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Just now, troph said:

LT up 17+ 

Just bonkers.  What really blows my mind is thinking back to the last time it filled (2015?) over the course of a week or so.  I still remember heading out on Lake ATX about 10 days later and almost hitting a telephone pole floating about an inch below the surface.  

Watching this it's hard to fathom how much water there was that fell out of the clouds back then.

Posted
1 minute ago, Planet Houston said:

Bullshit

Dude, he’s a father that had a kid at La Junta. Let’s not attack a father that had a kid in the middle of this.

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Posted
Just now, royiv said:

Dude, he’s a father that had a kid at La Junta. Let’s not attack a father that had a kid in the middle of this.

Its fine. Could be bullshit. I certainly hope everything is looked into. Thats kind of what Im getting at. I think theres a chance they couldve been more on top of it and slipped into some bad habits over time. 

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1 minute ago, BlackCat said:

Its fine. Could be bullshit. I certainly hope everything is looked into. Thats kind of what Im getting at. I think theres a chance they couldve been more on top of it and slipped into some bad habits over time. 

You’ve got all my respect. Hunt has a special place in my life having spent many summers at La Junta and way too many excruciating days at Waldemar for the closing ceremonies when my older sister was a camper.

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10 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Just bonkers.  What really blows my mind is thinking back to the last time it filled (2015?) over the course of a week or so.  I still remember heading out on Lake ATX about 10 days later and almost hitting a telephone pole floating about an inch below the surface.  

Watching this it's hard to fathom how much water there was that fell out of the clouds back then.

2018, over 20 feet in 24 hours. 

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Posted
Just now, royiv said:

You’ve got all my respect. Hunt has a special place in my life having spent many summers at La Junta and way too many excruciating days at Waldemar for the closing ceremonies when my older sister was a camper.

I bet we have suffered Waldemar pickup in anonymity together. Finally being freed onto 1340 is cold beer after mowing the lawn level good. 

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Posted
Just now, Planet Houston said:

 

I’m sorry. Obviously a lot of emotion among a lot of us affected (and frankly forgot who was posting - my sincere apologies @BlackCat).

We were with a couple last night in Lakeway that were also blessed to pick up their son from La Junta and daughter from Mystic. I don’t mean to be callous and I really have stayed away from the blame game until this lash-out response. But my general feeling is there was much more the camps could have done to avoid this sort of tragedy. I’ll go back to avoiding the Monday morning QBing, I’m sorry  

 

No worries at all man. I think its all gotta be looked into. Like someone mentioned before, the scoreboard says a whole bunch of dead kids. Glad your friends kids are ok. 

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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, troph said:

2018, over 20 feet in 24 hours. 

I think I was thinking of this one.  I was living in SA in 2018, so I know I couldn't have been on Lake ATX then.  It was more like 7 to 10 days of heavy rain over LBJ/Marble Falls area thing.  And right before that the lake was close to an all-time low...

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I completely understand your sentiment here. On the other hand, he has an important story to tell and if he’s willing to tell it, that’s his right to do it and in this case he was able to tell it without any voiceover from a reporter. I give him credit for being a brave father in the face of enormous tragedy.

Absolutely this. As a former journalist, albeit in the frivolous realm of sportswriting, it’s important to tell these stories. Tastefully, of course.
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Posted
22 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

But my general feeling is there was much more the camps could have done to avoid this sort of tragedy. I’ll go back to avoiding the Monday morning QBing, I’m sorry

I think it’s probable that much more could have been done while also acknowledging that this was an unpredictably incredible catastrophe.  camp mystic has been there on the river for 100 years taking great care of little girls who loved to call it their summer home.  I spent many summers at la junta and saw the river flood twice, and both times the water never got near the cabins.  the guadalupe has flooded a million times since the camps have been there but I doubt it’s ever flooded quite like this.  and it did happen incredibly fast and in the middle of the night.  it’s an absolutely and unbelievably awful tragedy but I don’t understand the anger towards camp mystic.  that’s a great place and they loved those girls. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

But you can bet that the plaintiff's bar has all of this teed up for some big time lawsuits.  TJH's runners are probably working on holiday overtime.

Not the place for this. Read the room.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Fuck, I love HEB.

Just logging back in. My wife and I had to get out of the house this afternoon to stop watching news and doomscrolling, then went to her brother's early birthday dinner. After that, we met a buddyfor drinks because we needed to not be home. Now I'm fucking crying again.

It has been difficult not to spiral. Can’t even begin to imagine what this feels like for families with children that are missing.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Lhorn said:

I can’t think of many things more heartbreaking than dads wandering through rubble looking for their precious daughters that they know are dead.  

Reading that article just wrecked me into a sobbing mess. Our son is 7 yo and I cannot imagine the grief of losing a child in such a tragic manner. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, royiv said:

It has been difficult not to spiral. Can’t even begin to imagine what this feels like for families with children that are missing.

I'm running out of adjectives -- unfathomable, shocking, tragic, etc. I've written so many texts in the last 24 hours, I'm almost numb.

I didn't know them but former patients of my FIL (dentist) were washed away with their grandkids and all four are dead. Their son (and the kids' father) went to ESD with my wife. Could you imagine that -- your parents both gone. Oh, and here's a bonus, your kids are gone with them. Fucking nightmare fuel.

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Not sure if anyone posted about it but I just learned that Heart O The Hills director Jane Ragsdale was killed in the flooding. Neither HotH or Camp Stewart were in session but both got hit. 

I went to Stewart for 5 years and my grandparents were friends with the Ragsdales. I never met Jane but Si and Kathy were great people from what I remember. 

I'm fortunate not to know anyone who had kids camping this year down there.

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6 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Not sure if anyone posted about it but I just learned that Heart O The Hills director Jane Ragsdale was killed in the flooding. Neither HotH or Camp Stewart were in session but both got hit. 

I went to Stewart for 5 years and my grandparents were friends with the Ragsdales. I never met Jane but Si and Kathy were great people from what I remember. 

I'm fortunate not to know anyone who had kids camping this year down there.

I did 5 years there too from’87-‘91. Jeeper and Jane were around the whole time. Very sad indeed. 

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, BlackCat said:

Thats what is taking place. Ive been out there twice now and my body is completely out of whack at this point. You just cant help but expect the worst. The search teams are working extremely hard but in my opinion the reason the officials arent being more forthcoming, is because they're trying to figure out when they have to tell everyone they cant even find most of the bodies.

There were many very sad takeaways from Wimberley but one of the acutely worst ones was that the Charba and McComb families never found their 4 and 6-year-olds. The brutal and unbridled tragedy of losing a (very) young child is an unimaginable thing. Not finding them and at least getting  a chance to say goodbye and lay them to rest is another level that is beyond comprehension. As you point out, this could be playing out on a scale that is beyond terrible and sad.

Just a nightmare all around. 

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Posted
18 hours ago, dcbc said:

Yes.  My sister-in-law  knows their cousin.  Her grandmother is picking her up from camp and has to bear that awful news.  They were camping and their camper/vehicle was swept away in the floods.

I’ve known he and his extended family for years.   Absolutely gut wrenching.   
 

Also had one of my fraternity brothers’ daughters at Mystic.  Thank God she made it.   I’ve been sick to my stomach thinking about it.  

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https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

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NWS issued a flash flood warning at 1:14 a.m. Friday for a portion of Kerr County – where the majority of flood-related deaths have been reported. But it would be at least four hours before any county or city government entity posted directions to evacuate on social media. City and county officials have yet to fully explain the timing of their Facebook posts surrounding the height of the flood or other ways they might have notified people near the water. 

 

This strikes me as extremely fucked up in a multitude of ways. 4 hours later. Posting it on Facebook and pretending that's where people get their news.  

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5 minutes ago, Chopper said:

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

This strikes me as extremely fucked up in a multitude of ways. 4 hours later. Posting it on Facebook and pretending that's where people get their news.  

Sadly, a fuck ton of people use Facebook and social media as their only “news” source, especially in rural areas. I’m not excusing these officials by any means. They probably get their news from facebook too. Which explains a lot of why we are where we are. 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I think it's because that's the only place they get their news. 

I don't think that's the case anymore. Either way many people have stopped using it over the years -- or if they're less than 50 years old they may never have used it -- and the site is antagonistic at best towards its users and real information, anyway.  

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21 minutes ago, Chopper said:

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

This strikes me as extremely fucked up in a multitude of ways. 4 hours later. Posting it on Facebook and pretending that's where people get their news.  

Especially since Facebook's algorithm doesn't push "news" first - it pushes whatever it thinks will get the most engagement. A post about weather early in the morning? Nah, you probably want to see how Democrats are Satan. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Cajun said:

As of this morning -

 

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Travis up 18, not sure the inflows but I believe dams upstream still open. I bet most of Hamilton, cow and big sandy creeks have pushed their water in already. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, troph said:

Can we split the tragedy from the ongoing weather thread now please? 

@immamacand @blacklab

Considering we have a CR subject and the likely rescue and fallout that this matter will cause, I think we should have a July 4th Hill Country subject in the DT.

But that’s totally IMO and this is y’all’s rodeo.

 

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