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On 9/18/2020 at 7:56 AM, atomheartbevo said:

L.E.E.?   Is the new mascot going to be the “insurgents”?

The citizen's committee recommendation was rejected from Legacy of Equality and Excellence (L.E.E.) to simply Legacy tonight. Henceforth, Midland Lee will (I guess) be called Midland Legacy.

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MIDLAND, Texas (KOSA) - UPDATE: Midland ISD’s school board has voted to rename Robert E. Lee High School to Legacy High School.

The motion passed with a 5-2 vote.

The school’s colors will remain maroon and white and the mascot will continue to be a rebel, though its depiction will change from the current mascot.

 

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On 7/19/2020 at 1:22 PM, HRSchenker said:

The only thing I don't like about the area is how those people drive. Left lane chilling, turn lane accelerating, and impatient in bad weather. Other than that I really enjoy the area. I have a cousin who is a state detective and he's always said his favorite place to live was Tyler.

Add to that probably the worst city planning and traffic management possible. They put almost all of their new development on a single road with few alternative routes and made it a divided road too narrow for most trucks to pull a U-turn in. Then they timed the stoplights so that you hit every single one of them even during periods of low traffic. Oh, and the left turn lanes were designed to barely accommodate the traffic they had before they developed that stretch of road, so the left lane piles up at certain intersections almost every cycle.

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1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Add to that probably the worst city planning and traffic management possible. They put almost all of their new development on a single road with few alternative routes and made it a divided road too narrow for most trucks to pull a U-turn in. Then they timed the stoplights so that you hit every single one of them even during periods of low traffic. Oh, and the left turn lanes were designed to barely accommodate the traffic they had before they developed that stretch of road, so the left lane piles up at certain intersections almost every cycle.

Yeah, the traffic planning is pretty bad.  But still, I can get from the south side of town to the downtown area in around 15 minutes at peak traffic.  There are plenty of side street routes to avoid Broadway, OJH, 323, and whatever other major road is sucking on a particular day.  95% of the drivers are utter morons though.   

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On 7/17/2020 at 10:17 AM, Brisketexan said:

How about the Tyler "Our Hot Chicks go on to be Apache Belles?"

FIFY-keeping it in the Rose City.

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15 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

How is it not Earl Campbell High School already?

Earl Campbell went to John Tyler, not Robert E. Lee. I believe they renamed JT to Tyler High School and I know they renamed REL to Tyler Legacy.

My mom graduated from REL when they were still the Rebels. I think they changed the mascot in the 80s if I’m not mistaken.

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On 5/15/2021 at 5:08 PM, pearlandhorn said:

Earl Campbell went to John Tyler, not Robert E. Lee. I believe they renamed JT to Tyler High School and I know they renamed REL to Tyler Legacy.

My mom graduated from REL when they were still the Rebels. I think they changed the mascot in the 80s if I’m not mistaken.

When they were doing the renaming, they specifically said that neither school would be named after public figures, even thought Tyler High School technically still is.  Legacy's mascot was changed to Red Raider years ago. 

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I’m so happy these rural school districts have so much extra cash laying around they can just change school names on a whim. Meanwhile in Eanes, we lose an elementary school so my kids lose some of their best friends to rezoning, the class sizes have increased, and one of them now gets to spend most of her day in portables in the parking lot. On the plus side, the ac in the main building is constantly shitting the bed, so at least one of them gets reliable ac in the portables! 
 

All in all, I’m much happier my tax dollars go to these backwoods mouth breathers that don’t realize they lost the war.

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28 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It's heritage not hate. A heritage of losing, surrender, and dishonor. 

it's aggy af

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3 minutes ago, Deej said:

*humblebrag*

also true.  didn't want to lose the thread of this topic, but complaints about the difficulties of facilities you have to deal with in Eanes is something you should keep to yourself.

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1 hour ago, SquishMitten said:

I’m so happy these rural school districts have so much extra cash laying around they can just change school names on a whim. Meanwhile in Eanes, we lose an elementary school so my kids lose some of their best friends to rezoning, the class sizes have increased, and one of them now gets to spend most of her day in portables in the parking lot. On the plus side, the ac in the main building is constantly shitting the bed, so at least one of them gets reliable ac in the portables! 
 

All in all, I’m much happier my tax dollars go to these backwoods mouth breathers that don’t realize they lost the war.

Ah, yes, the notoriously underfunded and underprivileged Eanes school district. Those poor children. How will they ever get by in life?

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26 minutes ago, royiv said:

Ah, yes, the notoriously underfunded and underprivileged Eanes school district. Those poor children. How will they ever get by in life?

To be fair, any school district with money (or in a property rich area) is getting screwed.  Even Eanes.  I suspect not everyone in Eanes is a CEO or cryptoking.

Mind you, I'm in AISD so not in Eanes.  We get our own special kind of screwing over.

Off topic... back to racists.

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3 hours ago, SquishMitten said:

I’m so happy these rural school districts have so much extra cash laying around they can just change school names on a whim. Meanwhile in Eanes, we lose an elementary school so my kids lose some of their best friends to rezoning, the class sizes have increased, and one of them now gets to spend most of her day in portables in the parking lot. On the plus side, the ac in the main building is constantly shitting the bed, so at least one of them gets reliable ac in the portables! 
 

All in all, I’m much happier my tax dollars go to these backwoods mouth breathers that don’t realize they lost the war.

We are talking Midland TX here

 

 

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Still disappointed they changed Fort Cavazos back to Fort Hood.

Richard Cavazos was a bonafide badass Texan, also the first Hispanic 4-Star General in the US Army whose exploits are so much bigger than just his rise in rank.

For all of the naming shenanigans, that was actually a HUGE improvement, which was subsequently & fucking stupidly changed back to Fort Hood.

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8 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Still disappointed they changed Fort Cavazos back to Fort Hood.

Richard Cavazos was a bonafide badass Texan, also the first Hispanic 4-Star General in the US Army whose exploits are so much bigger than just his rise in rank.

For all of the naming shenanigans, that was actually a HUGE improvement, which was subsequently & fucking stupidly changed back to Fort Hood.

Because....and this is really, really, really important....sending a message to minorities in this country that "no, you fuckers are second-class citizens...fuck, we don't think you're actually real citizens at all" is not just important, it's the cornerstone of our government now.

"Remember your place, boy" - a nice old phrase - is now our new practical motto.

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I wonder if they’re going to revert to Confederate Rebels or continue to be Colonial ones. Right now, they can pretend the name doesn’t include the “Robert E.” so it’s just any old generic Lee you can think of. If they go back to including all the Confederate shit, the mask will have been entirely removed.

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3 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

Such a weird hill to die on. 

16 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That’s the confederate way. Err heritage. 

Should name it after A.P. Hill, the Confederate general who was described as "always emotional ... so high strung before battle that he had an increasing tendency to become unwell when the fighting was about to commence" because it perfectly encapsulates who they are.  Plus, he had gonorrhea.

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As far as Midland goes, I always found it odd that a school located in a place that was not even remotely settled by Americans during the time of the Civil War would name a school after any U.S. figure of that time period.    A Comanche name would be much more appropriate. 

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Just now, Samson's Wig said:

As far as Midland goes, I always found it odd that a school located in a place that was not even remotely settled by Americans during the time of the Civil War would name a school after any U.S. figure of that time period.    A Comanche name would be much more appropriate. 

All through Texas you can pinpoint when schools named after Confederate leaders were opened and it’s almost always going to be in the 1950s-60s. 

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3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

All through Texas you can pinpoint when schools named after Confederate leaders were opened and it’s almost always going to be in the 1950s-60s. 

I'm aware that era produced a lot of nostalgia for folks of a certain ilk who looked back on the before times with fondness.  I just find it odd that, in an area that had fuck all to do with the civil war, people were stupid enough to roll with that kind of thinking.  I hope at least a handful of folks raised their hands and questioned it.  Not that it makes it a good idea, but a place that existed in the mid-1800s and sent some young men to fight in the war, at least has some historical basis for naming their schools that way.  Midland Lee is just fucking stupid on multiple levels. 

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Hell, St. John's in Houston - arguably the finest school in Texas - was founded in 1946 and they chose the name "Rebels" for the mascot along with Johnny Reb as the mascot. Wonder why the group of white men chose that name and iconography in 1946?

This was the yearbook cover in 1983.

(Reprint) 1983 Yearbook: St. John's School, Houston, Texas

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Good context from Chad Fuck

1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Asked a buddy from Midland about this.  He graduated from Lee in the late 80s, went to UT.  He said reality is that Midland was founded in 1885, had no slaves, and the inhabitants were mostly midwesterners from Kansas and Missouri.  R E Lee was built in 1962, and he believes the locals were highly motivated to name the school RE Lee specifically because of the desegregation battle going on at the time.  The other HS in town - the black HS - was named George Washington Carver.  Definitely a "separate but equal" vibe there.  For anyone in 2025 to claim it was about "heritage" and renaming is a "woke" act, ignores this history.   So racists gonna racist, just a couple generations down the line.

Lee HS was built in 1962 and almost certainly named as such as a "fuck you" to desegregation and integration, considering the "black" HS was named after George Washing Carver. Separate but equal and all that very fine stuff.

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5 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

I'm aware that era produced a lot of nostalgia for folks of a certain ilk who looked back on the before times with fondness.  I just find it odd that, in an area that had fuck all to do with the civil war, people were stupid enough to roll with that kind of thinking.  I hope at least a handful of folks raised their hands and questioned it.  Not that it makes it a good idea, but a place that existed in the mid-1800s and sent some young men to fight in the war, at least has some historical basis for naming their schools that way.  Midland Lee is just fucking stupid on multiple levels. 

That time period was when things were coming to a head on integration; courts were ordering districts to enforce the “equal” part of separate but equal; and the entire trend nationally was away from Jim Crow and segregation.  The naming was nothing to do heritage, it was an extremely savvy and pointed political message about who the schools were for and what the political class believed. You couldn’t name a school “we hate integration middle school” so you named it “Stonewall Jackson.” 

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17 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

All through Texas you can pinpoint when schools named after Confederate leaders were opened and it’s almost always going to be in the 1950s-60s. 

which is interesting because texas wasn't uniformly garbage back then.  if you look at the civil rights act votes, the senate voted in a hilarious fashion: exactly every single "confederate" senator voted no and exactly every single non-confederate voted yes, except Texas's own Ralph Yarborough.

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