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2 hours ago, Hermanator said:

That's the other 30 percent. The hard-core base thats so racist they don't care if they lose their jobs or if trump is a pedophile. 

About 70 percent also want the deportations and hate the gays and trans, but they want the Epstein files and cheaper groceries more. 

 

2 hours ago, Hermanator said:

All of this was done after last year's election, and elections are the only way to see if they care or not. All we've had is a small off year election early this month and trump got destroyed in it everywhere from New Jersey to a couple of house seats in Mississippi. 

We won't know for sure whether they care or not until next November, provided trump is too incompetent to rig it. It's all reading the tea leaves until then, but if this last election is any indication that 70 percent number is probably close to reality. 

Man I just can't agree with those numbers. We'll need to wait for the midterms to see if there's any movement but I maintain that immigration and transpanic will be the overwheliming winner. I don't think Mamdani winning means much other than NYC is quite liberal and Cuomo is a huge piece of shit.

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The GOP could try to muck this up with a bunch of amendments in the Senate so that it has to go back to the House.

That keeps it in the news.

The other option is to just pass it as is and send to Trump for his signature. He can veto it.

That keeps it in the news.

Trump could also sign it, then use the "active investigation" line to withhold some of the information. 

That keeps it in the news.

7 minutes ago, tx ind said:

The big wild card is if the survivors go scorched earth and dish out names if Bondi and Patel do that.

I would expect the House Oversight Committee to continue the slow drip as well. 

The problem is that the Trump administration has acted like there is something they REALLY don't want to see the light of day in there and the implication is that it is very damaging to Trump. 

The correct course of action would have been to double down on the "nothing to see here" memo from Blondie, then throw her under the bus for lying with the "files are on my desk" line.

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It still amazes me that Dems didn't find a way to leak those emails back in October of last year. It would have shifted the whole fucking election and saved the country. 

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Clay Higgins didn't get the memo, he's probably looking around like 'wtf dudes'

1 minute ago, Dutchrudder said:

It still amazes me that Dems didn't find a way to leak those emails back in October of last year. It would have shifted the whole fucking election and saved the country. 

Yea Right GIF

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8 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

It still amazes me that Dems didn't find a way to leak those emails back in October of last year. It would have shifted the whole fucking election and saved the country. 

They didn't get them until recently.   House Oversight subpoenaed the Epstein estate for documents and whatnot back in August.  

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-oversight-subpoenas-jeffrey-epstein-estate/story?id=124963143

 

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House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer on Monday issued a new subpoena to the estate of Jeffrey Epstein for "documents and communications in its possession, custody, or control in unredacted form," which includes a copy of the alleged "birthday book" compiled for disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday.

"It is our understanding that the Estate of Jeffrey Epstein is in custody and control of documents that may further the Committee's investigation and legislative goals. Further, it is our understanding the Estate is ready and willing to provide these documents to the Committee pursuant to a subpoena," Comer said in a statement on Monday.

The committee requested a delivery of the documents -- which includes banking and financial records -- on or before Sept. 8, 2025. Comer said the panel is "reviewing" potential "mismanagement of the federal government's investigation of Mr. Jeffrey Epstein and Ms. Ghislaine Maxwell."

 

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17 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

Man I just can't agree with those numbers. We'll need to wait for the midterms to see if there's any movement but I maintain that immigration and transpanic will be the overwheliming winner. I don't think Mamdani winning means much other than NYC is quite liberal and Cuomo is a huge piece of shit.

I think immigration is going to be a negative for the GOP. Nobody except the true scumbags like what ICE is doing. Hell Charlotte is organizing pretty hard against Lil Bovino 

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5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

They didn't get them until recently.   House Oversight subpoenaed the Epstein estate for documents and whatnot back in August.  

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-oversight-subpoenas-jeffrey-epstein-estate/story?id=124963143

 

 

That's the House Committee, the US Justice Department likely had those during the Maxwell trial, which spanned the Biden administration. Garland and Friends should have tipped someone off around 2022 about this and started the process to get other reputable sources looking at the info.  I'm guessing, like most things that really matter, it never crossed Garland's mind. Plus he didn't want to harm his image of cosplaying as the arbiter of eternal fairness. At least he caught that dirty dirty Hunter Biden though! 

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6 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I think immigration is going to be a negative for the GOP. Nobody except the true scumbags like what ICE is doing. Hell Charlotte is organizing pretty hard against Lil Bovino 

Do not mistake the fact that the opposition is numerous as negating the other fact: the supporters of racist cruelty are more numerous.

This is a shitty evil country full of shitty evil people who fucking love being shitty and evil, and we are pot-committed on that point.  Sure, we have at times flirted with turning away from that....but it hurt too much, we couldn't take it, and had to return to the essence of our being: cruelty and hate.

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Remember when "I was for it before I was against it" ended a campaign? I guess "I was against it before I was for it" is different. Gop voters are literally the most gullible people on earth. Even back then all they needed was a stupid soundbite like "flip flopper" to win elections. Now a gop candidate can literally rape children and win over a brown woman who some people thought laughed a little oddly. 

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43 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

Man I just can't agree with those numbers. We'll need to wait for the midterms to see if there's any movement but I maintain that immigration and transpanic will be the overwheliming winner. I don't think Mamdani winning means much other than NYC is quite liberal and Cuomo is a huge piece of shit.

They lost a lot more than the NYC mayoral race.  The people spoke.  Not saying it will last or that it means anything for 2026 but this was a resounding fuck you to Trump in many places not nearly as liberal as NYC.  

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45 minutes ago, The Dog said:

The other option is to just pass it as is and send to Trump for his signature. He can veto it.

The House passed the vote with a veto proof majority. If Thune permits a vote in the Senate, it will be the same. Plus using the veto only to be overruled by both chambers seems really stupid 

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15 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

The House passed the vote with a veto proof majority. If Thune permits a vote in the Senate, it will be the same. Plus using the veto only to be overruled by both chambers seems really stupid 

It's all for show anyway.  Whatever comes out is going to be heavily redacted or the whole thing will just be completely withheld despite the bill.  We are at the Charlie Brown running toward the football stage once again. 

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20 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

It's all for show anyway.  Whatever comes out is going to be heavily redacted or the whole thing will just be completely withheld despite the bill.  We are at the Charlie Brown running toward the football stage once again. 

I got an early copy 

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