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On 8/13/2025 at 1:41 PM, Red Five said:

"Those are fun for the whole family."

Scrolling through, wondering when The Great Outdoors would pop up 

It buzzed me.

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I forget about Cool Runnings.

 Our Father, who art in Calgary, Bobsled be thy name. Thy kingdom come, gold medals won, on Earth as it is in Turn Seven. With Liberty and Justice for Jamaica and Haile Selassie. Amen.

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On 8/13/2025 at 8:53 AM, bschoolprof said:

Huge fan. Dell Griffith is his best role , so I love the title.
 

Who’s Harry Crumb via HBO was hilarious to 12 year old me. Peak Shawnee Smith.  I’m quite confident it doesn’t hold up. 

Johnny LaRue FTMFW. 

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Watching the Astros on the CW last night (I forgot this channel even existed.) I saw a commercial for Law and Order: Toronto: Criminal Intent.

Half way through that commercial I thought this is the perfect show for SCTV to spoof with Candy playing the over the top cop with the bad plaid sport coat, shaggy half and aviators.  

Joe Flynn would have to be the DA .

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Damn.... The man died 31 years ago and I had a hard time holding it together watching that Catherine O'Hara eulogy.  For some reason, the CHP shutting down the 405 & 10 broke me.  Can't wait to watch this.

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On 9/6/2025 at 9:12 PM, austingirl said:

The Great Outdoors is my favorite movie from when I was a kid - we recorded it off TV at some point in the late 80s/early 90s, and watched that tape a couple times a year until some point in the early 2000s when my parents moved on to Blu Ray and I had gone to college. I wish they still had the tape just because of the commercials, but alas, it is no more. The good news is that we've been able to stream it and now my kids have seen it and love it. He was such a treasure, and it still weirds me out that I'm now older than he was when he died.

Watched it with my daughter a couple of weeks ago.

My favorite line from Stripes:

Image of How's it going, Eisenhower?

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Wasn't expecting McCaulay connection, but there it was.

Thought his son was kind of meh.

John's dad died when Candy was 5 and it wrecked his life, but they didn't address substance abuse at all.

C'mon.  Don't fucking sugar coat it.

 

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I enjoyed it. Candy was a wonderful, generous funny man. 
 

That said cocaine was never mentioned once in the documentary while they acknowledged alcohol abuse and chain smoking. 
 

I didn’t love the blame Hollywood for everything schtick either. If he just wanted to stay home with the kids, he had enough money to do that. I think he enjoyed the action. 

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2 hours ago, thunderlounge said:

I liked it. Good overall mix, and didn’t senselessly run down a man that’s been gone 31 years. No reason to get into that shit.

 

 

It's not running him down to be factual about a HUUUUGELY contributing factor in his early demise. Not addressing it is negligent or deliberately deceptive.

I don't want to hear about it to cast him in a bad light; but rather to see how it impacted his life, and death.  The dude is almost universally loved as  a gentle and caring person.  DRugs don't GAF.  That's the bigger point, not attacking a good man's character.  I hope that makes sense.

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Yeah, Hanks went borderline hagiography with this one. Not saying anyone was looking to see all of his dirty laundry aired. The intro w/ Murray when he openly talked about how difficult it would be to find anyone who could relate a story about John doing something boorish set the stage. Everyone loved him and he was a sincere, relatable dude. That sentiment and his image wasn't going to be damaged 30+ years after his death by at least acknowledging his drug use/abuse.

The highlight was Aykroyd's eugology ("John was grand") and the closing of the interstate for his funeral procession. 

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Ms Llama and I were introduced to John by SCTV, which followed an odd NBC Friday night show of some kind.  We watched SCTV once and were hooked. My personal favorites were the “Fireside Chats with Mayor Tommy Shanks.” Dotard should give those a shot, so to speak.

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22 hours ago, Iceman said:

It's not running him down to be factual about a HUUUUGELY contributing factor in his early demise. Not addressing it is negligent or deliberately deceptive.

I don't want to hear about it to cast him in a bad light; but rather to see how it impacted his life, and death.  The dude is almost universally loved as  a gentle and caring person.  DRugs don't GAF.  That's the bigger point, not attacking a good man's character.  I hope that makes sense.

I'm with Iceman on this one. Whenever they mentioned doctor advice it was lose weight and stop drinking. I didn't hear mention of smoking. As you say, it's not tearing a person down to mention this and other habits/addictions in a biography. These aren't crimes or a reflection of his character. They are part of his struggle to succeed, deal with fame, deal with over-empathy for his fellow humans, or something. Revealing this is humanizing not character assassination.

If the filmmaker, C. Hanks, wanted hagiography, then don't just repeat the same stuff two hours. The whole thing was lazy. 

The good part? I did like hearing the testimony as to his character, talent, and path. I'd seen Catherine O'Hara's brilliant eulogy before the film. I'm sort of indifferent to using his son for so much of the VO. Tom Hank's description of their work together in Splash was insightful. The way Candy's eyes changed in some of the rude interviews was enticing but not explored enough. The best exchange was when the interviewer tells him he's a funny guy. So much is conveyed in Candy's ironic tone. 

Would have been better at 75 minutes if they are not going to expand further than they did.

I've been late coming to John Candy's work. He was brilliant in Splash. He grounds the movie even with his short amount of screentime. I didn't see Uncle Buck until 2002. Fuck. Great movie and unforgettable character.

I wish I knew more about him. And, closing down the 405 for his funeral procession was stunning. I was in LA one time when they did that for the president. It really hit home what he was to so many people. I actually didn't know that.

I ramble. Great subject for what's an ok documentary. 

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If you want some depth and variety, check out SCTV’s library of archival episodes.  His character Johnny LaRue was truly and grandly needy and yearning for fame. Dr. Tongue, Yosh Schmenge, Dr Wainwright, the Unctuous William B, the Weedhopping Pippi Longsocks, Orson Welles, Billy Sol Hurok, a wonderful cast of distinct characters!  I’m forgetting a hundred.

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Apple TV+ has a great doc on Steve Martin (STEVE! martin: a documentary in 2 pieces) and one of the more powerful moments is when Steve is going through his personal library of old scripts and he starts talking about Planes, Trains and Automobiles. He is moved to tears when he describes the scene where Neal returns to the depot to find Del sitting alone, and Del admits that his wife is dead and he doesn't have a home. Apparently there was a lot more to that scene that didn't make it into the film, and Steve talks very movingly about just how powerful Candy's performance was during filming, and how glad he was that the camera was over his shoulder capturing John's full face because Steve couldn't contain his emotions during John's delivery.

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In the 80s, I'd visit friends in Austin. We were all young. They were law school students and an architecture student. We'd go to County Line on Friday night then return to somebody's apartment to watch Dallas (I didn't care about it, but loved the company) then Second City would come on. I was blown away. 

I recall their take on some important movies with The Man Who Would be King Who Would Be Pope. They did Peter O'Toole, Richard Harris, and Richard Burton just  shouting I want to be Pope! No, I want to be king!

They also had Redundancy Theatre where there was a western. Murderin' killers are on the way a comin'. 

Where do such ideas come from?

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8 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Apple TV+ has a great doc on Steve Martin (STEVE! martin: a documentary in 2 pieces) and one of the more powerful moments is when Steve is going through his personal library of old scripts and he starts talking about Planes, Trains and Automobiles. He is moved to tears when he describes the scene where Neal returns to the depot to find Del sitting alone, and Del admits that his wife is dead and he doesn't have a home. Apparently there was a lot more to that scene that didn't make it into the film, and Steve talks very movingly about just how powerful Candy's performance was during filming, and how glad he was that the camera was over his shoulder capturing John's full face because Steve couldn't contain his emotions during John's delivery.

 

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I haven't seen this yet, but what are we upset about it glossing over?  He was an obese guy, who smoked and had heart disease all throughout his family.  Obviously wasn't healthy.

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11 minutes ago, futureman said:

I always just thought he drank a lot and smoked cigarettes.  was he into heavier shit?

By all indications he did coke in the early 80's, like everyone.  While certainly not good for your heart, likely had nothing to do with him having a heart attack in 1994.

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