Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Deej 76080]

7 hours ago, Post Oak said:

From a company that knows what a fucking truck should be.

I still miss my 76 F150 Supercab. 

[Ted Lange 15820]

7 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

So a grown man wearing a Boba Fett shirt AND has a big Star Wars toy hanging in his garage bought a CT? Where's Triumph the Insult Dog when you need him?

A Triumph episode mocking the Tesla fan boys would be amazing.  So much material. 

[F250 28379]

8 hours ago, aggie08 said:

What the fuck is "Car Wash Mode"?

It's a button that you press that does nothing.

[BearMace 2172]

Does this mean we shouldn't get in front of cyber trucks and thoroughly wash our windshields, especially not at highway speed where there might be the potential for significant over spray?

[Pato del Muerto 51914]

7 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Or Seattle. Or Florida. Or Houston.

This is so damn stupid.

 

I’m way outside of Seattle proper but I’ve only seen one cybertruck, and I see rivians every day. 

[Francisco 2.0 31567]

15 hours ago, aggie08 said:

What the fuck is "Car Wash Mode"?

 

Because I had to look it up:

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html

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If taking Cybertruck to an automatic car wash is necessary, Car Wash Mode closes all windows, locks the charge port, and disables windshield wipers, Sentry Mode, and walk-away door locking.

 

So, Tesla spent considerable R&D time, money and brainpower coding something that essentially a large swath of the population is going to take for granted at a car wash:  make sure the windows are up, don't open the charging (gas tank) lid, and don't run the wipers.  

 

 

[Parliament 13979]

Can I drive it in the rain?

[NoName 16196]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13316825/Teslas-Cybertruck-disaster-Insider-reveals-safety-issues-scenes-EV-rollout-drone-footage-shows-hundreds-unfinished-trucks-backed-Texas-factory.html

Tesla's Cybertruck disaster: Insider reveals 'serious safety issues' behind scenes of EV rollout - as drone footage shows hundreds of unfinished trucks backed up at Texas factory

these idiots laid off a bunch of people who were going to work through the CT acceleration issue lol

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While there has been no official announcement from Tesla, several customers have posted text messages they have received from the company cancelling their Cybertruck 'delivery appointment' due to an unexplained and 'unexpected delay' regarding preparation of their vehicle. 

Tesla cited an unspecified parts issue, according to these texts to customers, which could relate to Cybertruck's accelerator pedal covers. 

'It appears they need at least until April 20th to correct the issue, but it could be potentially longer than that,' a Tesla representative texted one customer, Max Pyko of Birmingham, Alabama.

'Tesla is working on getting improved parts to all affected locations asap,' the company's text message continued. 

 

example:

verified multiple more times in the thread below

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/canceled-delivery.14584/

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is this bad?

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And new drone footage, obtained by DailyMail.com, shows rapid efforts to expand Tesla's Giga factory outside Austin, Texas — where an estimated 600 Cybertrucks sit idle to the west and east sides of Texas State Highway 130.

from reddit:

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My service center lost 9 people, 5 of which were techs. Other service center in my area lost the general manager, service manager, and the ONLY service advisor as well as one technician leaving only 3 techs in the entire service department.

Atlanta had a lot of issues. Heard they fired at least 10 people from every center. still haven’t received my tag bought the car two months ago

Mine lost a total of 12 people, 8 were techs. That was half of our techs.

 

 

 

those idiots firing a bunch of service folks when you can really only get your TSLA serviced at one of their service centers is going to do wonders for customer satisfaction

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Cybertruck Deliveries Halted Due To Car Being A Big Piece Of Shit That Doesn’t Work

https://archive.is/XntJn

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Tesla, a future case study for securities law classes across America, had to stop delivering Cybertrucks this past weekend. No, not because the hundred-thousand–dollar medium-duty pickup, which is only any of those things in the loosest interpretive sense, tends to brick when it gets rained on; nor because its stainless steel panels get all rusty and nasty-looking after weeks exposed to the rare, harsh condition of "being outside." Perhaps you think it has something to do with the shorter-than-advertised driving range and longer-than-advertised charging time, but no: Rather, the cause of this snag is that the trucks struggle with the basics of stopping and going, by which I mean that the accelerator pedal cover slides off and gets stuck under a panel and locks the accelerator pressed down and keeps the Cybertruck stuck at maximum velocity.

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Why does every Cybertruck driver I glance at appear to be simultaneously peacocking for attention but also totally embarrassed, haunted by the unexamined knowledge that as a maneuver in a culture war they paid $100,000 for a car that doesn't work?), though I saw one in the Santa Cruz mountains this past weekend. It looked even more jarringly synthetic and stupid in a truck-style environment, as if 10 seconds on a semi-paved road would undo the whole rickety car. I felt, amid standard-issue disgust and mockery, personal embarrassment to be paying through the nose to live in a place where the coolest thing you can do is cosplay as a 6-year-old's idea of the coolest guy in the world.

 

Edited April 18 by NoName

[Francisco 2.0 31567]

In looking at this photo:

 

What's going to happen, warranty wise, when it rains on these vehicles, birds shit on them, etc?  Tesla has already explicitly warned against this kind of thing:

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html

 

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Cleaning the Exterior

To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.). Do not wait until Cybertruck is due for a complete wash. If necessary, use denatured alcohol to remove tar spots and stubborn grease stains, then immediately wash the area with water and a mild, non-detergent soap to remove the alcohol.

 

 

[Post Oak 20068]

Tesla is going the way of the Delorean. Fucking thing doesn't even have a flux capacitor 

[Post Oak 20068]

Any of you fellas have to use Barkeepers Friend on your ride.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/bar-keepers-friend-changed-my-cybertrucks-finish.14184/

 

 

My Cybertruck was delivered with quite a bit of staining on a lot of the panels. It’s looked to be from rain. I tried a bunch of softer cleaners first to get off the stains. Windex, waterless wash, full soap wash, generic stainless polish, etc.

None of that worked. So I tried some bar keepers friend that many other suggested. I tried it on a small area, and it looked fine. I then tried a door with lots of staining. I let it sit for one minute and then rinsed it off. The first time I applied very lightly and it dulled the stains, but didn’t remove them. The second time I scrubbed just a little more and it completely removed all the stains and created a perfectly uniform panel.

However, The door is now lighter in color and the finish is a bit more dull / less shiny. I don’t love this effect, but it appears I’m going to have to live with it since I already started. I followed the directions, didn’t let it sit too long and didn’t scrub hard. To help others to do this well and decide if this is for them, I would love some advice or feedback from others if they saw this, or if I did something wrong.

Pic: BKF used on rear door only

Important Edit: after finishing the whole truck, I noticed that the front panel in the picture below still doesn’t match the panel in the rear. I am thinking bar keepers friend didn’t change the panel as much as I thought. When both panels were done the same way they still look different. So if my post scared you away, don’t worry too much. The truck looks amazing with all panels done and I do prefer it better now.
 

 

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[aggie08 20211]

Jfc, the lengths people will go to to convince themselves that they aren't rubes who just got conned out of $100k.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13336]

Good ol' boy coming outta the Lampasas  Stripes to me in passing: "Truckload of ugly right there!"

 

[Stringer 1398]

Can I drive it in the rain?

Sure, just put it in car wash mode.

But note that car wash mode turns off your wipers…..so, good luck, I guess?

[Captainant 26861]

14 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Any of you fellas have to use Barkeepers Friend on your ride.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/bar-keepers-friend-changed-my-cybertrucks-finish.14184/

 

 

My Cybertruck was delivered with quite a bit of staining on a lot of the panels. It’s looked to be from rain. I tried a bunch of softer cleaners first to get off the stains. Windex, waterless wash, full soap wash, generic stainless polish, etc.

None of that worked. So I tried some bar keepers friend that many other suggested. I tried it on a small area, and it looked fine. I then tried a door with lots of staining. I let it sit for one minute and then rinsed it off. The first time I applied very lightly and it dulled the stains, but didn’t remove them. The second time I scrubbed just a little more and it completely removed all the stains and created a perfectly uniform panel.

However, The door is now lighter in color and the finish is a bit more dull / less shiny. I don’t love this effect, but it appears I’m going to have to live with it since I already started. I followed the directions, didn’t let it sit too long and didn’t scrub hard. To help others to do this well and decide if this is for them, I would love some advice or feedback from others if they saw this, or if I did something wrong.

Pic: BKF used on rear door only

Important Edit: after finishing the whole truck, I noticed that the front panel in the picture below still doesn’t match the panel in the rear. I am thinking bar keepers friend didn’t change the panel as much as I thought. When both panels were done the same way they still look different. So if my post scared you away, don’t worry too much. The truck looks amazing with all panels done and I do prefer it better now.
 

 

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It's more likely that the panels are different qualities or runs of stainless, and that's why the owner is seeing different surface finishes between treated panels. I think the acid in the barkeeper's friend is effectively doing a surface passivation - which is something Tesla should have done at the factory - which gives it a higher gloss and improved corrosion resistance properties. 

Edited April 18 by Captainant

[NoName 16196]

35 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

In looking at this photo:

 

What's going to happen, warranty wise, when it rains on these vehicles, birds shit on them, etc?  Tesla has already explicitly warned against this kind of thing:

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html

 

 

 

it's the absolute funniest part of this entire situation, they are essentially selling a truck that is going to look like shit due to, ya know, everything outdoors touching it.

and they are storing them outside an unknown period of time, because of this issue.

it's incredible. they are going to look so bad.

[TonyTexas 10377]

Elon is ok with that test because it was at a Jewish school. 

[Captainant 26861]

4 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Elon is ok with that test because it was at a Jewish school. 

Guadaloopy rn:

[Nivek 16643]

@Brisketexan OK, we missed out on the Trump Bibles, but I have other horrible ideas. Cyber Pet Rocks. It is like a pet rock, but with wireless technology that connects you to the earth without the dirt.

Alternative plan, we get those little plastic/glass jewels from the dollar store, and repackage that has Cyber Soil: become a master of tech and terraform your kingdom with your favorite color. (Ad featuring Soleil Moon Frye)

[NoName 16196]

oopsie

Elon Musk says in email that Tesla sent ‘incorrectly low’ severance packages to some laid-off employees

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/tesla-says-in-email-it-sent-some-incorrectly-low-severance-packages.html
 

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Tesla CEO Elon Musk sent an internal email on Wednesday, telling staffers that the company sent out some severance packages that were too low to a number of laid-off workers this week.

“As we reorganize Tesla it has come to my attention that some severance packages are incorrectly low,” Musk wrote in the brief email. “My apologies for this mistake. It is being corrected immediately.”

 

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13336]

30 minutes ago, Captainant said:

 

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

In looking at this photo:

 

What's going to happen, warranty wise, when it rains on these vehicles, birds shit on them, etc?  Tesla has already explicitly warned against this kind of thing:

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html

 

 

 

Warranty voided.

Edited April 18 by Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand

[InkaUtexas 24820]

1 hour ago, Nivek said:

@Brisketexan OK, we missed out on the Trump Bibles, but I have other horrible ideas. Cyber Pet Rocks. It is like a pet rock, but with wireless technology that connects you to the earth without the dirt.

Alternative plan, we get those little plastic/glass jewels from the dollar store, and repackage that has Cyber Soil: become a master of tech and terraform your kingdom with your favorite color. (Ad featuring Soleil Moon Frye)

Take my money 

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

In looking at this photo:

 

What's going to happen, warranty wise, when it rains on these vehicles, birds shit on them, etc?  Tesla has already explicitly warned against this kind of thing:

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html

 

 

 

Just don't go to HEB on a rainy day.

[Brisketexan 103143]

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

Take my money 

Just don't go to HEB on a rainy day.

Luckily, HEB won't even be open that day.

And as for Elon and Tesla, they have reached "full aggy" status to me (and as they say, "never go full aggy").  By "full aggy," I mean that their comical, laughable stupidity....is no longer entirely laughable, because it is negatively impacting my fellow Texans in the real world.  Just like I could laugh at aggy as they squeezed their own nuts, and whined incessantly about the BOMC....but I quit laughing when they killed 12 of their own as a direct result of their aggy stupidity, and have harmed a university that is a public asset and resource of my state, educating the people of my state...Elon and Tesla are following the same path.

I've laughed as Elon has repeatedly shot himself in the dick, and as his cult has consistently cheered him on with "brilliant shot, good sir!"  But now....the largest employer in my community is taking it in the shorts because of his stupidity.  A shitload of my fellow Central Texans have lost their jobs...and more are likely to follow.  Elon's utter stupidity is now directly harming my neighbors.  And it fucking pisses me off.

The Elon knob-gobblers, including most of our state leadership, needs to tell him to quit focusing on being a pathetic fucking edge lord, and either start being an actual fucking businessman or clear the fucking way for someone who will be.

[InkaUtexas 24820]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Luckily, HEB won't even be open that day.

And as for Elon and Tesla, they have reached "full aggy" status to me (and as they say, "never go full aggy").  By "full aggy," I mean that their comical, laughable stupidity....is no longer entirely laughable, because it is negatively impacting my fellow Texans in the real world.  Just like I could laugh at aggy as they squeezed their own nuts, and whined incessantly about the BOMC....but I quit laughing when they killed 12 of their own as a direct result of their aggy stupidity, and have harmed a university that is a public asset and resource of my state, educating the people of my state...Elon and Tesla are following the same path.

I've laughed as Elon has repeatedly shot himself in the dick, and as his cult has consistently cheered him on with "brilliant shot, good sir!"  But now....the largest employer in my community is taking it in the shorts because of his stupidity.  A shitload of my fellow Central Texans have lost their jobs...and more are likely to follow.  Elon's utter stupidity is now directly harming my neighbors.  And it fucking pisses me off.

The Elon knob-gobblers, including most of our state leadership, needs to tell him to quit focusing on being a pathetic fucking edge lord, and either start being an actual fucking businessman or clear the fucking way for someone who will be.

When they announced the plant was going into Del Valle I sat back and thought. Well shit, few of the people who live there can get a good job for good ole'Elon.

 

[Brisketexan 103143]

5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

When they announced the plant was going into Del Valle I sat back and thought. Well shit, few of the people who live there can get a good job for good ole'Elon.

 

Yep -- Tesla even partnered directly with Del Valle ISD to create a pipeline to decent jobs for kids there.  https://americanconstructors.com/insights/del-valle-isd-tesla-partnership/

We'll see if that survives.  And we'll see if there are any jobs for those kids to get once they graduate.  That those are questions pisses me off.  We should be excited about a major manufacturer setting up shop here.  Instead, it's a fucking shitshow of a goat rodeo staged inside a dumpster fire.  Fucking Elon is poison.

[InkaUtexas 24820]

10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep -- Tesla even partnered directly with Del Valle ISD to create a pipeline to decent jobs for kids there.  https://americanconstructors.com/insights/del-valle-isd-tesla-partnership/

We'll see if that survives.  And we'll see if there are any jobs for those kids to get once they graduate.  That those are questions pisses me off.  We should be excited about a major manufacturer setting up shop here.  Instead, it's a fucking shitshow of a goat rodeo staged inside a dumpster fire.  Fucking Elon is poison.

Buddy from school is an engineer focused on green energy. Has his Masters from LBJ/ILAS. Smart dude in school. Wife was tired of him traveling, convinced him to go work at the Tesla plant. So he applies, they tell him he is in, he quits. Gets a call saying well we are not sure when you will be onboarding. So he is properly fucked. Sick kid, no insurance, and no income.

 

[Brisketexan 103143]

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

Buddy from school is an engineer focused on green energy. Has his Masters from LBJ/ILAS. Smart dude in school. Wife was tired of him traveling, convinced him to go work at the Tesla plant. So he applies, they tell him he is in, he quits. Gets a call saying well we are not sure when you will be onboarding. So he is properly fucked. Sick kid, no insurance, and no income.

 

Exhibit 10,000 in "never, ever, ever trust Elon, or anything he touches."  It's truly fucking sad.  Shit, I have a kiddo looking for her first job, and we saw a couple of postings that are somewhat adjacent to her chosen field for some Musk companies.  Didn't even click on the listing.  No.  Fucking.  Way.

[Born to Run 6186]

Going to a car wash should not be complicated.  Good Lord.

Do not use on concrete. Do not taunt happy fun truck.

[immamac 41337]

44 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Buddy from school is an engineer focused on green energy. Has his Masters from LBJ/ILAS. Smart dude in school. Wife was tired of him traveling, convinced him to go work at the Tesla plant. So he applies, they tell him he is in, he quits. Gets a call saying well we are not sure when you will be onboarding. So he is properly fucked. Sick kid, no insurance, and no income.

 

Why would you quit your job without a start date for a new job unless you didn’t need the money? 

[InkaUtexas 24820]

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Why would you quit your job without a start date for a new job unless you didn’t need the money? 

Dude is smart, but in academics. I have seen quite a few people do that. They think job hunting is easy.

[Nivek 16643]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Luckily, HEB won't even be open that day.

And as for Elon and Tesla, they have reached "full aggy" status to me (and as they say, "never go full aggy").  By "full aggy," I mean that their comical, laughable stupidity....is no longer entirely laughable, because it is negatively impacting my fellow Texans in the real world.  Just like I could laugh at aggy as they squeezed their own nuts, and whined incessantly about the BOMC....but I quit laughing when they killed 12 of their own as a direct result of their aggy stupidity, and have harmed a university that is a public asset and resource of my state, educating the people of my state...Elon and Tesla are following the same path.

I've laughed as Elon has repeatedly shot himself in the dick, and as his cult has consistently cheered him on with "brilliant shot, good sir!"  But now....the largest employer in my community is taking it in the shorts because of his stupidity.  A shitload of my fellow Central Texans have lost their jobs...and more are likely to follow.  Elon's utter stupidity is now directly harming my neighbors.  And it fucking pisses me off.

The Elon knob-gobblers, including most of our state leadership, needs to tell him to quit focusing on being a pathetic fucking edge lord, and either start being an actual fucking businessman or clear the fucking way for someone who will be.

Oh my sweet summer child.  He is far too egotistical to think that he is the problem.   You might as well explain a Taylor series to a plant.  

[Schulz2.0 28616]

 

[InkaUtexas 24820]

Wish we could defund Musk's companies. And if he takes them out of US I am sure it violates industrial security.

[Chips O'Toole 1293]

That was so easy, anybody could have done it.  Also, look how smart I am for doing it!

[wildcat09 28387]

I wouldn’t be mad if Ukrainian intelligence assassinated Musk.

[Schulz2.0 28616]

4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I wouldn’t be mad if ISIS assassinated Musk.

I have a low bar.

[Ted Lange 15820]

4 hours ago, NoName said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13316825/Teslas-Cybertruck-disaster-Insider-reveals-safety-issues-scenes-EV-rollout-drone-footage-shows-hundreds-unfinished-trucks-backed-Texas-factory.html

Tesla's Cybertruck disaster: Insider reveals 'serious safety issues' behind scenes of EV rollout -

verified multiple more times in the thread below

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/canceled-delivery.14584/

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one of the replies

[Guadaloopy 10757]

3 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Elon is ok with that test because it was at a Jewish school. 

 

3 hours ago, Captainant said:

Guadaloopy rn:

 

Yes, FSD failed this particular test.  It's actually a very difficult test.  It doesn't take a very critical eye to watch this and see that the test was engineered to result in failure. 

- The dummy was dressed in neutral colors and earth tones to blend in with the background vehicle and background vegetation and wall. 

- The dummy remained stationary until very late in the test.

- The dummy was accelerated to a near instantaneous running speed at the last possible moment.

These conditions would be difficult for an unsuspecting human driver.

 

O'Dowd is a disingenuous and untrustworthy Tesla FSD critic.  He is a competitor, and he is not above manipulating and falsifying experiments to show the results that support his arguments. Previous videos from O'Dowd have showed a warning on the Tesla screen indicating that the accelerator is being pressed by the human operator to override FSD's automated actions.  O'Dowd has passed these off as FSD failures when the failure is actually due to the overriding actions by the human operator. 

This particular video has a warning on the screen that appears to be unrelated to FSD, but if multiple warnings are active, you can cycle through them to see the one you want.  There is something weird happening in this test.  In the first three tests, you can see the vehicle start to decelerate as it approaches the crosswalk and sees something, but it doesn't stop.  That leads me to believe that O'Dowd and his team are gaming the warning displays and actually slightly pressing the accelerator during these tests, effectively overriding FSD's automated actions.  I would like to see this test completed on a vehicle with no visible warnings on the screen.    

I would also like to see videos from O'Dowd with the technology he supports passing this same test.

[Neonmoon 38126]

8 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

I would also like to see videos from O'Dowd with the technology he supports passing this same test.

[chainsaw 9440]

13 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

 

 

Yes, FSD failed this particular test.  It's actually a very difficult test.  It doesn't take a very critical eye to watch this and see that the test was engineered to result in failure. 

- The dummy was dressed in neutral colors and earth tones to blend in with the background vehicle and background vegetation and wall. 

- The dummy remained stationary until very late in the test.

- The dummy was accelerated to a near instantaneous running speed at the last possible moment.

These conditions would be difficult for an unsuspecting human driver.

 

O'Dowd is a disingenuous and untrustworthy Tesla FSD critic.  He is a competitor, and he is not above manipulating and falsifying experiments to show the results that support his arguments. Previous videos from O'Dowd have showed a warning on the Tesla screen indicating that the accelerator is being pressed by the human operator to override FSD's automated actions.  O'Dowd has passed these off as FSD failures when the failure is actually due to the overriding actions by the human operator. 

This particular video has a warning on the screen that appears to be unrelated to FSD, but if multiple warnings are active, you can cycle through them to see the one you want.  There is something weird happening in this test.  In the first three tests, you can see the vehicle start to decelerate as it approaches the crosswalk and sees something, but it doesn't stop.  That leads me to believe that O'Dowd and his team are gaming the warning displays and actually slightly pressing the accelerator during these tests, effectively overriding FSD's automated actions.  I would like to see this test completed on a vehicle with no visible warnings on the screen.    

I would also like to see videos from O'Dowd with the technology he supports passing this same test.

[High Plains Drifter 10915]

56 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

 

 

Yes, FSD failed this particular test.  It's actually a very difficult test.  It doesn't take a very critical eye to watch this and see that the test was engineered to result in failure. 

- The dummy was dressed in neutral colors and earth tones to blend in with the background vehicle and background vegetation and wall. 

- The dummy remained stationary until very late in the test.

- The dummy was accelerated to a near instantaneous running speed at the last possible moment.

These conditions would be difficult for an unsuspecting human driver.

 

O'Dowd is a disingenuous and untrustworthy Tesla FSD critic.  He is a competitor, and he is not above manipulating and falsifying experiments to show the results that support his arguments. Previous videos from O'Dowd have showed a warning on the Tesla screen indicating that the accelerator is being pressed by the human operator to override FSD's automated actions.  O'Dowd has passed these off as FSD failures when the failure is actually due to the overriding actions by the human operator. 

This particular video has a warning on the screen that appears to be unrelated to FSD, but if multiple warnings are active, you can cycle through them to see the one you want.  There is something weird happening in this test.  In the first three tests, you can see the vehicle start to decelerate as it approaches the crosswalk and sees something, but it doesn't stop.  That leads me to believe that O'Dowd and his team are gaming the warning displays and actually slightly pressing the accelerator during these tests, effectively overriding FSD's automated actions.  I would like to see this test completed on a vehicle with no visible warnings on the screen.    

I would also like to see videos from O'Dowd with the technology he supports passing this same test.

 

I don't know anything about O'Dowd. But if FSD can't avoid hitting a kid in those circumstances, it absolutely should not be released to the general public. 

 

 

Edited April 18 by High Plains Drifter

[Redneck Mutha 7832]

Car Wash mode on any vehicle of mine better start blasting some mother fuckin' Rose Royce.

[choripan 770]

1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

 

 

Yes, FSD failed this particular test.  It's actually a very difficult test.  It doesn't take a very critical eye to watch this and see that the test was engineered to result in failure. 

- The dummy was dressed in neutral colors and earth tones to blend in with the background vehicle and background vegetation and wall. 

- The dummy remained stationary until very late in the test.

- The dummy was accelerated to a near instantaneous running speed at the last possible moment.

These conditions would be difficult for an unsuspecting human driver.

 

O'Dowd is a disingenuous and untrustworthy Tesla FSD critic.  He is a competitor, and he is not above manipulating and falsifying experiments to show the results that support his arguments. Previous videos from O'Dowd have showed a warning on the Tesla screen indicating that the accelerator is being pressed by the human operator to override FSD's automated actions.  O'Dowd has passed these off as FSD failures when the failure is actually due to the overriding actions by the human operator. 

This particular video has a warning on the screen that appears to be unrelated to FSD, but if multiple warnings are active, you can cycle through them to see the one you want.  There is something weird happening in this test.  In the first three tests, you can see the vehicle start to decelerate as it approaches the crosswalk and sees something, but it doesn't stop.  That leads me to believe that O'Dowd and his team are gaming the warning displays and actually slightly pressing the accelerator during these tests, effectively overriding FSD's automated actions.  I would like to see this test completed on a vehicle with no visible warnings on the screen.    

I would also like to see videos from O'Dowd with the technology he supports passing this same test.

Good example of why no system that only uses cameras can be safe, or why Tesla is getting lapped and is stuck at Level 2.

With a proper system and sensor fusion, you would have caught the kid in time. Radar? Nope, not metallic enough. Cameras? Nope, obviously. LIDAR? Yep!

That's why you need all three. They serve different roles to fill gaps in the capabilities of the others.

 

[C-Man 26535]

This "flaw" get posted already: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/cybertruck-touchscreen-five-hour-reset/

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Two and a half months in and almost 3,400 miles down the road, a TikToker said that his Cybertruck crapped out after he took it to the beach.

“The Cybertruck does not work anymore, @captian.ad claimed in a video posted on Monday.

The video shows him opening the front door to reveal the dashboard touchscreen is completely dead.

“The manual recommends to reset the screen,” @captian.ad explained. To do that, you normally just hold down two buttons on each side of the steering wheel for 30 seconds until the screen resets and displays a Tesla logo.

But instead of that happening, the truck made a weird popping sound after a few seconds before the AC powered down. @captian.ad also said he heard some strange noises coming from the dashboard, but after waiting a good thirty seconds there was still nothing on the touchscreen. 

Meanwhile, the backseat screens looked like they were working fine.

According to @captian.ad, he’d been to the beach that day and washed sand out of the Cybertruck later at a car wash.

“That’s the only thing I’ve done that’s different,” he said, wondering what the reason for the problem might be.

After a couple of minutes of the screen still not rebooting, he noted that if he presses the brakes the lights come on and the truck seems like it’s ready to drive.

“But what good is driving if you don’t know your speed, your rearview mirror, any info?” he asked. “You’re driving this thing blind.”

“I’m not driving it without any info,” he said. “It’s unsafe.”

Cybertruck owners have been plagued with early kinks in the system as the trucks rolled out. Last week, customer forums started filling up with updates from the company that their deliveries would be delayed, with some customers speculating that the reason was problems with an accelerator pedal.

Tesla also recently laid off about 10% of its staff, with workers sharing stories about receiving the news by email.

Customers who bought the Cyberbeast, a premium edition of the vehicle that’s been rolled out early, also shared stories on social media about problems. One who posted on X about his issues at the beginning of April said he wasn’t able to get his truck going again after it broke down just 21 miles in.

Another logged five critical failures before driving 40 miles, making a YouTube video documenting his woes.

In a follow-up video, @captian.ad said he’d talked with a service technician, praising the promptness of their support. In the morning the car was working, so he decided to take it to work.

“Quick update on the Cybertruck, or as many of you call it, the Tesla paperweight,” he said.

The technician told him that there was a known issue with the Cybertruck where, when you do a screen reset, it takes five hours to reboot instead of the expected two minutes.

The technician told him he’d log the issue as another complaint and said it would probably be fixed in the next software patch.

“Five hours to reset a computer though?” the bewildered TikToker asked. “And this is the new hardware.” 

“All I wanna know is: Where do I get that computer so I can take it to work,” he joked. “Sorry boss, I’m resetting my computer, I’ll get to that in a little bit.

 

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1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

The dummy was dressed in neutral colors and earth tones to blend in with the background vehicle and background vegetation and wall. 

Here in Austin, we call this just another day at a school.  Kids wear all kids of stuff that is not bright yellow or bright orange. Including actual camouflage as well as Minecraft stuff that blends in well.

1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

- The dummy remained stationary until very late in the test.

- The dummy was accelerated to a near instantaneous running speed at the last possible moment.

These conditions would be difficult for an unsuspecting human driver.

As the parent of young kids, and somebody who takes their kid to school frequently, I see this way more often than I would like (thankfully with other peoples kids, mine are good about it).

I assume any kid within a 5 feet of a curb is going to randomly and rapidly accelerate into the street.

Edited April 18 by atomheartbevo

[Foosters 17624]

the fault obviously lies with the mother for dressing their child in drab colors

[Neonmoon 38126]

[F250 28379]

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Here in Austin, we call this just another day at a school.  Kids wear all kids of stuff that is not bright yellow or bright orange. Including actual camouflage as well as Minecraft stuff that blends in well.

As the parent of young kids, and somebody who takes their kid to school frequently, I see this way more often than I would like (thankfully with other peoples kids, mine are good about it).

I assume any kid within a 5 feet of a curb is going to randomly and rapidly accelerate into the street.

Exactly, this is a scenario that can occur in any school zone in the country.

 

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6 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

How long before someone tweets the economic benefits of reinstating slavery and Elon replies with an "interesting"?

[InkaUtexas 24820]

2 minutes ago, F250 said:

How long before someone tweets the economic benefits of reinstating slavery and Elon replies with an "interesting"?

Well he is South African and would see it as a way to reduce payment to his workers.

Also, how does he always happen to find these hot takes? He have a staff searching for shit he can respond to?

Edited April 18 by InkaUtexas