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4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

bit of a sidetrack but more from Kemp - he really went after Donnie:

 

Sounds like there may be a Republican politician in Georgia who actually has working brain cells.  Hope he can last a few more months without being murdered.

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2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I don't get it.  Is he up against a term limit?  Does he just not want to be the Republican nominee for governor the next election?  Is he on dope?

Yes he is.  He's positioning himself for 2026 Senate, 2028 President if Biden wins again or the guy the GOP money people turn to in 2024 if Trump can't go. 

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1 minute ago, South Austin said:

I don't get it.  Is he up against a term limit?  Does he just not want to be the Republican nominee for governor the next election?  Is he on dope?

He's been going after Trump for 2 years and crushed a MAGA primary challenge in 2022. 

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9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

He's been going after Trump for 2 years and crushed a MAGA primary challenge in 2022. 

Got it.  Haven't been really following Georgia politics beyond the Herschel Walker hilarity.  If the state veers back to red then I guess it's better than MAGA red. 

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3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Got it.  Haven't been really following Georgia politics beyond the Herschel Walker hilarity.  If the state veers back to red then I guess it's better than its not MAGA red. 

MAGA has been rejected in statewide races which is why guys like Kemp and Raffensburger keep their jobs while they have two Democratic US Senators (because the R candidates were MAGA idiots). It also wasn't widely reported but the GOP speaker of the Georgia house also said he wasn't going after Fani. 

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Kemp is a piece of shit in his own right, but he legit hates Trump and has for a long time.  He took all of Trump's shenanigans in Georgia personally.  He's not going to do him any favors for many reasons.

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1 hour ago, South Austin said:

I don't get it.  Is he up against a term limit?  Does he just not want to be the Republican nominee for governor the next election?  Is he on dope?

He's setting up himself as a potential crossover candidate, and he isn't waiting for later, he will announce in January or February, once some of the dust settles.  

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5 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

While most of America was sleeping, Donnie was airing his feelings at 2 am:

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It brings me great joy to know that he is up at two in the morning - on the shitter - processing hamburders - and terrified at the process over which he has no control. 

I think he is more upset at the charges  that will prove he’s not nearly as rich as he said that he is, than he is worried about actual jail time.   The former is a Dante’s concentric circle of hell for an insecure Uber-narcissist like Trump who has spent his entire life trying to fake that he’s really rich. 

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On 8/31/2023 at 11:23 AM, The Dog said:

from yesterday. this was always DOA and just grandstanding for fundraising:

 

Coupla things. 

Georgia has ascended over Texas and Florida. Low bars, but it's nice work. I wonder of if Georgia is thinking, "Yew know, we trahd this whole rebellin' thang befoah. Did not work out. Mistuh Trump, no suh. You on you own."

 

As for Dotard, I don't know why I was reminded of Robert Mitchum and how useful he might be today.

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2 hours ago, South Austin said:

I don't get it.  Is he up against a term limit?  Does he just not want to be the Republican nominee for governor the next election?  Is he on dope?

He wants to be President and Georgia is very much a purple state these days.  They've got 2 Democratic Senators.

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3 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I also love how he pimps tax cuts along w/ cop and teacher raises.  Republicans loooooooove deficits. 

I mean, if my only options were:

1. End democracy and give absolute power to a racist dictator who will only use this power to line his own pockets, or

2. Enact policies that lead to huge amounts of government debt,

I'm going with 2 every time.

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22 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I mean, if my only options were:

1. End democracy and give absolute power to a racist dictator who will only use this power to line his own pockets, or

2. Enact policies that lead to huge amounts of government debt,

I'm going with 2 every time.

Those aren’t the options. Tax Cuts without spending cuts also leads to mass government debt. 
 

Real choice are 

1. End democracy and give absolute power to a racist dictator who will only use this power to line his own pockets + huge amounts of Gov Debt 

2. Huge amounts of government debt

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2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

It brings me great joy to know that he is up at two in the morning - on the shitter - processing hamburders - and terrified at the process over which he has no control. 

I think he is more upset at the charges  that will prove he’s not nearly as rich as he said that he is, than he is worried about actual jail time.   The former is a Dante’s concentric circle of hell for an insecure Uber-narcissist like Trump who has spent his entire life trying to fake that he’s really rich. 


Are you sure that there's no way to pre-program your posts in advance, like there is on Twitter or Facebook?

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When host Laura Ingraham asked what his “constitutional” plan was on 6 January 2021 — as Mr Trump and his allies sought to overturn the results of the 2020 election — Mr Eastman admitted that he tried to stop the certification of the election results and wanted then-Vice President Mike Pence to at least halt Congress from certifying them for a week.

“Some people had urged that Vice President Pence simply had power to reject electors whose certification was still pending,” he said.

“I explicitly told Vice President Pence in the Oval Office on January 4, that even though it was an open issue, under the circumstances we had I thought it was the weaker argument, and it would be foolish to exercise such power.

“What I recommended, and I’ve said this repeatedly, is that he accede to requests from more than 100 state legislators in the swing states, to give them a week to try and sort out the impact of what everybody acknowledged was illegality in the conduct of the election.”

His response left many legal experts baffled — as it appeared that the attorney admitted live on air that he was guilty of one of the crimes with which he is charged.

Bradley P. Moss, an attorney specialising in national security, posted a clip of the interview on X/Twitter, saying: “He literally just confessed to the crime.”

 

 

https://news.yahoo.com/did-trump-codefendant-just-confess-095756682.html?src=rss

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35 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Those aren’t the options. Tax Cuts without spending cuts also leads to mass government debt. 
 

Real choice are 

1. End democracy and give absolute power to a racist dictator who will only use this power to line his own pockets + huge amounts of Gov Debt 

2. Huge amounts of government debt

if the dems can string b2b potuses (poti?) #2 will not longer be true either. they're always busy cleaning up the previous R admin's fuckups that they never get a chance to rise higher than that. time to flip that script.

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5 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, Kemp is one of those “we cheat the RIGHT way in this party damnit!” guys.

“I’m a classic republican, where we keep our racism inside the home, and our grifting quiet!” —-Kemp probably

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33 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Yeah, that's kind of what elections are.  Choosing.

We had a recent judicial runoff election with that race, being the only thing on the ballot. The eventual winner was elected by a whopping 17% of registered voters.  83% chose not to choose.  Which definitely played a significant role in deciding who won the judgeship. 

So elections are also very much about not choosing. Get out the vote moose out front shoulda told ya.  

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58 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

We had a recent judicial runoff election with that race, being the only thing on the ballot. The eventual winner was elected by a whopping 17% of registered voters.  83% chose not to choose.  Which definitely played a significant role in deciding who won the judgeship. 

So elections are also very much about not choosing. Get out the vote moose out front shoulda told ya.  

Not voting is also a choice. A bad choice but it is a choice 

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3 hours ago, Grade of D as in David said:

I can't wait to see Trump's lawyer's faces when he faces cross examination. Can they take the 5th on his behalf?

I know it's a facetious question, but if Trump took the stand in his own defense, he entirely waives his 5th Amendment privilege as to the matters he testifies to.  So, it's not just a matter of him failing to invoke it, he can't.

It hasn't been explicitly discussed in too many places, but by testifying at his removal hearing, Meadows likely waived his 5th amendment privileges for future proceedings in federal court, and maybe even the Georgia court, as well.  At least as to those matters to which he testified.

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Rooted around some and found the motion for summary judgment in the NY AG case.  Turns out, Trump did use those bullshit financial statements in connection with loan guaranties and seeking insurance coverage.  Not quite sure why this isn't a federal bank fraud case, but whatever.

So, I'm thinking they may really have him.  My sense of it, though, is I dont' see $250M in damages to the State of New York, or really anyone.

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Rooted around some and found the motion for summary judgment in the NY AG case.  Turns out, Trump did use those bullshit financial statements in connection with loan guaranties and seeking insurance coverage.  Not quite sure why this isn't a federal bank fraud case, but whatever.

So, I'm thinking they may really have him.  My sense of it, though, is I dont' see $250M in damages to the State of New York, or really anyone.

Wasn't this all discovered in the NYT article from like 2018?  I don't get how no one is absolutely slaying him on that.

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1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Wasn't this all discovered in the NYT article from like 2018?  I don't get how no one is absolutely slaying him on that.

No.

The 2018 article was about potential tax fraud, including some jacked up valuations and funky accounting reflected in his tax returns.  Kind of related, but no not discovered or established.

There's a shit ton of evidence that Trump's "Statements of Financial Condition" were similarly cooked and bullshit.  That is what James has sued over.  What has been conspicuously missing from the reportage is any specific instance where those documents were submitted to a financial institution to rely on in underwriting a loan or insurance policy.  There have been some vague allusions to that, but nothing specific.  James has proof of specific loans, insurance policies, and institutions where those bullshit documents were submitted and relied upon.

There's also been some mumbling about statute of limitations problems, but I don't think that's a very big deal now.  Ivanka was dismissed from the lawsuit because Trump Organization parties signed a tolling agreement in 2021 that would extend the statute of limitations by two years.  She was found not to have been part of the Trump Org by that date and so not bound by the tolling agreement.  So acts occurring prior to 2016 were barred as against her, but it's 2014 for the rest of them.

2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Is that a 5 year SOL?

Six apparently, extended by two years by the tolling agreement.

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6 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Of these 19 at least a few are going to get steamrolled by legal fees. And it appears Trump and the PACs aren’t helping.  So, from my perspective, that means….

 

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Hey, nineteen
No, we got nothin' common
No, we can't dance together
No, we can't talk at all
Please take me along when you slide on down.

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