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6 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Before Elmo reinstated him to Twitter, Fuentes had migrated to Gab, whose CEO knows a thing or two about being deplatformed in that his hellsite had that happen after the synagogue shooting in 2018. After banging around for a couple of years, Gab gained users and money after Jan. 6th and has managed to stay afloat ever since. Nothing of consequence will happen to Nick, it never seems to with these types.

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Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

So, does the Trump administration and DOJ classify Groypers as a terrorist organization? 

 

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47 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

@'stache We moved from Georgia (which isn't near as bad as Oklahoma or Florida) to Oregon a couple of years ago and I'm so thankful my daughter isn't in the South anymore as she ages. Granted we have very privileged lives with my wife and I being able to work completely remotely, or were able to at the time, and plenty of savings.

There's plenty of problems in Portland with actual homeless issues, cost of living even though it's the cheapest on the West Coast for major cities, and of course our taxes definitely higher, but I wouldn't trade it for living in a state where women are forced to die from pregnancy complications because doctors are too scared of being imprisoned.

A good friend recently moved his family to Seattle and we'd consider the PNW, but as you mention, housing costs on the west coast are concerning, the equity in my current house would probably not even cover a downpayment out there. My wife has family in the Northeast and we're going to a wedding in a few weeks and are going to have some family discussions about how we might fit in that area. Employment will be an issue. I'm a law firm lawyer with a modest book of my own business most of which woudln't be portable to the coasts so I'd probably be starting from scratch. It's actually a non-political reason we'd consider moving too, I'm sick of billable hours, and there aren't a lot of high paying in-house legal positions in my area. My wife is a school counselor but is still working through some higher end certifications, it might delay us for a while, but the real issue is that so many people in Oklahoma education are bailing and she's been moving up like a rocket. We suspect that on the coasts where people actually care about public education there would be a lot more competition for her to find a nice well paid position. Kind of ironic that the main reason we'd be moving, education, is also a potential hurdle for the exact reason we'd move, better education. We've talked about this on and off for years but this is the first time we're actually going to take the next steps of determining feasibility.

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20 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Any one of us goes into a biker bar and starts yelling how bikers are trash, scum, and the lowest of the low. How long do you think we last before getting seriously hurt or killed? Go and sit in the middle of a Eagles game with your Cowboys shit on, hurling insults at all the people around you. What's the amount of time before you get stomped out? All of us conduct ourselves in a way to promote self preservation. As soon as you start with hateful rhetoric your life expectancy goes down. People shouldn't be violent, but people also shouldn't poke the bear. Most of us know that and conduct ourselves accordingly. Charlie Kirk did not and didn't make it to year 31. 

So many right wingers are pointing the finger at liberals today instead of looking in the mirror. If Charlie Kirk was a branch manager at his local Wells Fargo, he would be coming home for dinner tonight. Instead he spent a decade spewing hate to the masses and ultimately it caught up to him, just as much as it would if you and I went in that biker bar every day talking crazy. Quit blaming us. Look in the mirror. Bruce Willis wasn't going to make it very long holding that sign either. 

Maybe I'm missing your point, or you mine.

What you say is clearly true - and has been throughout history.  Without the veneer of "societal norms" this is who we are as a species.

That said, our goal should be for insults to be met with insults.  Rhetoric with rhetoric.  I'm guilty of wishing bad things on bad people but to explain away political violence as he got what was coming to him doesn't address our greater need to be above that in order to continue functioning.

Violence begets violence.  Would it not have been a greater victory to beat him in a war of words?  Now he is lionized (even more).  I don't see a W here.

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51 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s hilarious because Charlie Kirk was literally at these campuses to indoctrinate students. 

and not just any campus

uvu was a ww2 vocational school

it was converted to byu's community college in the 80s

it only gained university status in 2008

byu and uu can't go full aggy on enrollment - both are landlocked

uvu is the overflow for the brethren kids that byu can't take in

it's now the largest school in utah

and it's 80% brethren

they are already indoctrinated

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1 hour ago, GreenspointTexas said:

If there is one thing the past 10 years have taught me, its that there clearly is no god

Spend more time looking at co-eds and you might change your mind again.  Works for me every time.

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20 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m seeing a lot of this kind of thing today reposted by old friends - good, kind people who are personally apolitical but products of their communities, which are entirely immersed in the MAGA-social media-megachurch complex. 
 

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Let’s keep it 100%. Archbishop Oscar Romero was martyred for the faith. Charlie Kirk was not. 

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Wow. The lionization of Charlie Kirk is well underway.  It's amazing how many are already pretending that he was just a good guy with a conservative message of hope and peace. It's like they think we don't know what he was selling out there. According to them 'he was just a good guy, spreading his message of hope and a better way to live! And he was killed for it.' Never mind that the message was one of hatred, overt racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, and political violence, and looking the other way from violence in general.

For example (nsiap) nitwit and certified crazy person, Danica Patrick:

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Freighting? Is that a result of all the heighting?

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Just now, wood said:

Wow. The lionization of Charlie Kirk is well underway.  It's amazing how many are already pretending that he was just a good guy with a conservative message of hope and peace. It's like they think we don't know what he was selling out there. According to them 'he was just a good guy, spreading his message of hope and a better way to live! And he was killed for it.' Never mind that the message was one of hatred, overt racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, and political violence, and looking the other way from violence in general.

at least he practiced what he preached, amirite?

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Just now, wood said:

Wow. The lionization of Charlie Kirk is well underway.  It's amazing how many are already pretending that he was just a good guy with a conservative message of hope and peace. It's like they think we don't know what he was selling out there. According to them 'he was just a good guy, spreading his message of hope and a better way to live! And he was killed for it.' Never mind that the message was one of hatred, overt racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, and political violence, and looking the other way from violence in general.

Well, duh.

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2 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Well, duh.

Yeah, I know ... it started the moment he was shot. Just wanted to vent a bit.

3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

at least he practiced what he preached, amirite?

Yep. By Charlie Kirk's math, his own assassination was 'worth it'.

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

If there is a moment of silence tomorrow at DKR-TMS, I’m going to have to reevaluate some things.

I’m pretty sure Kirk inspired the Professor Watchlist that is responsible for the rabid hysteria we’ve seen at aggy in recent days. This is only going to get worse.

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The authorities at *checks notes* the Ag site have pronounced the accused as not a Groyper, noting just how many citizens shared the accused's name and therefore he is a leftist. (my very shortened summation) There seems to be some disagreement regarding the online game and fascism interpretations. Kind of like how the very old (in modern news cycles) discussions about Antifa used to go. (Antifa is fascist! No, it means antifascist! No they just think they're antifascist, they are really fascist, for example)

Another one outlined a very elaborate explanation with the arrows that were scribed on the ammo; it took some time I'm sure:

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Someone point me to the surly right winger apology thread for jumping to conclusions and being general keyboard warriors pricksspacer.png

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9 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

well, yeah, it's the fucking alt-right. they're about as weird as it gets

Reading about groypers and Fuentes and listening to him speak and reading their communications - I don't understand any of it.  Makes me feel old and out of touch.  Helldivers meme?  WTF is that?  Makes me also think that humans haven't really adapted to the internet and social media yet.  This is a computer-influenced world and it's happened too fast for us.  What we are seeing all around us are the symptoms and consequences. Allow me to coin "techdolescence."  That's where we are.

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Yep. By Charlie Kirk's math, his own assassination was 'worth it'.

Best summation I’ve seen yet was the “I don’t support what happened to Charlie but Charlie supported what happened to Charlie”.

I listened to the Pod guys take on this at lunch, and I liked how they started off gently chastising leftists for their treatment of conservatives. “We’re gonna all have to talk to each other” etc, before launching into quotes from elected Republicans saying things like “This is war on the left”, “Civil war!” etc. All before knowing nothing at all about the shooter. Different sets of rules guys.
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2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Don't forget to make mental notes of which businesses' flags are half mast today

Surprisingly my son's school in Los Angeles (public school) had theirs at half mast.  They probably got a memo about withholding funding if they didn't.

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1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

If you haven’t slapped your beanbag to uwu girl Hannah why do some of you have even have an internet connection?

I'm not googling that.

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43 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

A leopard with slightly different spots is still a leopard, and they still have a hankering for eating faces.

Of course he was one of them. All that nonsense plus that frog meme has been a symbol for these morons for years. It's beyond a reasonable doubt at this point. 

Today should be the day all Democrat politicians and non right media are screaming for an end to republican hate rhetoric and condemning trump and all Republicans for this and virtually all political crime. Because it's almost always them that does it. The facts are there. The sound coming from democrats today after the way they were treated since Wednesday and all the violent rhetoric from republicans should be deafening. 

Yet. Not a peep. That's how you know it's over and the USA is a failed society with a destroyed culture and fascist government. Because the opposition party is complicit in rolling over to let it happen.

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3 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Reading about groypers and Fuentes and listening to him speak and reading their communications - I don't understand any of it.  Makes me feel old and out of touch.  Helldivers meme?  WTF is that?  Makes me also think that humans haven't really adapted to the internet and social media yet.  This is a computer-influenced world and it's happened too fast for us.  What we are seeing all around us are the symptoms and consequences. Allow me to coin "techdolescence."  That's where we are.


 

Sus post, bruh.

 

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25 minutes ago, pacman said:

Someone point me to the surly right winger apology thread for jumping to conclusions and being general keyboard warriors pricks

It's closed today. Moose out front shoulda told ya. 

Yeah I'm guessing Tyler Robinson just might not be the 'radical left lunatic' MAGA &  Trump wanted him to be.

Meanwhile, at the White House: 

Reporter: “My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk. How are you holding up?"

Trump: “I think very good. And by the way, you see all the trucks? They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House.” 
https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1966527816008155249

eta: I know. Already posted. My bad.

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2 hours ago, 'stache said:

legitimate. I was pretty skeptical that a 22 year old kid whose life was in the internet knew of an Italian antifascist song from 100 years ago or had that context in mind. I also haven’t seen that song as any part of more recent “anti fascist” or far left dialogue but I also don’t know much about those groups to the extent they exist somewhere online.

The young lefties all know Bella Ciao for some reason, especially DSA types. There’s a heavy Austin DSA overlap with Los Verdes and La Murga has a song set to the tune of Bella Ciao.

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10 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The authorities at *checks notes* the Ag site have pronounced the accused as not a Groyper, noting just how many citizens shared the accused's name and therefore he is a leftist. (my very shortened summation) There seems to be some disagreement regarding the online game and fascism interpretations. Kind of like how the very old (in modern news cycles) discussions about Antifa used to go. (Antifa is fascist! No, it means antifascist! No they just think they're antifascist, they are really fascist, for example)

Another one outlined a very elaborate explanation with the arrows that were scribed on the ammo; it took some time I'm sure:

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Is the fascination with seeing anything those inbred, mentally handicapped nuts have to say akin to the fascination with watching insane homeless people ramble to themselves on the street corner? I don't get why anyone with a modicum of sense and self awareness would pay any attention to those brainless twats.

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The narrative will be that it was a good kid from a good family that got radicalized and confused by the left wing media calling Trump and Kirk "Hitler" and "fascists"

Any references online or elsewhere to Trump as Hitler or use of the word fascist will be prosecuted, effective retroactively 

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1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

Is the fascination with seeing anything those inbred, mentally handicapped nuts have to say akin to the fascination with watching insane homeless people ramble to themselves on the street corner? I don't get why anyone with a modicum of sense and self awareness would pay any attention to those brainless twats.

because it's an actual echo chamber, despite the label being thrown around here. there is literally no push back on false narratives over there. none. they take everything at face value and contort themselves into pretzels when new information comes to light.

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1 minute ago, cmontexas said:

Any references online or elsewhere to Trump as Hitler or use of the word fascist will be prosecuted, effectively retroactively 

Guess they'll have to hang JD Vance, as he compared Trump to Hitler.  Of course, they also wanted to hang Mike Pence, so....sic semper Trump's VPs, I guess.

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5 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

And for those of us who care about the ever-growing list of parallels, Charlie Kirk is our version of Horst Wessel.  IYKYK

Good ‘ole Horst was a piece of shit thug who just happened to catch a bullet.  I wonder if the Nazi party assisted his family in making bank- or at least giving the wife a decent job for a few years before the Russian gang rapes?    

Kirk’s wife and kids will not starve.  And I have zero problems with his kids being taken care of.   And on a side note, this Brave New World of drone technology has really created an interesting new synergy of dog poop and cemetery gravesites for the foreseeable future.

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13 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Of course he was one of them. All that nonsense plus that frog meme has been a symbol for these morons for years. It's beyond a reasonable doubt at this point. 

Today should be the day all Democrat politicians and non right media are screaming for an end to republican hate rhetoric and condemning trump and all Republicans for this and virtually all political crime. Because it's almost always them that does it. The facts are there. The sound coming from democrats today after the way they were treated since Wednesday and all the violent rhetoric from republicans should be deafening. 

Yet. Not a peep. That's how you know it's over and the USA is a failed society with a destroyed culture and fascist government. Because the opposition party is complicit in rolling over to let it happen.

unlimited, consequence free insider trading is a helluva drug.

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2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

because it's an actual echo chamber, despite the label being thrown around here. there is literally no push back on false narratives over there. none. they take everything at face value and contort themselves into pretzels when new information comes to light.

So it's like watching monkeys in a zoo enclosure throwing shit at each other?

I get it for maybe 45 seconds. But doesn't that fascination wear off quickly when it's the same shit thrown over and over?

To each their own though, I'm just genuinely curious.  Not here to kink shame 

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Also, it seems that we're still not able to (and may never be able to) put the shooter in any specific ideological box.  Seems like the only thing that looks certain here is that he was was subjected to and joined in on some fucked up ideas from "online weirdo" world, which seems to be a theme of some frequency nowadays.

Bottom line: as a society, we've created an information infrastructure that spews online insanity at firehose pressure from countless different outlets.  And as a result, the number of people who fall prey to any of an infinite number of permutations of online batshittery has risen exponentially.  And the more vulnerable folks you inflame, the more that are likely to turn that inflammation into action.

TLDR; when our main focus as a society is setting as many fires as we can, we can't be surprised when some of those fires explode and cause material external harm.  Yet we live in a society where nothing is valued more than...being inflammatory and setting fires.  So, we're gonna get more of it.

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Radicalized in one semester by pinko librul professors at Utah aggy school. Incredible what people can convince themselves of.

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Just now, Hermanator said:

So it's like watching monkeys in a zoo enclosure throwing shit at each other?

I get it for maybe 45 seconds. But doesn't that fascination wear off quickly when it's the same shit thrown over and over?

To each their own though, I'm just genuinely curious.  Not here to kink shame 

not at all. it's a constant dopamine hit of "being correct" when in fact that's the furthest point from where they are. 



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