump added.

"She won't bow to the Woke Mob or the Leftist LameStream Media. Morgan Ortagus will have my Complete and Total Endorsement if she decides to run!"


Following the announcement, a number of staunch Trump supporters said they believe he has backed the wrong candidate, and that he should have endorsed Starbuck, the conservative filmmaker who announced his intention to run for Congress last June.

Among those who said Trump should have backed Starbuck was former White House aide Sebastian Gorka and Kari Lake, a Republican gubernatorial candidate in Arizona who has received Trump's endorsement.


In a reply to a Gorka tweet stating "I'm with Robby Starbuck," Lake wrote "Me too."

She added: "Robby Starbuck is one of the top voices in the movement. He is critical to take the Trump Republicans and America First movement to the next level. I fully support him."

In a separate tweet, Lake added: "Robbie Starbuck is a patriot who loves America. I endorsed Robby months ago & believe he's exactly what we need in these difficult times. He's a God-fearing man who loves his wonderful family: he's a true 'citizen politician'. Robby will serve the people of Tennessee well."

North Carolina congressman and Trump ally Madison Cawthorn also said will still back Starbuck, despite the former president potentially going with Ortagus.

"I endorsed Robby Starbuck months ago and I stand by my endorsement," Cawthorn tweeted. "He is the best candidate in the country right now. The MAGA movement needs him in Congress."


Conservative pundit Candace Owens also said that Trump has got his choice "completely wrong" and that Starbuck is the "correct pick for Tennessee's 5th district and Tennesseans have his back."

As well as being a film and music video director, Starbuck, a political novice, is known for accumulating more than 212,000 followers on Twitter where he frequently posts conservative views.

He announced he's running for congress last June with a video endorsement from Kentucky senator Rand Paul.


"I don't endorse many people for Congress, but I'm endorsing Robby Starbuck because he's one of the good guys," Paul said.

According to his website, Starbuck will campaign to end COVID-19 related mandates, "fight to keep Critical Race Theory out of our schools," and support calls for more police funding, rather than having money normally given to law enforcement departments distributed elsewhere.

"I'll fight all of the Marxist forces that want to destroy our way of life and our unique American identity," Starbuck adds. "In short, I'll fight for common sense and American values."

Robby Starbuck:

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