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On 12/30/2023 at 2:54 PM, Getafix said:

Some Arch content ...

Thought this pic was really funny.

(From an article - below - about how the media was all over Arch at media day, and gave Ewers far less attention when Arch was around.)

 

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Full article below - paints a nice, down to earth portrait of Arch.

 

The Sugar Bowl has Arch Madness: Inside Arch Manning's show-stealing introduction in New Orleans

Brandon Marcello (247Sports)

 

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The Sugar Bowl has Arch Madness: Inside Arch Manning's show-stealing introduction in New Orleans

Brandon Marcello (247Sports)
 

NEW ORLEANS — On most days, the starting quarterback at Texas is a superstar, but in the Land of Manning, Quinn Ewers was just another guy Saturday inside the Caesars Superdome.

Arch Manning walked onto the field at the Caesars Superdome in his hometown, found a seat on a bench along the visitor's sideline and before he could remove his hands from his pockets, the freshman was surrounded by 22 reporters. Ewers enjoyed a rare reprieve from the spotlight for the next 38 minutes, entertaining a crowd no larger than three at the Sugar Bowl's media day.

"He can have it all," Ewers joked. "It's nice. I'll take it."


(Texas' QB1 Quinn Ewers took a backseat to Arch Manning at Sugar Bowl Media Days; Photo: USA TODAY Sports)
Two days away from the College Football Playoff semifinal between Texas and Washington, the big story was Manning. He has done nothing substantial yet in his career at Texas, but as the fourth quarterback from the First Family of Football, his lineage has paved a path to celebrity, and championship expectations await the class of 2023's No. 1 recruit whenever he does take over as the Longhorns' starter. The grandson of Archie and nephew of Peyton and Eli can not escape the weight his name carries in New Orleans. The Manning Family is synonymous with football across the planet, but in New Orleans they are royalty. Arch needed only to glance above him if he needed a reminder Saturday. His grandfather's name is high in the rafters of the Superdome as a member of the New Orleans Saints' Ring of Honor. It reminded him also of the advice "Red" gave him Saturday morning.

"My grandfather always likes to say in interviews less is best. Sorry about that, guys," Arch smiled.

Arch followed his grandfather's advice Saturday, offering short answers to long-winded questions just as his uncles Peyton and Eli did throughout their college and NFL careers and finally putting his voice to the transfer rumors that are bound to pop up until Arch becomes a starting QB.

"I mean, there's always rumors especially nowadays. I haven't looked into transferring at all," Manning said. "I'm focused on developing and helping this team anyway I can and one day playing for the University of Texas like I've always wanted to. Sark's one of the realest guys I know. He keeps it 100 with you and that's what I want."

Arch is respectful of his peers and affable in his responses. There is no air of superiority around Arch, even with the cache of three generations of greatness underneath his wings.

"There is good and bad to it," Arch said. "The bad thing is you're kinda recognized a lot of places you go and sometimes you just want to be laid back and undercover, but there's a lot of good to it. I get a lot of Grade A advice."

Arch has a difficult time telling people "no." He is often asked by classmates to pose for photos at Texas. During his first week on campus in January, a classmate discovered Arch's lost student ID, and a picture of the card was plastered all over social media by the student. "As long as you're a good guy, I'll talk to you all day," Arch said. "I think I've gotten better at saying no to some autographs because I'm not allowed to sign."

Arch aims to please to a fault, his high school coach Nelson Stewart said. It's why Cooper Manning, Arch's father, enlisted the help of Peyton and Eli, along with Stewart, to guide him through an insane, four-year recruiting process at Isidore Newman High School that saw the Longhorns win out for Arch over Georgia and Alabama. Peyton secretly shared ideas for drills and offered notes from film cut-ups during the season. "He didn't want anyone to know, but it was so helpful," Stewart said. Archie helped with Arch's mechanics, taking notes on his iPhone to share with Stewart.

Meanwhile, up to 30 college coaches each day wanted to speak to Arch, but no coach — not even the invincible Nick Saban — had direct access to him. Stewart filtered all recruiting calls and welcomed every coach into his office before they were allowed to speak to Arch. One day seven coaches had to be squeezed into a 30-minute break between classes. Some were turned away.

"They would just keep coming," Stewart told 247Sports this week. "It was my life. It was like a '30 for 30.'"

One powerful Power Five head coach sat in Stewart's office for three hours waiting for an opportunity to speak to Manning for a few minutes. Stewart didn't want to share the coach's name and embarrass him.

"The biggest reason why I was always so protective of him is because he's such a good kid," Stewart said. "He's somebody with that last name, and then you see him throw a football once, you can see a silhouette and know it was him. He's grown up with so much scrutiny and so much media attention, he has every reason to be a different kind of kid and he isn't."

It's not a surprise to learn Arch, like his uncles and grandfather, is constantly taking notes. He often asked Texas deep snapper Christian Rizzi, a native of nearby Metairie, Louisiana, questions about the Longhorns and the positives and negatives of the university during the recruiting process. "He's always thinking about football," Rizzi said. "But if you talk to him and football is not part of the conversation, he's a normal guy."

He diagrammed plays with Sarkisian over Zoom and FaceTime, including a session when he was babysitting a family friend's child in an arcade, Stewart said.

"I give him a lot of credit, because he operates on a daily basis like [Manning] is not the name on the back of his jersey," Sarkisian said. "He comes to work and works as hard or harder than anybody in our program."

Arch's roommate on road trips is Ewers, whom he constantly pesters with questions. Ewers, in turn, quizzes Arch on plays.

"I've learned a lot from him," Arch said. "He's just a good dude. I like the way he attacks his preparation and carries himself because he was a big-time recruit. He doesn't get into all the media and goes about his business and works very hard."

Manning was elevated to Ewers' backup after spending the regular season on the third team behind Maalik Murphy. Murphy departed the program and transferred to Duke after the Big 12 Championship, leaving Manning as the primary backup for the playoffs.

What's the difference today knowing he is one play away from being thrown on the field?

"I've gotten that question from my dad, too," Arch said. "I've tried the whole time to prepare like I'm the starter. That was the advice Peyton and Eli gave me before the season."

What Manning could provide Texas remains to be seen, but expectations are obviously high. Stewart, who played alongside Peyton and Cooper at Isidore Newman in the early 1990s, believes Arch is more athletic and nimble than his uncles, and his throwing motion is unmatched.

"He can get the ball out faster than any quarterback I've ever seen," Stewart said. "He doesn't even need to set his feet. It's almost art the way it comes off. I heard coaches when they were recruiting him say, when you stand behind him, you can hear it. It's a hiss that goes off the football."

The list of superlatives and high school accolades is long, but Manning is short on experience at Texas. He made his debut Nov. 24 to the delight of a punch-drunk home crowd at Darrell K Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium, completing 2 of 5 passes for 30 yards in a 57-7 beatdown of Texas Tech. Manning flashed his wheels and his arm talent in mop-up duty, but the next pass will be the biggest of his life.

"Just stick with the process," he said. "My time, whenever that may be, it's coming."

 

 

 

 

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Anyone can play well for a weekend. The list of camp heroes who don’t love football who then flameout in college is long. 
Allegedly, Bo Davis was never high on the recruit. The mother admonished him about his rant on the bus at ISU that helped save Sarkisian’s regime and asked if that was going to be the attitude in which Davis managed her sweet boy while at practice. She’s in education and had her son stay back and not graduate early so he could have a full final year with mommy. He didn’t destroy opponents during his senior year. 
If the guy winds up crushing it at LSU and having a big NFL career, you and a bunch of posters who never post shit on the recruiting board until they can tell us we were wrong and meanies for being wrong can come on here and tell us as much. 
If the guy winds up at Texas, I stand by my view. I expect him to be somewhere between a bust and an average college DT wherever he winds up. That isn’t worth a 5 star ranking or any NIL. 


Sir, I post shit on the recruiting board, thank you.
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8 hours ago, closetojumping said:

It’s not “copium” when it is discussed ahead of the guy ever making a commitment decision at a time when the $9.95ers were telling us that Texas leads. That “word” is dorky social media shit in the first place and you didn’t even use it here correctly when you felt the need to insert it. 

Anyone can play well for a weekend. The list of camp heroes who don’t love football who then flameout in college is long. 

Allegedly, Bo Davis was never high on the recruit. The mother admonished him about his rant on the bus at ISU that helped save Sarkisian’s regime and asked if that was going to be the attitude in which Davis managed her sweet boy while at practice. She’s in education and had her son stay back and not graduate early so he could have a full final year with mommy. He didn’t destroy opponents during his senior year. 

If the guy winds up crushing it at LSU and having a big NFL career, you and a bunch of posters who never post shit on the recruiting board until they can tell us we were wrong and meanies for being wrong can come on here and tell us as much. 

If the guy winds up at Texas, I stand by my view. I expect him to be somewhere between a bust and an average college DT wherever he winds up. That isn’t worth a 5 star ranking or any NIL. 

She sounds like a helicopter mom.  Crazy to think how Coburn, Sweat etc have talk about how Bo has changed their lives and how he’s made them love football…. Only for her to send her kid to a coach that killed a kid and a con artist in Jimbo.  She sounds like a moron…

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31 minutes ago, victory88 said:

She sounds like a helicopter mom.  Crazy to think how Coburn, Sweat etc have talk about how Bo has changed their lives and how he’s made them love football…. Only for her to send her kid to a coach that killed a kid and a con artist in Jimbo.  She sounds like a moron…

She sounds like someone who dislikes women romancing each other.

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plus the 6 or 7 million a year on their books to jimbo for the next 7? years has to affect their ability to spend in other areas. There’s no way they just eat that money without some belt tightening, irrespective of what they might state publicly. 
Don't forget they're supposed to break ground on aggy Disneyland soon, and I don't think all the funding for that is in yet.
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13 hours ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

She sounds like someone who dislikes women romancing each other.

All I could ever think about, after reading that kid’s supposed opposition to women romancing each other, was the scene where Jerry (playing the part of the OU kid) tells George he’s not going to participate in the ménage, which George’s advice set into motion, and George (playing the part of Surly) is rightfully incensed and outraged…

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(Sadly I can’t find a gif for the best part of this exchange, where George yells at the top of his lungs, “ARE YOU CRAZY!?!?” J. Alexander nails the stunned/confused/outraged reaction there.)

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Alabama did not lose a position coach to ATM for a lateral move.  If Saban wanted him to stay, they would have made it happen.  With no inside info, I am 99% positive he got told to find a new job.

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4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Alabama did not lose a position coach to ATM for a lateral move.  If Saban wanted him to stay, they would have made it happen.  With no inside info, I am 99% positive he got told to find a new job.

Sorta how they got Jimbo. Not wanted at his current position; A&M considers getting him a huge coup.

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1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

Don't care, got H-Wig

"Do you raise Ben Davis, or do you sag Dickies H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy

Does your bitch got your name tattooed on her titty H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy

Do you bump 2Pac, or do you bump Biggie H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy

Do you sleep with your wife or with a nine milli H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy"

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I assume live commitments at the games this week are still a thing. Is anyone that is announcing considering us? 
Still a thing, but not as big as it used to be with bagmen making a drop right before the ALL-star game and parents looking shocked and surprised when the "wrong" cap is chosen.
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17 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

"Do you raise Ben Davis, or do you sag Dickies H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy

Does your bitch got your name tattooed on her titty H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy

Do you bump 2Pac, or do you bump Biggie H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy

Do you sleep with your wife or with a nine milli H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy, H-Wiggy"

The guy is a child raping piece of shit who should be castrated. Also, one of his songs came on one of my channels last night and they're still pretty solid.

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Maybe he'll go to blowU next.
Seems like anywhere but Texas, makes no sense. He and Bo have some sort of misunderstanding? Maybe Bo was tired the day McKinley visited and he mistook him for one of the jag DT's already on the team and told him "get out my face and hop in the motherfucker!"
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1 hour ago, CosmoDog said:
Maybe he'll go to blowU next.

Seems like anywhere but Texas, makes no sense. He and Bo have some sort of misunderstanding? Maybe Bo was tired the day McKinley visited and he mistook him for one of the jag DT's already on the team and told him "get out my face and hop in the motherfucker!"

Not this again.

We moved on. CTJ may know whether or not we would accept his commitment. But, the staff isn't pushing for him. Let's leave it at that - he has the measurables but he doesn't seem to have the drive and mom wants him coddled. 

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Not this again.
We moved on. CTJ may know whether or not we would accept his commitment. But, the staff isn't pushing for him. Let's leave it at that - he has the measurables but he doesn't seem to have the drive and mom wants him coddled. 
The last part won't happen with Bo as his coach, explains a lot. Kid is probably gonna be shocked into reality no matter where he lands. To be clear, I wasn't upset at losing McKinley, just didn't make sense why it seemed he was looking for a reason to not come to Texas.
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7 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

In the game on now?

It's on ESPN.  Ryan Williams just scored a TD...

and now he just threw for a 2pt conversion

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Team Fire Numerical Roster

0 Jerod Smith DL – Kentucky
0 Chanz Wiggins WR – Virginia Tech
1 Micah Hudson WR – Texas Tech
1 Xavier Filsaime DB – Texas
2 Dylan Stewart DL – South Carolina
2 Derek Lagway QB – Florida
3 Ryan Pellum WR – Oregon
3 Jalyn Crawford DB – Auburn
4 Mike Matthews WR – Tennessee
4 Justin Williams LB – Georgia
5 Jordan Ross DL – Tennessee
6 Aaron Chiles Jr. LB – Florida
6 Ethan Grunkemeyer QB – Penn State
7 Jaylen Heyward DB – Central Florida
7 Kylan Fox TE – Central Florida
8 Perry Thompson WR – Auburn
8 Corian Gipson DB – Clemson
9 A’mon Lane-Ganus DB – Auburn
10 Kaleb Beasley DB – Tennessee
10 Dante Reno QB – South Carolina
11 Jamonta Waller DL – Auburn
12 Ellis Robinson IV DB – Georgia
12 Jalewis Solomon DB – South Carolina
14 Jacob Smith DL – Kentucky
15 Myles Graham LB – Florida
16 Mason Love K/P – South Carolina
17 Demello Jones DB – Georgia
19 Bryant Wesco WR – Clemson
21 Tavoy Feagin DB – Clemson
22 Kobe Black DB – Texas
22 Peyton Lewis RB – Tennessee
23 Cameron Coleman WR – Auburn
23 Jordon Johnson-Rubell DB – Texas
24 Kameron Davis RB – Florida State
24 Brayshon Williams DB
26 Kevin Riley RB – Alabama
32 Khristian Dunbar-Hawkins DB – UCLA
33 Towns McGough K/P
42 Aydin Breland DL – Oregon
44 Kristopher Jones LB – Georgia
52 Brian Robinson DL – Kentucky
54 Adarius Hayes LB – Miami
54 Blake Ivy OL – Texas A&M
54 Ziron Brown OL – Stanford
56 Kavion Henderson DL – Arkansas
62 Kyle Altuner OL – West Virginia
71 Ray’Quan Bell OL – Houston
72 Isaiah Garcia OL – Utah
72 Joshua Raymond OL – Vanderbilt
73 Rustin Young OL – Michigan State
74 Jonathan Daniels OL – Florida State
75 Jason Zandamela OL – USC
77 Kam Pringle OL – South Carolina
77 Makai Saina OL – USC
79 Donovan Harbour OL – Penn State
81 Debron Gatling WR – South Carolina
82 Davon Mitchell TE – Oklahoma
87 Alan Soukup LS
88 Jack Ressler WR – Oregon
91 Emmett Laws DL – Virginia Tech
96 Dominick McKinley DL – Texas A&M
99 Joseph Jonah-Ajonye DL – Georgia

Team Ice Numerical Roster

0 Jaqualin Birdsong LB – Central Florida
1 Joshisa Trader WR – Miami
1 Aaron Scott Jr. DB – Ohio State
2 Chris Cole LB – Georgia
2 Jerrick Gibson RB – Texas
3 Michael Van Buren Jr. QB – Mississippi State
3 Jaydan Hardy DB – Oklahoma
4 Ryan Williams WR – Alabama
4 Booker Pickett Jr. DL – Miami
5 Williams Nwaneri DL – Missouri
5 Braylon Burnside WR – 166
6 Mylan Graham WR – Ohio State
6 Cayden Jones LB – Alabama
7 Caleb Odom WR – Alabama
7 Ify Obidegwu DB – Oregon
7 Michael Smith TE – South Carolina
8 Colin Simmons DL – Texas
8 Elija Lofton TE – Miami
9 Jaylen Mbakwe DB – Alabama
9 Julian Sayin QB – Alabama
10 Davi Belfort QB – Virginia Tech
11 Kamarion Franklin DL – Ole Miss
11 Cedrick Bailey QB – NC State
12 Mario Craver WR – Mississippi State
13 Ernest Willor Jr DL – Wisconsin
13 Jeremiah McClellan WR – Oregon
14 Jonathan Paylor WR – NC State
15 Dealyn Evans DL – Texas A&M
16 Lawayne McCoy WR – Florida State
17 Zina Umeozulu DL – Texas
18 Joseph Stone Jr. WR – Louisville
18 Zion Ferguson DB – North Carolina
19 King Edwards LB – Syracuse
21 Terry Bussey WR – Texas A&M
22 Micah Kaapana RB – Michigan
22 Ryan Mack DB – Miami
23 Travaris (TJ) Banks DB – Ole Miss
25 Edrees Farooq DB – Tennessee
26 Asaad Brown DB – NC State
27 Davion Gause RB – North Carolina
28 Bryce West DB – Ohio State
29 Kieran Corr K/P – Harvard
38 Bobby Engstler K/P – Florida
44 Montay Weedon LB – Cincinnati
54 Eugene Brooks OL – Oklahoma
55 Michael Uini OL – Georgia
58 Daniel Cruz OL – Texas
60 Cannon Skidmore LS – BYU
62 Elyjah Thurmon OL – Clemson
71 JacQawn McRoy OL – Oregon
72 Ellis Davis OL – Texas Tech
75 Daniel Akinkunmi OL – Oklahoma
77 Jordan Seaton OL – Colorado
78 Ryan Howerton OL – Maryland
90 David Stone Jr. DL – Oklahoma

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3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

The guy is a child raping piece of shit who should be castrated. Also, one of his songs came on one of my channels last night and they're still pretty solid.

Can’t say I disagree. I should probably reconsider my moral standards though, as I can ignore the offstage behavior of SPM, R Kelly and Michael Jackson and enjoy the musical genius of all three. 

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