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Posted
1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

What is Trump Force One worth?

 

 

38 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

26 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Here's a sample pricing list of what many aircraft cost new: http://www.axonaviation.com/commercial-aircraft/aircraft-data/aircraft-pricing

A brand new A321 (similar to the 757) is about $114 million. 

So yeah, he's turbofucked.

Wouldn’t he have to pay off his title loan first?

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14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

He forgot to add other, ummmm.....lenders he approached who wouldn't get on board either.  Bo Diddley wasn't having it.

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He didn't get diddly.

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Posted
43 minutes ago, immamac said:

Kushner is doing shit with that 2B not just donking it the fuck off. 

Yeah, but he is "earning" $25m per year for investing in an asset class in which, to my knowledge, he had no experience (which honestly might be a good thing given his real estate investing experience).  Super ironic in light of all the crying about Hunter's board comp. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Red Five said:

As an aside, I was laughing earlier thinking about watching tv mortified on 1/6/21, and thinking "Well, at least this means Dotard will be unelectable going forward...."

Red Five you sweet naive summer child. 

I CAN'T SHAKE HIM!

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Posted
3 hours ago, The Dog said:

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They don't accept real estate as collateral, or they don't accept his real estate as collateral? Those 2 are not necessarily the same.

Would any financial institution not believe that they would struggle to get money from Trump, even if he has the equity in the properties? You have a guy asking for money and he could be any or all of the following situations in less than a year: in prison, in bankruptcy, in the White House. 

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

They don't accept real estate as collateral, or they don't accept his real estate as collateral? Those 2 are not necessarily the same.

Would any financial institution not believe that they would struggle to get money from Trump, even if he has the equity in the properties? You have a guy asking for money and he could be any or all of the following situations in less than a year: in prison, in bankruptcy, in the White House. 

I'm no property attorney, but if the buildings are already heavily leveraged, or there are multiple owners, or if the housing market for those kind of commercial properties is soft, or all 3, which is very likely the case, I can see a bond company taking a hard pass. 

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Posted
Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

They don't accept real estate as collateral, or they don't accept his real estate as collateral? Those 2 are not necessarily the same.

Would any financial institution not believe that they would struggle to get money from Trump, even if he has the equity in the properties? You have a guy asking for money and he could be any or all of the following situations in less than a year: in prison, in bankruptcy, in the White House. 

Bingo.  If a surety (or any lender....you know, the very thing one of these cases was about) is going to accept real property as collateral, they need the following information, and it has to be reliable: 1) the ACTUAL value of the property (that is, what they can get for it if they have to foreclose on the collateral and sell it - they DGAF what Donald says it's worth, what will someone out in the market actually pay for it, today?), 2) what other prior liens/encumbrances is it subject to, and I mean ALL such liens, encumbrances, claims, etc., and 3) what is the VALUE of those liens (e.g., if there are liens worth $50 million on a property worth at most $60 million, then that property just provides a mere $10 million in security, at best).  The existence of liens SHOULD be obtainable from statements on file in the local property records, but again....are you looking to be tied up in litigation with some new "prior lienholder" that Trump "forgot" to tell you about, or in litigation with them about how much they should be paid because the lien amount you were given was bullshit?

Lending is based on trust.  Even when it requires security, there is still an element of trust.  Only the dumbest people on the planet would trust Donald Trump when it comes to ANYTHING these days.

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Posted
1 minute ago, dcbc said:

And the New York properties are subject to seizure by the state.  So he's not going to be able to put up the 5th Ave. property (for example) as collateral.

can we FF to the point where he shoots someone on 5th Ave? namely himself?

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Posted
Just now, immamac said:

This would be delicious irony. 

it would certainly solidify the cult status and turn him into a martyr for the true believers. "See? He predicted his own demise! He was the chosen one!" or some shit like that

Posted
1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Even more than that, the advisory committee said "This is a bad idea."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html

So what were they buying?

Probably paying him back for sharing classified U.S. intelligence with MBS about other members of the Saudi Royal family which assisted him in his purge. Probably also for Jared’s help running interference for him after he had his goons butcher Jamal Khashoggi.

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Posted
3 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

So many Trumpkins think he is this financial wizard who can lead the US economy to the promised land.  This should be a good place to start an ad campaign against that notion.  Carry it through to the fact that they have taken over the GOP to use all their donations to save his broken ass.  

This should not be a good day to be around Donnie. Having to admit publicly that he doesn’t have the money to post a bond - and everyone is laughing about it - is probably making him a very unhappy child.

Habba Dabba Doo had better have brought some lube. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

This should not be a good day to be around Donnie. Having to admit publicly that he doesn’t have the money to post a bond - and everyone is laughing about it - is probably making him a very unhappy child.

Habba Dabba Doo had better have brought some lube. 

Why?  Butter that mushroom, and you only have to worry about the first 2 inches of your passage anyway.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Only the dumbest people on the planet would trust Donald Trump when it comes to ANYTHING these days.

Yep.   The whole GOP and about 30-40% of the country.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Why?  Butter that mushroom, and you only have to worry about the first 2 inches of your passage anyway.

I just assumed that the first 2 inches involved a rectum clinch tighter than Aggy leading late in the fourth quarter. 

Posted
Just now, atomheartbevo said:

And that Frankoma pottery ain’t bringing the prices it once was.

They should just liquidate their clown collection -- a lotta dollars to be found there.

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Posted
Just now, atomheartbevo said:

And that Frankoma pottery ain’t bringing the prices it once was.

Don't you dare besmirch my Dale Earnhardt collector plate collection from the Franklin Mint.

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Posted
2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Anyone who doesn't think the Saudis and/or the Russians would gladly invest well into the billions on a 1% bet that Trump wins is a fool. The damage they know he'd do to America would be well worth it to them, regardless of whether he follows through on any specific promises. The problem as they see it would be that it will be hard to keep it secret and could backfire on them, not that it's a poor investment. 

Seems with the increased O&G self-dependency and movement towards renewables here in the states and across the world, the Saudis would not be carrying as big a stick as they did in the past.  There's still a place for them moving forward but diminished.  

Posted
19 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

So I’ve actually found that lately (the last 4-5 years) people with tons of money still buy shit like poor people, because they are actually poor they just have some thing that allows them to cash flow until it doesn’t. 
 

AKA have 2M but spending 50k a month instead of buying a 6M plane works if they can keep the grift going somehow. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, AnTiM said:

I am still wondering WTF happened to the billion dollar supply of golden athletic shoes???

I'm waiting for news of the mysterious warehouse fire in JYNA!!! that burned the entire 1M pair supply and the accompanying insurance claim that builds in a 50% premium over the original $400 asking price cuz they were so hot ...

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Posted
2 hours ago, locodos said:

It's almost like the trial that found Trump guilty of over inflating the value of his properties is leading to companies being unsure about the values of his properties...  imagine that!

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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Boo hoo!

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Hell if this is real I will say that the fact I could read a bit of that in a Jackie Chiles cadence is an improvement over the normal drivel

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