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Just now, troph said:

LT up 17+ 

Just bonkers.  What really blows my mind is thinking back to the last time it filled (2015?) over the course of a week or so.  I still remember heading out on Lake ATX about 10 days later and almost hitting a telephone pole floating about an inch below the surface.  

Watching this it's hard to fathom how much water there was that fell out of the clouds back then.

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30 minutes ago, Mantis Toboggan, MD said:

It seems really tasteless to follow a grieving dad around with a camera. Even with his consent…he is broken and is in no place to push back against media overreaching.

I completely understand your sentiment here. On the other hand, he has an important story to tell and if he’s willing to tell it, that’s his right to do it and in this case he was able to tell it without any voiceover from a reporter. I give him credit for being a brave father in the face of enormous tragedy.

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1 minute ago, Planet Houston said:

Bullshit

Dude, he’s a father that had a kid at La Junta. Let’s not attack a father that had a kid in the middle of this.

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Just now, royiv said:

Dude, he’s a father that had a kid at La Junta. Let’s not attack a father that had a kid in the middle of this.

Its fine. Could be bullshit. I certainly hope everything is looked into. Thats kind of what Im getting at. I think theres a chance they couldve been more on top of it and slipped into some bad habits over time. 

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1 minute ago, BlackCat said:

Its fine. Could be bullshit. I certainly hope everything is looked into. Thats kind of what Im getting at. I think theres a chance they couldve been more on top of it and slipped into some bad habits over time. 

You’ve got all my respect. Hunt has a special place in my life having spent many summers at La Junta and way too many excruciating days at Waldemar for the closing ceremonies when my older sister was a camper.

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10 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Just bonkers.  What really blows my mind is thinking back to the last time it filled (2015?) over the course of a week or so.  I still remember heading out on Lake ATX about 10 days later and almost hitting a telephone pole floating about an inch below the surface.  

Watching this it's hard to fathom how much water there was that fell out of the clouds back then.

2018, over 20 feet in 24 hours. 

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Just now, royiv said:

You’ve got all my respect. Hunt has a special place in my life having spent many summers at La Junta and way too many excruciating days at Waldemar for the closing ceremonies when my older sister was a camper.

I bet we have suffered Waldemar pickup in anonymity together. Finally being freed onto 1340 is cold beer after mowing the lawn level good. 

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7 minutes ago, royiv said:

Dude, he’s a father that had a kid at La Junta. Let’s not attack a father that had a kid in the middle of this.

 

3 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

Its fine. Could be bullshit. I certainly hope everything is looked into. Thats kind of what Im getting at. I think theres a chance they couldve been more on top of it and slipped into some bad habits over time. 

I’m sorry. Obviously a lot of emotion among a lot of us affected (and frankly forgot who was posting - my sincere apologies @BlackCat).

We were with a couple last night in Lakeway that were also blessed to pick up their son from La Junta and daughter from Mystic. I don’t mean to be callous and I really have stayed away from the blame game until this lash-out response. But my general feeling is there was much more the camps could have done to avoid this sort of tragedy. I’ll go back to avoiding the Monday morning QBing, I’m sorry  

 

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Just now, Planet Houston said:

 

I’m sorry. Obviously a lot of emotion among a lot of us affected (and frankly forgot who was posting - my sincere apologies @BlackCat).

We were with a couple last night in Lakeway that were also blessed to pick up their son from La Junta and daughter from Mystic. I don’t mean to be callous and I really have stayed away from the blame game until this lash-out response. But my general feeling is there was much more the camps could have done to avoid this sort of tragedy. I’ll go back to avoiding the Monday morning QBing, I’m sorry  

 

No worries at all man. I think its all gotta be looked into. Like someone mentioned before, the scoreboard says a whole bunch of dead kids. Glad your friends kids are ok. 

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13 minutes ago, troph said:

2018, over 20 feet in 24 hours. 

I think I was thinking of this one.  I was living in SA in 2018, so I know I couldn't have been on Lake ATX then.  It was more like 7 to 10 days of heavy rain over LBJ/Marble Falls area thing.  And right before that the lake was close to an all-time low...

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I've gotta say, I have probably spent too much time refreshing this thread the past two days.  I had to turn off that interview with the dad searching through the Mystic campus for remnants from his daughter.  Too much.

As a father of two aged 20 and 18 that (to this point) have avoided catastrophes, I still can't wrap my brain aroudn what those parents are going through.  Thoughts and prayers for all affected from Tennessee tonight.  Hug your kids.  Too much.

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I completely understand your sentiment here. On the other hand, he has an important story to tell and if he’s willing to tell it, that’s his right to do it and in this case he was able to tell it without any voiceover from a reporter. I give him credit for being a brave father in the face of enormous tragedy.

Absolutely this. As a former journalist, albeit in the frivolous realm of sportswriting, it’s important to tell these stories. Tastefully, of course.
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22 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

But my general feeling is there was much more the camps could have done to avoid this sort of tragedy. I’ll go back to avoiding the Monday morning QBing, I’m sorry

I think it’s probable that much more could have been done while also acknowledging that this was an unpredictably incredible catastrophe.  camp mystic has been there on the river for 100 years taking great care of little girls who loved to call it their summer home.  I spent many summers at la junta and saw the river flood twice, and both times the water never got near the cabins.  the guadalupe has flooded a million times since the camps have been there but I doubt it’s ever flooded quite like this.  and it did happen incredibly fast and in the middle of the night.  it’s an absolutely and unbelievably awful tragedy but I don’t understand the anger towards camp mystic.  that’s a great place and they loved those girls. 

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Yes, those poor little girls. It breaks my heart what they had to go through.

I have an 8 year old little boy. And seeing the squish mellows like he has kills me. And understanding the mentality of a little kid. And them trying to figure out what to do, and these little girls getting washed down the river scared, lost, and wanting their family. It is fucking awful.

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5 minutes ago, futureman said:

I think it’s probable that much more could have been done while also acknowledging that this was an unpredictably incredible catastrophe.  camp mystic has been there on the river for 100 years taking great care of little girls who loved to call it their summer home.  I spent many summers at la junta and saw the river flood twice, and both times the water never got near the cabins.  the guadalupe has flooded a million times since the camps have been there but I doubt it’s ever flooded quite like this.  and it did happen incredibly fast and in the middle of the night.  it’s an absolutely and unbelievably awful tragedy but I don’t understand the anger towards camp mystic.  that’s a great place and they loved those girls. 

But you can bet that the plaintiff's bar has all of this teed up for some big time lawsuits.  TJH's runners are probably working on holiday overtime.

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3 hours ago, The Dog said:

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HEB on the way

Fuck, I love HEB.

Just logging back in. My wife and I had to get out of the house this afternoon to stop watching news and doomscrolling, then went to her brother's early birthday dinner. After that, we met a buddyfor drinks because we needed to not be home. Now I'm fucking crying again.

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8 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

But you can bet that the plaintiff's bar has all of this teed up for some big time lawsuits.  TJH's runners are probably working on holiday overtime.

Not the place for this. Read the room.

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12 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Fuck, I love HEB.

Just logging back in. My wife and I had to get out of the house this afternoon to stop watching news and doomscrolling, then went to her brother's early birthday dinner. After that, we met a buddyfor drinks because we needed to not be home. Now I'm fucking crying again.

It has been difficult not to spiral. Can’t even begin to imagine what this feels like for families with children that are missing.

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4 hours ago, Lhorn said:

I can’t think of many things more heartbreaking than dads wandering through rubble looking for their precious daughters that they know are dead.  

Reading that article just wrecked me into a sobbing mess. Our son is 7 yo and I cannot imagine the grief of losing a child in such a tragic manner. 

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3 minutes ago, royiv said:

It has been difficult not to spiral. Can’t even begin to imagine what this feels like for families with children that are missing.

I'm running out of adjectives -- unfathomable, shocking, tragic, etc. I've written so many texts in the last 24 hours, I'm almost numb.

I didn't know them but former patients of my FIL (dentist) were washed away with their grandkids and all four are dead. Their son (and the kids' father) went to ESD with my wife. Could you imagine that -- your parents both gone. Oh, and here's a bonus, your kids are gone with them. Fucking nightmare fuel.

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Not sure if anyone posted about it but I just learned that Heart O The Hills director Jane Ragsdale was killed in the flooding. Neither HotH or Camp Stewart were in session but both got hit. 

I went to Stewart for 5 years and my grandparents were friends with the Ragsdales. I never met Jane but Si and Kathy were great people from what I remember. 

I'm fortunate not to know anyone who had kids camping this year down there.

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6 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Not sure if anyone posted about it but I just learned that Heart O The Hills director Jane Ragsdale was killed in the flooding. Neither HotH or Camp Stewart were in session but both got hit. 

I went to Stewart for 5 years and my grandparents were friends with the Ragsdales. I never met Jane but Si and Kathy were great people from what I remember. 

I'm fortunate not to know anyone who had kids camping this year down there.

I did 5 years there too from’87-‘91. Jeeper and Jane were around the whole time. Very sad indeed. 

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I’m up in Colorado picking up my youngest, a teenager, from camp.   The camp director of the Colorado camp broke down in tears at the closing ceremony today and they had a long moment of silence for all the kids and staff lost.

This has absolutely gut punched me as it seems like a blink of an eye we were taking our daughter out to camps in the Hill Country when she was the age of these precious little girls.  I’m sure we know someone affected as we lived in Austin for fourteen years and thirty in Texas overall but haven’t heard anything yet.  Saying that, I’ve never had anything affect me the way this event has…physically ill with sadness.

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6 hours ago, BlackCat said:

Thats what is taking place. Ive been out there twice now and my body is completely out of whack at this point. You just cant help but expect the worst. The search teams are working extremely hard but in my opinion the reason the officials arent being more forthcoming, is because they're trying to figure out when they have to tell everyone they cant even find most of the bodies.

There were many very sad takeaways from Wimberley but one of the acutely worst ones was that the Charba and McComb families never found their 4 and 6-year-olds. The brutal and unbridled tragedy of losing a (very) young child is an unimaginable thing. Not finding them and at least getting  a chance to say goodbye and lay them to rest is another level that is beyond comprehension. As you point out, this could be playing out on a scale that is beyond terrible and sad.

Just a nightmare all around. 

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