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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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34 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

There's really no better evidence that people are voting against their interest than major national unions failing to endorse Harris.

They believe that they selflessly put the country first by voting Trump who will restore the republic to the greatness of unchallengable white man rule. He'll save us from the immigrants: these dangerous motherfuckers.

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The boy is smiling because he can't hardly wait to sell the ten pounds of fentanyl they have hiding in their asses so they can buy a nice four bedroom house in the 'burbs after they kill the current residents and eat their pets. 

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You haven’t lived unless you’ve tried arroz con gato.

Sure has been a lot of movement in races towards the Dems lately. First TX-SEN, now this
 

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14 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

They believe that they selflessly put the country first by voting Trump who will restore the republic to the greatness of unchallengable white man rule. He'll save us from the immigrants: these dangerous motherfuckers.

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The boy is smiling because he can't hardly wait to sell the ten pounds of fentanyl they have hiding in their asses so they can buy a nice four bedroom house in the 'burbs after they kill the current residents and eat their pets. 

Don’t forget signing up for disability and welfare benefits which are both notoriously easy to get and generous. 
 

 

On 10/1/2024 at 4:33 PM, ConferenceRoom said:

End of boomer generation is 1964. 

I caught the last month of it. 

5 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

I caught the last month of it. 

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2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Go fuck yourselves, Firefighters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/03/fire-fighters-union-declines-presidential-endorsement-00182372

Vice President Kamala Harris suffered a blow Thursday as the union representing more than 300,000 career firefighters and emergency responders declined to make a presidential endorsement, two weeks after the International Brotherhood of Teamsters made a similar decision.

Leaders of the International Association of Fire Fighters gathered this week and determined “by a margin of 1.2%” against picking a candidate, according to General President Edward Kelly.

In my experience, police and firefighters are generally folks with fierce unions and tremendous benefits who are also somehow are against unions for everyone else. In other words, selfish ‘for me but not for thee’ MAGA shitheads. Fuck ‘em..

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There's really no better evidence that people are voting against their interest than major national unions failing to endorse Harris.

CRAPers. I fly with one every trip. Conservative Republican Airline Pilots. Most are ex air force or navy and took an oath to defend the constitution while also supporting a Russian asset and traitor.

That baboon won't be running. Y'all act like he's not going to prison or house arrest for life.
38 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I have never wavered on NV going blue.  Yet again.  

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I have never wavered on NV going blue.  Yet again.  

 

And as NV goes, so goes AZ.

4 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

In my experience, police and firefighters are generally folks with fierce unions and tremendous benefits who are also somehow are against unions for everyone else. In other words, selfish ‘for me but not for thee’ MAGA shitheads. Fuck ‘em..

No endorsement from firefighters is actually pretty positive considering how quickly our brave boys in blue jumped on Trump's dick.

3 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

In my experience, police and firefighters are generally folks with fierce unions and tremendous benefits who are also somehow are against unions for everyone else. In other words, selfish MAGA shitheads. Fuck ‘em..

Yup. Every firefighter I’ve known is well within the trump wheelhouse. I’ve heard one say he doesn’t like socialism, etc, someone mentioned that they are part of a union and republicans are against them, response was “it’s not a union it’s just for firefighters.” Didn’t hear any follow up but my guess is that they justify the disconnect because their counterpart is the evil government and not benevolent private industry.

 

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Congrats to all the illegal aliens!

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Former President Barack Obama will hit the campaign trail for Vice President Harris and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz starting next Thursday, Oct. 10, through election day, according to a senior campaign official.

The first stop will be in Pennsylvania in the Pittsburgh area before Obama embarks on a campaign blitz across the battleground states in the final 27 days.

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7 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No endorsement from firefighters is actually pretty positive considering how quickly our brave boys in blue jumped on Trump's dick.

The police union was magnanimous enough to not endorse anyone in 2012, rather than Romney. Other than that, you have to go back to 1996 when they endorsed Bill Clinton as he basically ran unopposed (sorry, Bob) as the last time the nod didn't go to the GOP. I suspect it will be decades before that changes.

Is there a separate report with the number of black jobs created? I bet it was zero. Or at least that is what I'm sure we will hear from the orange shit stain later today.

15 minutes ago, Thrawn said:

Is there a separate report with the number of black jobs created? I bet it was zero. Or at least that is what I'm sure we will hear from the orange shit stain later today.

Black jobs were down 254,000.  All of the jobs taken were black jobs.

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It is October 4 and this is my (current) prediction - 

Harris (and Dems) look particularly stronger in the Midwest than they do in the Sunbelt, just like in 2022.  I currently have Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania in Harris' column, along with Nevada, which has gotten progressively less and less buzz lately, making me think it's invariably in her column. 

Harris 276, Trump 219

We've gotten mixed polling in Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina.  I'm more inclined to put Arizona (abortion on the ballot + Kari Lake) and North Carolina (Mark Robinson) in Harris' column as of today and Georgia as a toss-up still.  The lack of any big statewide (gov or Senate) race in Georgia likely keeps it as tossup/tilt-R.  I think it will be the closest state of the 7 swing states.

Harris 303, Trump 219, TBD 16 (Georgia)

Just stoked to be pretty much locked in a position (I agree on Nevada) where winning Pennsylvania makes Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina irrelevant bonuses.

2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Go fuck yourselves, Firefighters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/03/fire-fighters-union-declines-presidential-endorsement-00182372

Vice President Kamala Harris suffered a blow Thursday as the union representing more than 300,000 career firefighters and emergency responders declined to make a presidential endorsement, two weeks after the International Brotherhood of Teamsters made a similar decision.

Leaders of the International Association of Fire Fighters gathered this week and determined “by a margin of 1.2%” against picking a candidate, according to General President Edward Kelly.

The only two Democrats they haven’t endorsed in the last 40 years are Hillary and Kamala. 

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

Some of us have been saying that Nevada is Republican fools gold for a long time. 

If we get NC and PA called early the shitposting coming from Truth Social will be epic

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

He really is tired. This is from earlier today.  He slurred some words the few minutes I listened, and he rambled about Biden and Biden using teleprompters.

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Ok, this is like the 4th or 5th screen grab lately with an absolutely insane shit scrolling across the bottom line.  Are these all jokes?  Or are they real life?  Because holy fuck if they are real.

2 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

There is a culture of losing in that party.  They'd rather lose, play the victim, and blame everyone else.  Trump is that in human form.

It's like a college football program where winning isn't the most important thing.  Making certain boosters happy, keeping a coach, lack of money, etc.  

Aggy.  All you had to say was aggy.

1 minute ago, tx ind said:

If we get NC and PA called early the shitposting coming from Truth Social will be epic

FL gets called pretty quickly on election night, regardless of outcome. So if we see a suburbs continue to shift left in places like Orlando and Tampa and Miami shift left, it bodes well for the rest of the night.

Of course, the longer they can’t call Florida (even if it’s eventually a Trump win, the better everyone should feel. He won FL by 3.3 and it was called at 11:30pm

Just stoked to be pretty much locked in a position (I agree on Nevada) where winning Pennsylvania makes Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina irrelevant bonuses.

It will be funny to watch Dotard scream again about how he supposedly won an election that he lost by 70 EVs and 7-8 million votes. Because of all the obvious fraud everywhere that no one can even identify, much less prove.
4 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

The only two Democrats they haven’t endorsed in the last 40 years are Hillary and Kamala. 

Note, the President of the union changed after the 2020 election. Previous President was an ally of Biden's. New guy previously brought in a guy pardoned by Trump to be his right hand:

https://theintercept.com/2020/09/18/firefighters-union-iaff-schaitberger-trump-kelly-golsteyn/

 

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 Ed Kelly, a young rising star in the Massachusetts labor movement, won his bid to become General Secretary-Treasurer of the International Association of Fire Fighters, or IAFF: the union representing 320,000 firefighters and paramedics across the U.S and Canada. The position is the second most powerful in the union, behind the presidency, which has been held for the last two decades by 74-year-old Harold Schaitberger, a close ally of Joe Biden.

Soon after, Kelly tapped combat veteran Mathew Golsteyn to serve as his chief of operations. The low-key hire came at the recommendation of Kelly’s brother, Greg, who had overlapped in Afghanistan with Golsteyn. But Golsteyn was not just any Green Beret: He had earned a spate of shocking headlines just a year earlier for alleged war crimes, for which he was ultimately pardoned by President Donald Trump in November 2019. In the month following the pardon, Golsteyn joined Trump onstage at a secretive fundraiser for the Florida Republican Party, helping them net $3.5 million in donations.

In 2015, Golsteyn had been stripped of a Silver Star after disclosing in a CIA polygraph interview that he had shot and buried an unarmed Taliban fighter he thought was a bombmaker, and later dug up the remains and burned them in a pit. The revelations roiled the CIA, which quickly notified the Pentagon, sparking a two-year investigation in which the U.S Army concluded in 2013 that Golsteyn had knowingly violated the laws of war. While investigators did not find enough evidence to bring criminal charges, in an internal Army memo previously reported by The Intercept, Golsteyn was reprimanded for a “complete lack of judgement and responsibility” and told he had “discredited” himself and the U.S military.

But in October 2016, just a month after joining the firefighters union, Golsteyn was asked on Fox News if he killed the suspected bombmaker, to which he replied, “Yes.” This new public admission sparked army investigators to quickly reopen their investigation, and two years later charged Golsteyn with murder.

The new probe and criminal charges became a cause célèbre among conservatives, who rushed to Golsteyn’s defense. Golsteyn’s lawyer called the murder charge a case of “political correctness” and following an interview with Golsteyn’s wife in December 2018 on the president’s favorite news program “Fox & Friends,” Trump got involved.

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Firefighters’ Union, a Key Biden Ally, Confronts a Barr Investigation and Trump’s Pardon Power

IAFF's president and his second-in-command are caught in a high-stakes brawl ahead of union elections and the race for the White House.

Rachel M. Cohen

September 18 2020, 6:00 a.m.

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Harold Schaitberger, general president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, speaks during the IAFF Legislative Conference in Washington, D.C., on March 12, 2019. Photo: Al Drago/Bloomberg via Getty Images

In August 2016, Ed Kelly, a young rising star in the Massachusetts labor movement, won his bid to become General Secretary-Treasurer of the International Association of Fire Fighters, or IAFF: the union representing 320,000 firefighters and paramedics across the U.S and Canada. The position is the second most powerful in the union, behind the presidency, which has been held for the last two decades by 74-year-old Harold Schaitberger, a close ally of Joe Biden.

Soon after, Kelly tapped combat veteran Mathew Golsteyn to serve as his chief of operations. The low-key hire came at the recommendation of Kelly’s brother, Greg, who had overlapped in Afghanistan with Golsteyn. But Golsteyn was not just any Green Beret: He had earned a spate of shocking headlines just a year earlier for alleged war crimes, for which he was ultimately pardoned by President Donald Trump in November 2019. In the month following the pardon, Golsteyn joined Trump onstage at a secretive fundraiser for the Florida Republican Party, helping them net $3.5 million in donations.

In 2015, Golsteyn had been stripped of a Silver Star after disclosing in a CIA polygraph interview that he had shot and buried an unarmed Taliban fighter he thought was a bombmaker, and later dug up the remains and burned them in a pit. The revelations roiled the CIA, which quickly notified the Pentagon, sparking a two-year investigation in which the U.S Army concluded in 2013 that Golsteyn had knowingly violated the laws of war. While investigators did not find enough evidence to bring criminal charges, in an internal Army memo previously reported by The Intercept, Golsteyn was reprimanded for a “complete lack of judgement and responsibility” and told he had “discredited” himself and the U.S military.

But in October 2016, just a month after joining the firefighters union, Golsteyn was asked on Fox News if he killed the suspected bombmaker, to which he replied, “Yes.” This new public admission sparked army investigators to quickly reopen their investigation, and two years later charged Golsteyn with murder.

The new probe and criminal charges became a cause célèbre among conservatives, who rushed to Golsteyn’s defense. Golsteyn’s lawyer called the murder charge a case of “political correctness” and following an interview with Golsteyn’s wife in December 2018 on the president’s favorite news program “Fox & Friends,” Trump got involved.

Throughout all of this, Kelly offered unwavering support on social media for his chief of operations and helped fundraise for Golsteyn’s legal defense.

Meanwhile, ahead of what is often described as the most important presidential election in generations, a series of escalating disputes among IAFF leadership have increasingly spilled over into public view. Schaitberger, a key Biden ally, is locked in bitter in-fighting, grappling with leaks to right wing media, and confronting a federal investigation from a Justice Department that’s been unabashed in its willingness to use federal power for the president’s political gain. It comes as Biden is fighting Trump for votes among elderly and white working-class voters, where the firefighters union is a key validator, so much so that Trump has worked hard to undermine the value of the endorsement.

Things heated up earlier this year when Kelly accused Schaitberger of financial impropriety. Schaitberger has been blasted for lavish spending before, but the crux of the new allegations hinged on whether Schaitberger received pension benefits too early; prior to being elected IAFF president in 2000, he served as an IAFF union staffer for 24 years. The elected position and the staff position earn pension benefits from two separate funds, and Kelly charges that Schaitberger drew from his staff pension benefits too soon, in violation of federal law and union rules. The IAFF has pointed to legal counsel it received at the time of Schaitberger’s transition, and maintains they have done nothing wrong. Earlier this month federal authorities launched a criminal probe into the accusations, while the union’s executive board has launched an internal review.

So yeah, I'd say the new President is a Trumper. 

11 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

The only two Democrats they haven’t endorsed in the last 40 years are Hillary and Kamala. 

Things that make you say, "Huh."

1 hour ago, Bateshorn said:

Don’t forget signing up for disability and welfare benefits which are both notoriously easy to get and generous. 
 

 

And free $10k Mastercard waiting for them as well. 

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

FL gets called pretty quickly on election night, regardless of outcome. So if we see a suburbs continue to shift left in places like Orlando and Tampa and Miami shift left, it bodes well for the rest of the night.

Of course, the longer they can’t call Florida (even if it’s eventually a Trump win, the better everyone should feel. He won FL by 3.3 and it was called at 11:30pm

FL always starts R and then we all sit and watch as Miami-Dade votes keep trickling in and it just doesn't quite make it turn blue.  Hoping this year is different, but expectations are low, because Florida.

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

FL always starts R and then we all sit and watch as Miami-Dade votes keep trickling in and it just doesn't quite make it turn blue.  Hoping this year is different, but expectations are low, because Florida.

I’m not expecting a win there. That would generally mean she decimated him and this is 2008 

But less than 3.3 would be good. Downballot implications, including FL-Sen and FL-13 (Anna Paulina Luna)

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and a more serious point by Wasserman:

 

23 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Ok, this is like the 4th or 5th screen grab lately with an absolutely insane shit scrolling across the bottom line.  Are these all jokes?  Or are they real life?  Because holy fuck if they are real.

Seriously?

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

and a more serious point by Wasserman:

 

I don’t have time to try to corroborate Wasserman’s data, but is he suggesting that 800k Floridians who were registered Dems have left Florida or otherwise not registered for this election?  That doesn’t pass the smell test.  

Just now, LCHorn said:

I don’t have time to try to corroborate Wasserman’s data, but is he suggesting that 800k Floridians who were registered Dems have left Florida or otherwise not registered for this election?  That doesn’t pass the smell test.  

You only have to register once. These are new Florida voters.

3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

While you are correct, all of that happened this last time and he still won without even debating the field.

It's not the BMD's and the party.  It's the voters.  

THIS.  @atomheartbevo, it's this.  It doesn't matter what the BMDs, or the old-school Republicans want.  It matters 0.0%.

The GQP cannot win national elections without not just MAGA votes, but MOTIVATED MAGA votes.  If they all go back into their trailers and holes, the GQP is fucked.  No matter how much money they spend, no matter how much free ice cream and recess every day they promise, without MAGA, they're fucked.

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

There's really no better evidence that people are voting against their interest than major national unions failing to endorse Harris.

 

2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

They believe that they selflessly put the country first by voting Trump who will restore the republic to the greatness of unchallengable white man rule. He'll save us from the immigrants: these dangerous motherfuckers.

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The boy is smiling because he can't hardly wait to sell the ten pounds of fentanyl they have hiding in their asses so they can buy a nice four bedroom house in the 'burbs after they kill the current residents and eat their pets. 

And fucking this.  People will pass up a store full of stuff that helps them to grab the one janky-ass policy from the alley behind the store that HURTS someone else.  "The cruelty tells you it's working!"  It's the worst of human nature, and Trump, MAGA, and he entire GQP have tapped into it.  It is their lifeblood at this point.  Without promises to hurt other people for you, they have nothing.

22 minutes ago, Red Five said:


It will be funny to watch Dotard scream again about how he supposedly won an election that he lost by 70 EVs and 7-8 million votes. Because of all the obvious fraud everywhere that no one can even identify, much less prove.

Yeah, hilarious. 
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2 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

You only have to register once. These are new Florida voters.

Google says Fl population is 22m.  You think 13.7m of them are new Florida voters?

3 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

You only have to register once. These are new Florida voters.

The population of Florida is 23 million.  I don’t think these numbers can represent only new registrations, even if new means since the 2020 election. 

4 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

You only have to register once. These are new Florida voters.

Those can't be new registrations. That would be over half the population of the state. Those numbers don't make sense unless Florida simply removed 700k democratic voters from the rolls. 

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19 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I’m not expecting a win there. That would generally mean she decimated him and this is 2008 

But less than 3.3 would be good. Downballot implications, including FL-Sen and FL-13 (Anna Paulina Luna)

 

9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

and a more serious point by Wasserman:

 

Putting aside the registration stuff, with Florida, you want to watch how the Villages come in, then a bit later, how Miami Dade looks. Dems aren't winning Florida, but we knew in 2020 by 9 pm we were in for a long night and it wasn't going to be a Biden nationwide romp. Same thing this time: If Wasserman and Coked Up Kornacki (TM) are talking about the Dems outperforming, its going to be a good night.  If they are talking about Harris underperforming Biden, then everyone may need to freshen up their passports. 

6 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I don’t have time to try to corroborate Wasserman’s data, but is he suggesting that 800k Floridians who were registered Dems have left Florida or otherwise not registered for this election?  That doesn’t pass the smell test.  

DeSantis putting in work to purge those voter rolls.

First off, there’s no data to differentiate new registrations or switched registrations.

Secondly, it’s still about persuasion. Go back and look at the voting data for the Jax mayoral race. Looked like a GOP blowout but the Dem won. But persuasion has helped the Dems a lot the last few cycles 

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1 minute ago, royiv said:

DeSantis putting in work to purge those voter rolls.

That should be a huge fucking story of DeSantis just up and suddenly purged 700k democratic voters. Like riots in the streets huge. The full table shows the change was largely between 2022 and 2023. I think something else is going on here. 

1 hour ago, DaysOff said:


CRAPers. I fly with one every trip. Conservative Republican Airline Pilots. Most are ex air force or navy and took an oath to defend the constitution while also supporting a Russian asset and traitor.

That baboon won't be running. Y'all act like he's not going to prison or house arrest for life.

I can’t imagine being locked in a cockpit with those guys for hours on end. Godspeed to you for getting your passengers to their destination safely without choking out your copilot.

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