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24 minutes ago, Getafix said:

 

As fans of a team that won a couple of titles relatively recently, Clemson fans would presumably know what high level football looks like.

On the Clemson 247 board, they had a thread on the Texas-Alabama game.  Here are a few comments from that thread.

When is the last time we heard comments such as these, about Texas?  2005?

 

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I mean, I was at Clemson-Duke. Clemson looked like soft booty against a tough but pure talent-wise overmatched team. And Klubnik was far more of a spare than Milroe - Jalen actually has things he is good at at the college level.

Just rewatched our game, we looked big and fucking tough. Wore Bama out by halftime.

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1 hour ago, texifornia said:

I mean, I was at Clemson-Duke. Clemson looked like soft booty against a tough but pure talent-wise overmatched team. And Klubnik was far more of a spare than Milroe - Jalen actually has things he is good at at the college level.

Just rewatched our game, we looked big and fucking tough. Wore Bama out 

I've rewatched the game.  We played really well, but Big 12 offenses are a lot better.  Thompson got exposed, we got lucky with the drops.  K can't keep exposing him on an island to stop the run.  

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5 hours ago, The Kendall Jackson said:

I've rewatched the game.  We played really well, but Big 12 offenses are a lot better.  Thompson got exposed, we got lucky with the drops.  K can't keep exposing him on an island to stop the run.  

Thompson got exposed by a really good WR, that is finally playing up to his talent. There isn't a team in the Big 12 that has a Burton caliber WR on their roster.

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6 hours ago, The Kendall Jackson said:

I've rewatched the game.  We played really well, but Big 12 offenses are a lot better.  Thompson got exposed, we got lucky with the drops.  K can't keep exposing him on an island to stop the run.  

Weird post all around. There aren’t many, if any, great Big 12 offenses this year, and you’re not going to play 2 high or Cover 3 against Milroe. PK is known for having safeties deep and preventing big plays, so worrying that he’ll run a one off defense against an elite runner at QB against our entire schedule also doesn’t make much sense.  

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7 hours ago, The Kendall Jackson said:

I've rewatched the game.  We played really well, but Big 12 offenses are a lot better.  Thompson got exposed, we got lucky with the drops.  K can't keep exposing him on an island to stop the run.  

Yeah, we're screwed in the Big Bad XII. Every team has a better offense and most of them have secondaries that aren't going to get exposed by future NFL receivers.

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

He still has time to fix the problems, but his issue is the same as Mack’s was. You’re effectively asking him to fix what he thinks got him there in the first place. 

You write a lot of great stuff. This so concisely characterizes Mack after 2005. Tyrone Swoops is perfectly explained by this. The obsession with seasonal slogans is as well. We didn't decline right away and actually did quite well, but, boy, did the crop come in in 2010.

I'm not a Mack hater, but I could see what was happening.

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2 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Thompson got exposed by a really good WR, that is finally playing up to his talent. There isn't a team in the Big 12 that has a Burton caliber WR on their roster.

I was actually impressed with both Burton and Bond. Both guys were much better than I expected. The only team that may have a level of WR that approaches them would be TCU. Those guys were getting so open deep because we had committed so much to stop the run. Outside of possibly Jalon Daniels, there isn't another guy that is going to cause that many problems with his legs and we should be able to commit more to the pass defense. 

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I'm not sure which way to go with that.

  1. Those old Ags hardly know anything other than accepting losses to tu on Kyle Field where we currently have scoreboard and a winning record. I guess they just weren't trying before.
  2. Looks like we're in for an emergency effort to improve facilities and add seats to Kyle Field. A DJ in the showers, barber chairs for the players at halftime, and even a smoking lounge where the players can stay loose before, during, and after the games!
  3. Nuts will be squeezed with renewed force and enthusiasm to help the team!
  4. Calling all sitting National Championship coaches looking for $15MM a year guaranteed contracts extending into perpetuity!  We need a new pimp to take our money and tell us he loves us more than the rest of the girls!
  5. Things can't be so bad, we're tied with LSU and Alabama in the toughest division of the toughest conference in college football. Iron has sharpened iron! 
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7 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

I was actually impressed with both Burton and Bond. Both guys were much better than I expected. The only team that may have a level of WR that approaches them would be TCU. Those guys were getting so open deep because we had committed so much to stop the run. Outside of possibly Jalon Daniels, there isn't another guy that is going to cause that many problems with his legs and we should be able to commit more to the pass defense. 

Milroe is simply a bit of a unicorn for 2023 in CFB. He's a tremendous athlete and a beast when he's running with the ball. If he can control the turnovers, and I don't know if he can, they can win the rest of their games with him or come close. It's not like he's got a weak arm, either. He lacks some accuracy, and I doubt that gets fixed, and he can't read a defense for shit, and I doubt that gets fixed either.

Daniels is a different kind of runner, and one that doesn't inspire much fear. He's also brittle. Dude could get hurt at any point and they go to shit. He didn't play in the opener because he was slightly banged up again. That all said, he's an excellent QB who can extend plays with his feet. I certainly think that, if he's healthy, Kansas presents the greatest remaining challenge to the Texas defense. The problem for KU is that they don't play defense. Stop them a couple of times early on offense, score routinely, and then they're forced to pass the ball the rest of the game. Texas handled them this way last year and I doubt this season will be different.

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Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

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Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

Tarp (Aggie 247)

 

Texas A&M and Texas haven’t played each other in over a decade a generation. On the surface, a new generation hasn’t experienced the passion that this kind of an in state rivalry brings to a fan base.

Many were glad when A&M left what they considered to be an inferior league and put a school that seemingly ran that league in the rear view mirror, never to be thought of again. In addition, without having to worry about their neighbors or coworkers celebrating Texas wins for 365 days a year, losses in the nation’s best league had more of businesslike feel to them.

It didn’t hurt that the Horns have struggled moreso in the intervening years, always proclaiming themselves to be back when the reality was that they were on a treadmill of mediocrity. A&M’s money, prestige, and athletic programs surged in their new surroundings and it was attributed In part to the fact that the university had taken its eyes off of what was going on to the west of it and had re-focused them on it neighbors to the east were doing.

However, many Aggies who were involved with the both the school and athletic department continued to keep a watchful eye on the school over in Austin even as the hot war between the two programs transitioned into a cold one. In particular, A&M’s place as the only Texas based school in the Southeastern Conference gave it a unique identity relative to the one that it had for the previous century plus. A&M recruited better than Texas for the most part during the intervening years due to this piece of leverage with recruits.

When the news broke that the Texas and Oklahoma had applied for membership to the SEC and then were joining the league, all of A&M’s advantages had apparently disappeared in the blink of an eye. On the surface, there was concern that Texas would attempt to do the SEC what it was credited doing to the old Southwest Conference and Big 12….run those leagues to their benefit and the detriment of everyone else.

More quietly, A&M could no longer sell the fact that it was the only SEC school in the state in the recruiting wars for in state or even national prospects. Back in the day, the series between the two programs tended to run in cycles because recruiting was more of a regional phenomenon. If you won your game, you had your choice of the best recruits in the state. That ensured you of winning the next game and the next game after that.

Thus, you had A&M winning nine of ten in the 1980’s and 1990’s and then Mack Brown losing just four times to the Aggies during his tenure (which comprised all of the 2000’s).

When the announcement was made about SEC expansion, A&M seemed well placed for the Horns’ 2024 or 2025 entry into the conference. Jimbo Fisher had just taken the Aggies to the precipice of the College Football Playoff, they were on the verge of a number one ranked recruiting class in the country, and they had just ensured that he would stick around for another decade in College Station via a contract extension.

However, A&M promptly stumbled to an 8-4 record in 2021 and then fell to 5-7 last year. Recently hired Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian had virtually the same record the past two years as Fisher himself.

Nonetheless, many people thought that A&M was considered to have missed an opportunity to generate some real separation between the two programs before both were in the same league once again.

In fact, there has been more of a sense of urgency behind the scenes in Aggieland going into 2023 due to this factor, especially when Texas started the season ranked much higher than A&M. The Aggies needed a bigger than projected 2023 campaign with the 2022 recruiting class playing a prominent role. Last weekend was supposed to be a move in that direction as the Aggies traveled to Miami for a date with a name program while Texas was traveling to Tuscaloosa to a play a top five Alabama squad. In particular, a loss to the Tide would show the world how SEC unready the Horns were. A&M would pick up a win, go on to beat Auburn and Arkansas, and then set up a top ten showdown on A&M”s home turf in October.

A&M would win, use the game as a springboard to another 2022 type of recruiting class, and re-establish that their massive financial investments in Fisher and the program as a whole were paying off.

Texas would be second guessed for its hire of Sarkisian, facing the possibility of another failed head coaching search in the post Mack Brown era, and would be looking at its 2024 trip to Kyle Field as well as its membership in the SEC with much trepidation.

Instead, the Aggies blew a double digit lead versus the unranked Canes and looked very much like the same program they had been in 2021 and 2022. Even worse, Texas beat the top five Tide on the road, got a great performance from both Sarkisian (like Fisher a former Nick Saban assistant) and quarterback Quinn Ewers, and were proclaimed a favorite to win the Big 12 and make the CFP.

In the distant past or even the near future, A&M would eventually play the Horns and have a chance to undo the current perception of the two schools right now by beating them.

Instead, the Alabama game next month has become a point of comparison for A&M and Texas.

If the Aggies don’t beat Alabama…something that the Horns just accomplished….then it’s going to be hard to argue that despite a decade long advantage in preparation that the Horns will have passed them up before they even made it to the SEC.

In particular, given the number of high end prospects that are expected to be at that game and the bounce that A&M got from its 2021 win over the Tide, it’s going to be the biggest contest of the season in that regard.

Most of all, it’s now become the biggest game of Jimbo Fisher’s career simply because of the events of last weekend.

Fisher has done well in A&M under pressure in the past with home wins over top ten Kentucky and LSU in 2018, top five Florida in 2020, number one Alabama in 2021 (after back to back losses), and top five LSU in 2022 (with a 4-7 record). He’s motivated by the thought of beating his mentor in addition to winning in front of the nation’s top recruits. His game plans are better, and his teams are more motivated and play smarter in those games.

There’s also no question that this year’s Tide aren’t the ones we’ve seen the past few seasons.

Nonetheless, due to the events of last weekend, the Tide have become a stand in for the Horns in advance of the 2024 game between the two programs.

That may be an advantage for Fisher and the Aggies given what’s at stake…but there’s no denying what’s at stake has come a year sooner than anyone could have imagined....which makes this game bigger than all of the rest.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Fuck TCU. 

Warren Thompson scare you?  That FSU/Arkansas cast-off that had 4 years to do something in the SEC and couldn't?  1 fucking catch for 18 yards against Colorado.  Fuck him.

You worried about John Paul Richardson?  He's a fucking loser - his dad is Bucky Richardson - losing is in his fucking genes.  Fuck him.

JoJo Earle?  When Texas joins a football league for short people then I'll worry.  Fuck him.

Agreed on this, but Savion Williams will be drafted and can play.

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2 minutes ago, Getafix said:

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Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

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Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

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Texas A&M and Texas haven’t played each other in over a decade a generation. On the surface, a new generation hasn’t experienced the passion that this kind of an in state rivalry brings to a fan base.

Many were glad when A&M left what they considered to be an inferior league and put a school that seemingly ran that league in the rear view mirror, never to be thought of again. In addition, without having to worry about their neighbors or coworkers celebrating Texas wins for 365 days a year, losses in the nation’s best league had more of businesslike feel to them.

It didn’t hurt that the Horns have struggled moreso in the intervening years, always proclaiming themselves to be back when the reality was that they were on a treadmill of mediocrity. A&M’s money, prestige, and athletic programs surged in their new surroundings and it was attributed In part to the fact that the university had taken its eyes off of what was going on to the west of it and had re-focused them on it neighbors to the east were doing.

However, many Aggies who were involved with the both the school and athletic department continued to keep a watchful eye on the school over in Austin even as the hot war between the two programs transitioned into a cold one. In particular, A&M’s place as the only Texas based school in the Southeastern Conference gave it a unique identity relative to the one that it had for the previous century plus. A&M recruited better than Texas for the most part during the intervening years due to this piece of leverage with recruits.

When the news broke that the Texas and Oklahoma had applied for membership to the SEC and then were joining the league, all of A&M’s advantages had apparently disappeared in the blink of an eye. On the surface, there was concern that Texas would attempt to do the SEC what it was credited doing to the old Southwest Conference and Big 12….run those leagues to their benefit and the detriment of everyone else.

More quietly, A&M could no longer sell the fact that it was the only SEC school in the state in the recruiting wars for in state or even national prospects. Back in the day, the series between the two programs tended to run in cycles because recruiting was more of a regional phenomenon. If you won your game, you had your choice of the best recruits in the state. That ensured you of winning the next game and the next game after that.

Thus, you had A&M winning nine of ten in the 1980’s and 1990’s and then Mack Brown losing just four times to the Aggies during his tenure (which comprised all of the 2000’s).

When the announcement was made about SEC expansion, A&M seemed well placed for the Horns’ 2024 or 2025 entry into the conference. Jimbo Fisher had just taken the Aggies to the precipice of the College Football Playoff, they were on the verge of a number one ranked recruiting class in the country, and they had just ensured that he would stick around for another decade in College Station via a contract extension.

However, A&M promptly stumbled to an 8-4 record in 2021 and then fell to 5-7 last year. Recently hired Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian had virtually the same record the past two years as Fisher himself.

Nonetheless, many people thought that A&M was considered to have missed an opportunity to generate some real separation between the two programs before both were in the same league once again.

In fact, there has been more of a sense of urgency behind the scenes in Aggieland going into 2023 due to this factor, especially when Texas started the season ranked much higher than A&M. The Aggies needed a bigger than projected 2023 campaign with the 2022 recruiting class playing a prominent role. Last weekend was supposed to be a move in that direction as the Aggies traveled to Miami for a date with a name program while Texas was traveling to Tuscaloosa to a play a top five Alabama squad. In particular, a loss to the Tide would show the world how SEC unready the Horns were. A&M would pick up a win, go on to beat Auburn and Arkansas, and then set up a top ten showdown on A&M”s home turf in October.

A&M would win, use the game as a springboard to another 2022 type of recruiting class, and re-establish that their massive financial investments in Fisher and the program as a whole were paying off.

Texas would be second guessed for its hire of Sarkisian, facing the possibility of another failed head coaching search in the post Mack Brown era, and would be looking at its 2024 trip to Kyle Field as well as its membership in the SEC with much trepidation.

Instead, the Aggies blew a double digit lead versus the unranked Canes and looked very much like the same program they had been in 2021 and 2022. Even worse, Texas beat the top five Tide on the road, got a great performance from both Sarkisian (like Fisher a former Nick Saban assistant) and quarterback Quinn Ewers, and were proclaimed a favorite to win the Big 12 and make the CFP.

In the distant past or even the near future, A&M would eventually play the Horns and have a chance to undo the current perception of the two schools right now by beating them.

Instead, the Alabama game next month has become a point of comparison for A&M and Texas.

If the Aggies don’t beat Alabama…something that the Horns just accomplished….then it’s going to be hard to argue that despite a decade long advantage in preparation that the Horns will have passed them up before they even made it to the SEC.

In particular, given the number of high end prospects that are expected to be at that game and the bounce that A&M got from its 2021 win over the Tide, it’s going to be the biggest contest of the season in that regard.

Most of all, it’s now become the biggest game of Jimbo Fisher’s career simply because of the events of last weekend.

Fisher has done well in A&M under pressure in the past with home wins over top ten Kentucky and LSU in 2018, top five Florida in 2020, number one Alabama in 2021 (after back to back losses), and top five LSU in 2022 (with a 4-7 record). He’s motivated by the thought of beating his mentor in addition to winning in front of the nation’s top recruits. His game plans are better, and his teams are more motivated and play smarter in those games.

There’s also no question that this year’s Tide aren’t the ones we’ve seen the past few seasons.

Nonetheless, due to the events of last weekend, the Tide have become a stand in for the Horns in advance of the 2024 game between the two programs.

That may be an advantage for Fisher and the Aggies given what’s at stake…but there’s no denying what’s at stake has come a year sooner than anyone could have imagined....which makes this game bigger than all of the rest.

 

 

Texas A&M and Texas haven’t played each other in over a decade a generation.

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6 minutes ago, Getafix said:

Tarp with a dopey, contrived scenario.

Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

Tarp (Aggie 247)

 

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Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

Tarp (Aggie 247)

 

Texas A&M and Texas haven’t played each other in over a decade a generation. On the surface, a new generation hasn’t experienced the passion that this kind of an in state rivalry brings to a fan base.

Many were glad when A&M left what they considered to be an inferior league and put a school that seemingly ran that league in the rear view mirror, never to be thought of again. In addition, without having to worry about their neighbors or coworkers celebrating Texas wins for 365 days a year, losses in the nation’s best league had more of businesslike feel to them.

It didn’t hurt that the Horns have struggled moreso in the intervening years, always proclaiming themselves to be back when the reality was that they were on a treadmill of mediocrity. A&M’s money, prestige, and athletic programs surged in their new surroundings and it was attributed In part to the fact that the university had taken its eyes off of what was going on to the west of it and had re-focused them on it neighbors to the east were doing.

However, many Aggies who were involved with the both the school and athletic department continued to keep a watchful eye on the school over in Austin even as the hot war between the two programs transitioned into a cold one. In particular, A&M’s place as the only Texas based school in the Southeastern Conference gave it a unique identity relative to the one that it had for the previous century plus. A&M recruited better than Texas for the most part during the intervening years due to this piece of leverage with recruits.

When the news broke that the Texas and Oklahoma had applied for membership to the SEC and then were joining the league, all of A&M’s advantages had apparently disappeared in the blink of an eye. On the surface, there was concern that Texas would attempt to do the SEC what it was credited doing to the old Southwest Conference and Big 12….run those leagues to their benefit and the detriment of everyone else.

More quietly, A&M could no longer sell the fact that it was the only SEC school in the state in the recruiting wars for in state or even national prospects. Back in the day, the series between the two programs tended to run in cycles because recruiting was more of a regional phenomenon. If you won your game, you had your choice of the best recruits in the state. That ensured you of winning the next game and the next game after that.

Thus, you had A&M winning nine of ten in the 1980’s and 1990’s and then Mack Brown losing just four times to the Aggies during his tenure (which comprised all of the 2000’s).

When the announcement was made about SEC expansion, A&M seemed well placed for the Horns’ 2024 or 2025 entry into the conference. Jimbo Fisher had just taken the Aggies to the precipice of the College Football Playoff, they were on the verge of a number one ranked recruiting class in the country, and they had just ensured that he would stick around for another decade in College Station via a contract extension.

However, A&M promptly stumbled to an 8-4 record in 2021 and then fell to 5-7 last year. Recently hired Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian had virtually the same record the past two years as Fisher himself.

Nonetheless, many people thought that A&M was considered to have missed an opportunity to generate some real separation between the two programs before both were in the same league once again.

In fact, there has been more of a sense of urgency behind the scenes in Aggieland going into 2023 due to this factor, especially when Texas started the season ranked much higher than A&M. The Aggies needed a bigger than projected 2023 campaign with the 2022 recruiting class playing a prominent role. Last weekend was supposed to be a move in that direction as the Aggies traveled to Miami for a date with a name program while Texas was traveling to Tuscaloosa to a play a top five Alabama squad. In particular, a loss to the Tide would show the world how SEC unready the Horns were. A&M would pick up a win, go on to beat Auburn and Arkansas, and then set up a top ten showdown on A&M”s home turf in October.

A&M would win, use the game as a springboard to another 2022 type of recruiting class, and re-establish that their massive financial investments in Fisher and the program as a whole were paying off.

Texas would be second guessed for its hire of Sarkisian, facing the possibility of another failed head coaching search in the post Mack Brown era, and would be looking at its 2024 trip to Kyle Field as well as its membership in the SEC with much trepidation.

Instead, the Aggies blew a double digit lead versus the unranked Canes and looked very much like the same program they had been in 2021 and 2022. Even worse, Texas beat the top five Tide on the road, got a great performance from both Sarkisian (like Fisher a former Nick Saban assistant) and quarterback Quinn Ewers, and were proclaimed a favorite to win the Big 12 and make the CFP.

In the distant past or even the near future, A&M would eventually play the Horns and have a chance to undo the current perception of the two schools right now by beating them.

Instead, the Alabama game next month has become a point of comparison for A&M and Texas.

If the Aggies don’t beat Alabama…something that the Horns just accomplished….then it’s going to be hard to argue that despite a decade long advantage in preparation that the Horns will have passed them up before they even made it to the SEC.

In particular, given the number of high end prospects that are expected to be at that game and the bounce that A&M got from its 2021 win over the Tide, it’s going to be the biggest contest of the season in that regard.

Most of all, it’s now become the biggest game of Jimbo Fisher’s career simply because of the events of last weekend.

Fisher has done well in A&M under pressure in the past with home wins over top ten Kentucky and LSU in 2018, top five Florida in 2020, number one Alabama in 2021 (after back to back losses), and top five LSU in 2022 (with a 4-7 record). He’s motivated by the thought of beating his mentor in addition to winning in front of the nation’s top recruits. His game plans are better, and his teams are more motivated and play smarter in those games.

There’s also no question that this year’s Tide aren’t the ones we’ve seen the past few seasons.

Nonetheless, due to the events of last weekend, the Tide have become a stand in for the Horns in advance of the 2024 game between the two programs.

That may be an advantage for Fisher and the Aggies given what’s at stake…but there’s no denying what’s at stake has come a year sooner than anyone could have imagined....which makes this game bigger than all of the rest.

 

 

This article would be batshit crazy if it wasn't from an aggie about ATM. It's just kind of par for the course. There is more bullshit in that article than in a cattle barn. There is more wishcasting in that article than in a Disney movie. 

The thing that is the most hilarious to me is the presumption that the recruiting world is going to be focused on College Station that weekend. ATM could have several more losses by then. The only people measuring that game through the lens of Texas vs ATM are aggies. No one else is talking about the two programs in the same breath right now.

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13 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Fuck TCU. 

Warren Thompson scare you?  That FSU/Arkansas cast-off that had 4 years to do something in the SEC and couldn't?  1 fucking catch for 18 yards against Colorado.  Fuck him.

You worried about John Paul Richardson?  He's a fucking loser - his dad is Bucky Richardson - losing is in his fucking genes.  Fuck him.

JoJo Earle?  When Texas joins a football league for short people then I'll worry.  Fuck him.

Other than Texas, it's definitely a down year in the Big 12 for receivers.  Bradley (sand aggy) and Presley (okie lite) are legit, though.   

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If Milroe can play a clean game against aggy, and aggy has forced zero TOs, then Bama will boat race aggy. Saban will get shit figured out and fixed long before Jimbo. Plus, Alabama will not quit on Saban, aggy is a loss in their next 3 games (highly likely) away from the ship hitting the iceberg.

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

This article would be batshit crazy if it wasn't from an aggie about ATM. It's just kind of par for the course. There is more bullshit in that article than in a cattle barn. There is more wishcasting in that article than in a Disney movie. 

The thing that is the most hilarious to me is the presumption that the recruiting world is going to be focused on College Station that weekend. ATM could have several more losses by then. The only people measuring that game through the lens of Texas vs ATM are aggies. No one else is talking about the two programs in the same breath right now.

Actually quite a few in the national media are talking about them in the same breath. “Texas looks like a playoff contender, aggy looks like a failed experiment” followed by sensible chuckles. 

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As far as TCU, Chandler Morris is no Max Duggan who was a wizard at moving around in the pocket and either finding open receivers or taking off. Their defense looked super vulnerable against CU.

OU will be a dogfight - they have their QB Gabriel back and you have to think they're pissed about 49-0 after having a year to sit on it. 

BYU and KSU will probably hang around because they always play us tough 

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33 minutes ago, Getafix said:

Tarp with a dopey, contrived scenario.

Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

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Thus, you had A&M winning nine of ten in the 1980’s and 1990’s and then Mack Brown losing just four times to the Aggies during his tenure (which comprised all of the 2000’s).

you have to love how they pick and choose numbers when it is at all possible.

somewhere they talked about old ags and winning in college station, which honestly is the only place they ever win. 22 of their 37 wins series have come at home.  if the games were only ever played in College Station, Texas would still lead the series 25-22-2. Texas has won 77% of the games in Austin (46-13-1.)

in the 80s overall, A&M won 7 of 10. this deserves a jackie sherrill sized star on it.

in the 90s overall, A&M won 6 of 10. until the last decade, this was the worst decade in Texas football history - McWilliams won 54.4% of his games and Mackovic won 59.2%

so all this to say, the timeframe when they won 9 of 10 was from 1984 to 1993 or 85 to 94. they won 10 of 11 games there. even tarp realizes how fucking dumb it would be to actually say the specific timeframe.

they won 4 of the games from 73 to 84. they won 2 of the next 10 games after this streak.

in a game that has been played 118 times across 13 decades, those two decades plus the 1910s (A&M won 4 of 7) are the only times A&M has won at least 51% of the games played.

in what is something i never noticed until now, they have won more than 2 games in a row in the series only a handful of times ever:

  • 3 in a row from 1909 when they played twice and 1910
  • 6 in a row from 84 to 89
  • 4 in a row from 91 to 94

that's it.

i like numbers, i like making fun of aggies, and they happened to cross here.

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55 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

As far as TCU, Chandler Morris is no Max Duggan who was a wizard at moving around in the pocket and either finding open receivers or taking off. Their defense looked super vulnerable against CU.

OU will be a dogfight - they have their QB Gabriel back and you have to think they're pissed about 49-0 after having a year to sit on it. 

BYU and KSU will probably hang around because they always play us tough 

Counterpoint: OU Sucks

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1 hour ago, Getafix said:

A&M’s money, prestige, and athletic programs surged in their new surroundings and it was attributed In part to the fact that the university had taken its eyes off of what was going on to the west of it and had re-focused them on it neighbors to the east were doing.

I like this sentence from tarp. It never occurs to them to look at themselves, nothing to be learned there. 

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4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Everything we have been forecasting about Clemson is coming true. I know I’m not some sort of savant with stuff I’ve said personally, I have just seen all of this before. Clemson is currently trending deeply into late stage Mack territory. 

We said Klubnik was a long strider who was wildly overrated from a system school. Sound familiar? We all knew it in this forum because we’d seen it. 

They look slow? It’s because they are. They don’t have dynamic playmakers at WR or TB any more because Dabo decided he wanted more “character guys”. Sound familiar?

Their offense and defense look predictable. I wonder why? It couldn’t be due to a strict adherence to what Dabo believes is his Clemson “system” could it?

He still has time to fix the problems, but his issue is the same as Mack’s was. You’re effectively asking him to fix what he thinks got him there in the first place. 

Name the Big 12 offenses that are a lot better? Kansas? Maybe. There isn’t another one on the schedule. 

The defensive design for this game was to hang the secondary out to dry in order keep a functional front 7 facing Milroe. They knew that Bama connecting deep was going to cost them a score or two. 

I doubt we see that defense again all season. 

Speaking of Mack, he is in full blown bitch mode about his transfer not getting approved....And I have to say I love the NCAA's response:

"citing extenuating factors, such as mental health, does not necessarily support a waiver request but instead may, in some situations, suggest a student-athlete should be primarily focused on addressing those critical issues during the initial transition to a third school."

 

Mack if your so dam worried about the kid, keep him on scholarship and let him get his head straight.

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1 hour ago, Getafix said:

Tarp with a dopey, contrived scenario.

Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

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Tarps' Take: Ags-Bama game biggest of Fisher's A&M tenure

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Texas A&M and Texas haven’t played each other in over a decade a generation. On the surface, a new generation hasn’t experienced the passion that this kind of an in state rivalry brings to a fan base.

Many were glad when A&M left what they considered to be an inferior league and put a school that seemingly ran that league in the rear view mirror, never to be thought of again. In addition, without having to worry about their neighbors or coworkers celebrating Texas wins for 365 days a year, losses in the nation’s best league had more of businesslike feel to them.

It didn’t hurt that the Horns have struggled moreso in the intervening years, always proclaiming themselves to be back when the reality was that they were on a treadmill of mediocrity. A&M’s money, prestige, and athletic programs surged in their new surroundings and it was attributed In part to the fact that the university had taken its eyes off of what was going on to the west of it and had re-focused them on it neighbors to the east were doing.

However, many Aggies who were involved with the both the school and athletic department continued to keep a watchful eye on the school over in Austin even as the hot war between the two programs transitioned into a cold one. In particular, A&M’s place as the only Texas based school in the Southeastern Conference gave it a unique identity relative to the one that it had for the previous century plus. A&M recruited better than Texas for the most part during the intervening years due to this piece of leverage with recruits.

When the news broke that the Texas and Oklahoma had applied for membership to the SEC and then were joining the league, all of A&M’s advantages had apparently disappeared in the blink of an eye. On the surface, there was concern that Texas would attempt to do the SEC what it was credited doing to the old Southwest Conference and Big 12….run those leagues to their benefit and the detriment of everyone else.

More quietly, A&M could no longer sell the fact that it was the only SEC school in the state in the recruiting wars for in state or even national prospects. Back in the day, the series between the two programs tended to run in cycles because recruiting was more of a regional phenomenon. If you won your game, you had your choice of the best recruits in the state. That ensured you of winning the next game and the next game after that.

Thus, you had A&M winning nine of ten in the 1980’s and 1990’s and then Mack Brown losing just four times to the Aggies during his tenure (which comprised all of the 2000’s).

When the announcement was made about SEC expansion, A&M seemed well placed for the Horns’ 2024 or 2025 entry into the conference. Jimbo Fisher had just taken the Aggies to the precipice of the College Football Playoff, they were on the verge of a number one ranked recruiting class in the country, and they had just ensured that he would stick around for another decade in College Station via a contract extension.

However, A&M promptly stumbled to an 8-4 record in 2021 and then fell to 5-7 last year. Recently hired Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian had virtually the same record the past two years as Fisher himself.

Nonetheless, many people thought that A&M was considered to have missed an opportunity to generate some real separation between the two programs before both were in the same league once again.

In fact, there has been more of a sense of urgency behind the scenes in Aggieland going into 2023 due to this factor, especially when Texas started the season ranked much higher than A&M. The Aggies needed a bigger than projected 2023 campaign with the 2022 recruiting class playing a prominent role. Last weekend was supposed to be a move in that direction as the Aggies traveled to Miami for a date with a name program while Texas was traveling to Tuscaloosa to a play a top five Alabama squad. In particular, a loss to the Tide would show the world how SEC unready the Horns were. A&M would pick up a win, go on to beat Auburn and Arkansas, and then set up a top ten showdown on A&M”s home turf in October.

A&M would win, use the game as a springboard to another 2022 type of recruiting class, and re-establish that their massive financial investments in Fisher and the program as a whole were paying off.

Texas would be second guessed for its hire of Sarkisian, facing the possibility of another failed head coaching search in the post Mack Brown era, and would be looking at its 2024 trip to Kyle Field as well as its membership in the SEC with much trepidation.

Instead, the Aggies blew a double digit lead versus the unranked Canes and looked very much like the same program they had been in 2021 and 2022. Even worse, Texas beat the top five Tide on the road, got a great performance from both Sarkisian (like Fisher a former Nick Saban assistant) and quarterback Quinn Ewers, and were proclaimed a favorite to win the Big 12 and make the CFP.

In the distant past or even the near future, A&M would eventually play the Horns and have a chance to undo the current perception of the two schools right now by beating them.

Instead, the Alabama game next month has become a point of comparison for A&M and Texas.

If the Aggies don’t beat Alabama…something that the Horns just accomplished….then it’s going to be hard to argue that despite a decade long advantage in preparation that the Horns will have passed them up before they even made it to the SEC.

In particular, given the number of high end prospects that are expected to be at that game and the bounce that A&M got from its 2021 win over the Tide, it’s going to be the biggest contest of the season in that regard.

Most of all, it’s now become the biggest game of Jimbo Fisher’s career simply because of the events of last weekend.

Fisher has done well in A&M under pressure in the past with home wins over top ten Kentucky and LSU in 2018, top five Florida in 2020, number one Alabama in 2021 (after back to back losses), and top five LSU in 2022 (with a 4-7 record). He’s motivated by the thought of beating his mentor in addition to winning in front of the nation’s top recruits. His game plans are better, and his teams are more motivated and play smarter in those games.

There’s also no question that this year’s Tide aren’t the ones we’ve seen the past few seasons.

Nonetheless, due to the events of last weekend, the Tide have become a stand in for the Horns in advance of the 2024 game between the two programs.

That may be an advantage for Fisher and the Aggies given what’s at stake…but there’s no denying what’s at stake has come a year sooner than anyone could have imagined....which makes this game bigger than all of the rest.

 

 

Tarp must have a masters in obfuscation and ommission.

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

If Milroe can play a clean game against aggy, and aggy has forced zero TOs, then Bama will boat race aggy. Saban will get shit figured out and fixed long before Jimbo. Plus, Alabama will not quit on Saban, aggy is a loss in their next 3 games (highly likely) away from the ship hitting the iceberg.

Excuse me sir.  Aggies don't quit....they get the flu....

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33 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

Speaking of Mack, he is in full blown bitch mode about his transfer not getting approved....And I have to say I love the NCAA's response:

"citing extenuating factors, such as mental health, does not necessarily support a waiver request but instead may, in some situations, suggest a student-athlete should be primarily focused on addressing those critical issues during the initial transition to a third school."

 

Mack if your so dam worried about the kid, keep him on scholarship and let him get his head straight.

Taking the NCAA's side here? Ok....

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8 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Taking the NCAA's side here? Ok....

I definitely understand the frustration for the athletes, but UNC and Mack Brown did it to themselves.   UNC and Mack Brown (along with almost every other school and coach) spent a ton of time demanding the NCAA do something about the rampant transfers and so they did something.  Then as soon as their player is blocked from playing immediately, they cry about how unfair it is.  Coaches want the NCAA to block transfers out of their program but not into their program.

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2 hours ago, 6th Street said:

As far as TCU, Chandler Morris is no Max Duggan who was a wizard at moving around in the pocket and either finding open receivers or taking off. Their defense looked super vulnerable against CU.

OU will be a dogfight - they have their QB Gabriel back and you have to think they're pissed about 49-0 after having a year to sit on it. 

BYU and KSU will probably hang around because they always play us tough 

You are a fuckin beating lol. 

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I picture you saying this as we scored that last TD, and then pounded the fucking rock for 5 minutes to steal saban's soul and beat ala-fucking-bama in tuscaloosa. 

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45 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Taking the NCAA's side here? Ok....

Yes actually.  You want to transfer once?  Fine go ahead. But willy nilly transferring for no reason is stupid.  Also, if he is transferring back to UNC to be closer to family and get his mental health right, fine, keep him on scholarship, let him practice and workout, get adjusted to school, get his head straight.....and he can play football next year!  The kid isn't prevented from being on scholarship or on the team.  If mental health is truly your argument, then weather you are actively playing football or not is immaterial.

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3 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

Yes actually.  You want to transfer once?  Fine go ahead. But willy nilly transferring for no reason is stupid.  Also, if he is transferring back to UNC to be closer to family and get his mental health right, fine, keep him on scholarship, let him practice and workout, get adjusted to school, get his head straight.....and he can play football next year!  The kid isn't prevented from being on scholarship or on the team.  If mental health is truly your argument, then weather you are actively playing football or not is immaterial.

My bad. Didn't know this case met the elements of a willy-nilly transfer. 

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17 minutes ago, Foosters said:

My bad. Didn't know this case met the elements of a willy-nilly transfer. 

3rd school in 2 years....sounds willy nilly to me.  And again the whole basis of his transfer was mental health.  So therefore spend a year on the practice squad, get your shit straight, and play next year.

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2 hours ago, NoName said:

you have to love how they pick and choose numbers when it is at all possible.

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However, A&M promptly stumbled to an 8-4 record in 2021 and then fell to 5-7 last year. Recently hired Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian had virtually the same record the past two years as Fisher himself.

"Guys, we've basically had the same record the last two seasons. It's a wash. We're both headed in the same direction."
 

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9 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

Like this?

"Guys, we've basically had the same record the last two seasons. It's a wash. We're both headed in the same direction."
 

Yea that one stuck out to me too. 5-7 in year 1 and 8-5 the second year is about as opposite as you can get from 8-4 in year 4 and 5-7 in year 5. Fucking clown.

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7 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Thompson got exposed by a really good WR, that is finally playing up to his talent. There isn't a team in the Big 12 that has a Burton caliber WR on their roster.

Rod Babers and Drew Kelson said he got picked on by being setup with the scheme of the play and when you are being setup there is not much you can do about it. Basically he was isolated on the best receiver by distracting the corner with a lesser receiver and the pressure on the QB that would have helped him never got there.

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