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6 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I know this isn't a new thought, but it was a reminder to me of a larger problem than Trump/MAGA that affects everyone.

One of my closest friends (a lifelong contrarian and conspiratorial thinker) sent me a tweet showing Kamala on her plane in a photo op where she is accused of a staged photo writing on blank pieces of paper with her earbuds not plugged in to her phone. The tweeter said it reminded them of a scene from VEEP. My friend knows how much I love VEEP (he's never seen it) and it was a truly lighthearted text he expected I would laugh at. He knows I'm very liberal and we usually chat about sports, but there was nothing nefarious.

What I got out of it the most is my friend and I are consuming completely different information. I'm sure if I grabbed his phone and scanned his Twitter feed, there would be ZERO crossover politically. Modern technology has completely removed the media monoculture we experienced in the 20th century. We all sit here incredulous that people can be pro-Trump based on his media clips and everything else. But I'd bet that the vast majority of his people don't see what we see. And vice versa. I know I'm on the "right" side of this election, but 95% of what I consume is showing Kamala/Dems in the best light. I notice the half-truths and out of context BS from Dem accounts, and it's pretty frustrating, but it's clearly WAY worse on the right.

It's such a dangerous way for society to receive and process information. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, MSM, podcasts...the algorithm will only feed you what you want to hear. And I don't see a realistic solution. It seems it will only get worse. 

It's not a new thought, and I share it.

But I one add one thing: the era of the "media monoculture," as you describe it, was really very brief.  It lasted from roughly 1925 to roughly 2010.  Before 1925, there was no mass media.  People got their information from local newspapers, word of mouth, and just made-up bullshit.  You had newspaper moguls like William Randolph Hearst who were able to move public opinion on major national issues.  And you had newspapers expressly backed by the political parties.  But apart from that, people lived in their own bubble getting the information to which they made a conscious effort to expose themselves.

And ok--maybe that wasn't great.  I mean, we had a civil war.

But for most of the history of democracy in America and elsewhere, that's how it has always been.  

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An interesting note from the new Jack Smith filing: He argues that FBI experts have mapped out what Donald Trump was doing on his phone during the Capitol Riot and that, at trial, a forensic examiner could testify about logs that show Trump “was using his phone, and in particular, was using the Twitter application, consistently throughout the day after he returned from the Ellipse speech.”

 

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60 Minutes is typically the 1st or 2nd highest rated non-sports show on network TV. So yeah, people still watch it. It also rates higher than any Fox News program. Last season it averaged 8 million viewers. Steven Cheung is a fat piece of shit. 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

It's not a new thought, and I share it.

But I one add one thing: the era of the "media monoculture," as you describe it, was really very brief.  It lasted from roughly 1925 to roughly 2010.  Before 1925, there was no mass media.  People got their information from local newspapers, word of mouth, and just made-up bullshit.  You had newspaper moguls like William Randolph Hearst who were able to move public opinion on major national issues.  And you had newspapers expressly backed by the political parties.  But apart from that, people lived in their own bubble getting the information to which they made a conscious effort to expose themselves.

And ok--maybe that wasn't great.  I mean, we had a civil war.

But for most of the history of democracy in America and elsewhere, that's how it has always been.  

I would be interested in seeing a comparison of the Spanish Flu vs. Covid 19.  I would imagine that it was more uniformed 100 years ago, despite the lack of general science literacy.  But that is just a guess. 

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8 minutes ago, Tuco said:

I would be interested in seeing a comparison of the Spanish Flu vs. Covid 19.  I would imagine that it was more uniformed 100 years ago, despite the lack of general science literacy.  But that is just a guess. 

It was censored at first due to the war.

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Trump says he would revoke the temporary protective status of Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio. Bradley: So you would revoke the temporary protected status? Trump: Absolutely. I'd revoke it, and I'd bring them back to their country.

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2 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Naming my next band "Sex Demons."  I called it, its mine.

So Hines is “shocked” that the man who left his wife for her would cheat. Amazing 

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3 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

It was censored at first due to the war.

IIRC, that is how it got its name.  Probably started in the US, but censored.  The first reporting was from Spain.  

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Most of this looks like stuff that was already widely known but has now finally been nailed down with solid proof.  As if that might make a difference...

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Vance's rally seems a little small today.  Also, he's increased his eyeliner usage after the debate last night, and he's back to using a dark blue eyeliner, but he comes across as somebody going through the motions and not somebody who has a chance to win.

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How long did that take to type with is fat little thumbs? You know he’s too stupid to cut and paste. I bet his legs went to sleep on the toilet before he was done 

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2 hours ago, Tuco said:

I would be interested in seeing a comparison of the Spanish Flu vs. Covid 19.  I would imagine that it was more uniformed 100 years ago, despite the lack of general science literacy.  But that is just a guess. 

 

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10 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

a forensic examiner could testify about logs that show Trump “was using his phone, and in particular, was using the Twitter application, consistently throughout the day after he returned from the Ellipse speech.”

 

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Legal xitter is so stupid.

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Must be Republicans for Kamala day:

New ad ft Pence, Milley, Bolton, Esper

 

Harris campaign launches new GOP outreach group in Georgia

Former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan is headlining a new campaign effort to motivate Republican skeptics of former President Donald Trump to back Vice President Kamala Harris in November.

Duncan will join former U.S. Rep. Joe Walsh of Illinois in Roswell on Thursday to launch the Republicans for Harris in Georgia initiative. They’ll be joined at the event by Baoky Vu, a Georgia GOP elector who resigned in 2016 rather than cast a ballot for Trump.

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The reason I feel that Harris is definitely going to win is that I’ve never in my lifetime seen members of the opposing party supporting a candidate at this level. I feel like the never-trumpers this cycle should at least offset or possibly even exceed the trump-only cultists.

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3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

The reason I feel that Harris is definitely going to win is that I’ve never in my lifetime seen members of the opposing party supporting a candidate at this level. I feel like the never-trumpers this cycle should at least offset or possibly even exceed the trump-only cultists.

Forgot to add that she will be doing a rally with Liz Cheney today in Ripon, WI, the birthplace of the Republican Party in 1854

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Walz had a great line that I don’t see mentioned much when responding to the “states should decide.” He said individual freedoms shouldn’t be determined by geography. Looks like Melania agrees. Not that she really cares, that jacket is probably still in her closet.

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

This is great, and I am of course happy to see it.  I'd be happier if it was somewhere I thought those who needed to see it would see it.  

Also,

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10 minutes ago, Tuco said:

"The former first lady stated it was a position she has held for years, but has been reinforced by getting to know Eric and Don, Jr."

and Baron

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15 minutes ago, Tuco said:

"The former first lady stated it was a position she has held for years, but has been reinforced by getting to know Eric and Don, Jr."

She supports abortion through the 150th trimester. That must be where trump is getting "they're killing them after birth."

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4 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Is this a parody?

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From 2019: Trump suggests shooting migrants BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49901878

 

Eye liner and eye shadow?

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Has he come out (unintentional word choice) against drag shows? He's pretty close to putting one on himself.

Well Momma Ru Paul says, we’re born naked and the rest is drag. His drag performance is that of a small government conservative when, in reality, underneath is a christo-fascist nationalist 

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36 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

Fuck her. She's a horrible person too.

Yep.  This feels like an attempt to soften Trumps anti-choice position by having his wife (for the time being) come out and support a woman's right to choose.  She is still the same racist birther asshole who didn't say a word or lift a finger to help when she was first-lady.  Why the fuck should anyone care what she thinks now?

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7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

I appreciate Hutchinson speaking out against Trump with clarity and thoughtfulness. 

Victor Shi calling her an "American hero" is absolutely ridiculous, and you see this kind of language from rah rah Dems too often. I hate it. Coming to your senses and doing the right thing is not heroic. Stop treating a clear moral issue as some incredible hurdle to climb. 

Oh, and of course she's written a book. It'd be nice if former Trumpers speaking out would do so without trying to financially gain something from it. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Yep.  This feels like an attempt to soften Trumps anti-choice position by having his wife (for the time being) come out and support a woman's right to choose.  She is still the same racist birther asshole who didn't say a word or lift a finger to help when she was first-lady.  Why the fuck should anyone care what she thinks now?

I agree.  But I think it's stupid.  It's not something the undecided voter is going to notice.  The pro-choicers won't give a shit.  The only group that will notice and care is the prolife faction, and to them it will be another gut punch. This is a topic that Trump should be avoiding, not evolving his image on. And while the prolife faction is not near a majority, they are sizable and they aren't prone to nuance.

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41 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Yep.  This feels like an attempt to soften Trumps anti-choice position by having his wife (for the time being) come out and support a woman's right to choose.  She is still the same racist birther asshole who didn't say a word or lift a finger to help when she was first-lady.  Why the fuck should anyone care what she thinks now?

So his wife is a baby murderer and his running mate's wife is a "darkie." Just more examples that policy and principles mean nothing to "conservative" voters.

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Hey undecided voters. Melania is saying that you too can be completely for a woman's right to choose while voting for the person who contributed to taking that right away and will work to make it a nationwide ban. It should all work out if you're rich or out of child bearing age. 

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