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Posted
7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Damn, I always just assumed based on the last name that she was Korean.  But Hmong she is, which makes it even a better American story (our history with the Hmong, and their settlement here, is something).

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Posted
2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Also this:

 

 

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My comments made last night were ill-informed and unproductive.


We already know he’s an idiot, but never let somebody else put words in your mouth like that and frame you like a fool.

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

The CR recruitment thread, of course it's moving fast. 

A reminder on RCP

More evidence of shittiness 

Real talk: Vance being fucking tired of his kid yammering about stupid Pokemon shit and maybe losing it a bit and telling his kid to stop yammering about Pikachu is maybe the most human and empathetic thing I've heard about Vance.

Seriously, fellow dads.....tell me you never had such a moment with one of your kids, and I'll tell you you're a fucking liar.

I don't think that moment makes Vance shitty.  It makes him real and human.  Yeah, it's a shitty thing to do (you really SHOULDN'T lose it with your kid and tell them to STFU....but you probably also SHOULDN'T drink 14 cheap beers and piss off a public balcony while singing George Strait tunes at the top of your lungs, but man...let he who is without sin throw the first stone, amirite?)...but it's real.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

The CR recruitment thread, of course it's moving fast. 

A reminder on RCP

More evidence of shittiness 

 

It was a life changing phone call, alright...

Posted
8 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Shapiro really hamstrings the campaign’s ability to hit hard on the misogyny angle. It would be idiotic 


u serious bro?

 

trump is a rapist. Vance is somebody that showed up in a teleport from the early 1800’s along with project 1725. 
 

Shapiro had one guy on his staff that assaulted a woman and it’s somehow equals out?

 

not even Trump’s campaign would try that angle. 

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Posted
22 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Suppressed turnout, etc. but you want to sit here and pretend that because you refused to compromise from your unflinching and unwavering “principles” to vote for the lesser of two evils that it had no negative consequences. Well ok.

My point is not a personal defense. I voted for Kerry and Hillary, for practical reasons. But it’s just lazy victim blaming to pin a right wing victory on left wing voters, instead of on the two parties who only offered right-wing candidates. 

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2 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


u serious bro?

 

trump is a rapist. Vance is somebody that showed up in a teleport from the early 1800’s along with project 1725. 
 

Shapiro had one guy on his staff that assaulted a woman and it’s somehow equals out?

 

not even Trump’s campaign would try that angle. 

It’s not going to be Trump. It’s going to be progressives and they absolutely will harp on the fact that he paid hush money and got an NDA for a buddy that did who knows what to a woman. it’s fucked up and it’s an own goal.

Posted
53 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I disagree.  It's mealy-mouthed political gibberish.  No thanks.

Letting people know you care is gibberish? Seriously? That was your take away?

Posted
2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

It’s not going to be Trump. It’s going to be progressives and they absolutely will harp on the fact that he paid hush money and got an NDA for a buddy that did who knows what to a woman. it’s fucked up and it’s an own goal.


#chainsawed

 

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Musk suspended the White Dudes for Harris twitter and now suspended the Progressives for Harris one. They were going to have a zoom with Sanders and Warren. 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

This Tim Walz interview with Ezra Klein is refreshing. He’s literally the anti-Greg Abbott. 
 

“I want Minnesota to be the best state to raise kids”

 

and he lists about 20 things they’ve done to improve the lives of mothers, kids and families. Abbott only pro-family agenda is to say “it could have been worse” 2 hours after Uvalde shooting. 
 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000664114455

I was on the White Dudes for Harris call and he dubbed himself the anti-Tuberville because of the football coach connection. With the governor connection, you are spot on. 

Team Walz, Beshear or Buttigieg, but really any of them

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Posted
22 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

also, like chainsaw, calling bill clinton a center right candidate

Or you could actually look beyond superficial party labels at a politician’s record when making this determination. Clinton signed NAFTA, the Defense of Marriage Act, welfare reform, the 1994 Crime Bill, and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. This dude at The Federalist of all publications fucking loves Clinton’s record and compares him favorably to Reagan. 

But yeah, Clinton was a real progressive reformer. Mmkay.

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Posted
1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

Or you could actually look beyond superficial party labels at a politician’s record when making this determination. Clinton signed NAFTA, the Defense of Marriage Act, welfare reform, the 1994 Crime Bill, and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. This dude at The Federalist of all publications fucking loves Clinton’s record and compares him favorably to Reagan. 

But yeah, Clinton was a real progressive reformer. Mmkay.

Triangulationism.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

My point is not a personal defense. I voted for Kerry and Hillary, for practical reasons. But it’s just lazy victim blaming to pin a right wing victory on left wing voters, instead of on the two parties who only offered right-wing candidates. 

You make it seem like American voters had no say whatsoever in who won the individual state primaries and then were selected the nominee. Bernie Sanders fuckery aside, generally speaking these are the people that were selected by the people to be the representative. So, yeah, I blame the the margin of pouty victims. 
 

You yourself said you voted for Hillary and Kerry for practical reasons. That means you got it. Others who don’t get a free pass?

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Posted
3 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

But yeah, Clinton was a real progressive reformer

Not being a progressive reformer ≠ right wing

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Letting people know you care is gibberish? Seriously? That was your take away?

He comes across as shallow and insincere.  Sorry I insulted your bro.

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

Like, "For fucks sake people, it's 2024. Yes he's gay. He's very gay. He's very good at being gay, like he's very good at everything he does, because he's basically a perfect human. Stop being monsters." Ok maybe not that but you get my point

No, I like where this is headed.  Let's lean into it:

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Posted
Just now, SydneyCarton said:

You yourself said you voted for Hillary and Kerry for practical reasons. That means you got it. Others who don’t get a free pass?

They don’t get a free pass. But principled left wing voters who can’t bring themselves to vote for a dude who apparently is cool with genocide (if, for example, Shapiro gets the nod) would bear far less blame for a hypothetical Trump win than the actual fascists who vote for Trump.  

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, G650 said:

Not being a progressive reformer ≠ right wing

Yes. That sarcastic comment was the main point of my post. Good job, G650’s brain.

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4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Or you could actually look beyond superficial party labels at a politician’s record when making this determination. Clinton signed NAFTA, the Defense of Marriage Act, welfare reform, the 1994 Crime Bill, and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. This dude at The Federalist of all publications fucking loves Clinton’s record and compares him favorably to Reagan. 

But yeah, Clinton was a real progressive reformer. Mmkay.

Clinton’s also a product of his upbringing and era. Clinton also made changes, which turned out to be quite damaging, to allow every American to have a home. He attempted to pass universal healthcare. Jobs and homelessness were at record levels. He was huge for higher and lower education, and he cut taxes on low incomes. Yeah, he was basically Reagan. GTFO. 

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Clinton signed NAFTA

definitely right of Trump on trade/free markets

I'm disappointed that Biden has continued a lot of Trump's fuckery in that area

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Harris isn't Black. Pete isn't Gay. Tucker, Donald, JD and the other hypocritical fucktards aren't weird. Seems like it's their theme. 

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

They don’t get a free pass. But principled left wing voters who can’t bring themselves to vote for a dude who apparently is cool with genocide (if, for example, Shapiro gets the nod) would bear far less blame for a hypothetical Trump win than the actual fascists who vote for Trump.  

Sure. But that’s a given. It’s a given that much of America is stupid, racist, lost and lost likely all three. But at the end of the day when the margin is people who should know better, often do know better, but won’t hold their noses then fuck them. 

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Posted
35 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Two things:

1. Rove lives in Austin now?

2. I guess he's taking lessons from Katie Porter now with that whiteboard.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Chopper said:

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Harris isn't Black. Pete isn't Gay. Tucker, Donald, JD and the other hypocritical fucktards aren't weird. Seems like it's their theme. 

 

It's opposite day man

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Posted
1 minute ago, Chopper said:

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Harris isn't Black. Pete isn't Gay. Tucker, Donald, JD and the other hypocritical fucktards aren't weird. Seems like it's their theme. 

 

 

These people are like stepping in dog shit.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

In that context, it would seem most of the big names being floated for Harris' VP carry very little risk, no?

Here’s an interesting stat from GE Morris.  Kinda underscores the Shapiro as obvious choice thing.

small sample size though

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Clinton’s also a product of his upbringing and era. Clinton also made changes, which turned out to be quite damaging, to allow every American to have a home. He attempted to pass universal healthcare. Jobs and homelessness were at record levels. He was huge for higher and lower education, and he cut taxes on low incomes. Yeah, he was basically Reagan. GTFO. 

I didn’t say he was Reagan. I said one rightwing pundit compared him favorably to Reagan. 

My point is Clinton was right of center. He signed a lot of ridiculously regressive shit that caused a lot of harm to minorities and the working class. He had some progressive views, certainly. But he was right of center on balance. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

They don’t get a free pass. But principled left wing voters who can’t bring themselves to vote for a dude who apparently is cool with genocide (if, for example, Shapiro gets the nod) would bear far less blame for a hypothetical Trump win than the actual fascists who vote for Trump.  

"Cool with genocide" seems more than a tad of a stretch. He, like the majority of Israelis, has strongly criticized Netanyahu. Shapiro's problems with the far left are because he also criticized them as racist (I think it was by comparing them to the KKK) and stopped legal protests. 

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They don’t get a free pass. But principled left wing voters who can’t bring themselves to vote for a dude who apparently is cool with genocide (if, for example, Shapiro gets the nod) would bear far less blame for a hypothetical Trump win than the actual fascists who vote for Trump.  
Not in this election. A vote for anyone other than Harris is a vote for Trump.
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Posted
1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sure. But that’s a given. It’s a given that much of America is stupid, racist, lost and lost likely all three. But at the end of the day when the margin is people who should know better, often do know better, but won’t hold their noses then fuck them. 

Here’s a different perspective: fuck the people who demand left wing votes while supporting right wing / inhumane shit. 

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Just now, BrickHorn said:

I didn’t say he was Reagan. I said one rightwing pundit compared him favorably to Reagan. 

My point is Clinton was right of center. He signed a lot of ridiculously regressive shit that caused a lot of harm to minorities and the working class. He had some progressive views, certainly. But he was right of center on balance. 

As someone who was raised as a republican, and registered as one until 2016, I just flat out do not agree with this at all. 

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2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

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Harris isn't Black. Pete isn't Gay. Tucker, Donald, JD and the other hypocritical fucktards aren't weird. Seems like it's their theme. 

 

Tucker:  Pete's not gay. I offered to suck his dick but he refused...  NOT GAY!!! 

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Posted
1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

My point is Clinton was right of center.

 

9 minutes ago, G650 said:

Not being a progressive reformer ≠ right wing

5 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Yes. That sarcastic comment was the main point of my post. Good job, G650’s brain.

 

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Posted
Just now, BrickHorn said:

Here’s a different perspective: fuck the people who demand left wing votes while supporting right wing / inhumane shit. 

Or, fuck the people will sit out and hand an election to someone who will advocate for even worse inhumane shit abroad, and also implement inhumane shit at a massive scale here in the United States!

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Posted
Just now, Chopper said:

"Cool with genocide" seems more than a tad of a stretch. He, like the majority of Israelis, has strongly criticized Netanyahu. Shapiro's problems with the far left are because he also criticized them as racist (I think it was by comparing them to the KKK) and stopped legal protests. 

Fair enough. But also legit for American progressives to recoil at an authoritarian governor shutting down protests. 

But I guess it will be the far left’s fault for not supporting the Democratic establishment’s preferred authoritarian asshole. Or something.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Musk suspended the White Dudes for Harris twitter and now suspended the Progressives for Harris one. They were going to have a zoom with Sanders and Warren. 

How long until the internet fires up 100k bots to turn x into a scat porn site? I wish I knew how to do it and I would gladly help.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Shapiro won by 14 points. But Mastriano was a historically bad R candidate. 

 

1 hour ago, Firemans4Horn said:


 

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You're right, I was thinking about someone else, margin wise. He still sucks.

Posted
11 minutes ago, dcbc said:

No, I like where this is headed.  Let's lean into it:

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Resulting in:

 

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Can someone please explain to me why the fuck everyone is posting yarns? They don't work half the time. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

As someone who was raised as a republican, and registered as one until 2016, I just flat out do not agree with this at all. 

Ah, okay. This is starting to make sense. You were awash in Republican propaganda while Clinton was in office, and the memory of GOP vitriol at the time is clouding your hindsight judgment. 

The Republicans hated Clinton for reasons, even though Clinton passed numerous regressive pieces of legislation. Politics is weird that way. Opinions are often irrational and counterproductive.

Posted
14 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

He comes across as shallow and insincere.  Sorry I insulted your bro.

I'm not insulted, just surprised. He is a politician, I assume everything is to some degree insincere. But I had a very different response to it, so as I said, surprising. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does that matter? Supreme Court in- annex them. 

I doubt it ever really mattered in the sense that it was changing anybody's vote, but it pissed off a lot of the gun nuts at the time, and was something I've seen brought up occasionally over the years as evidence that Trump was actually "weak" on protecting the 2A. Since the SC overturned the ban a few months ago, I'm sure MAGA is largely going to pretend it never happened, but it was a grievance the gun worshippers had with him for several years.

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