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4 minutes ago, achooloco said:

Essentially a big nothing burger since he won't yet suffer any real consequences.

If you believe the polls, a certain slice of the electorate is feeling wistful about economic conditions before Covid and crediting those to Trump.  
 

Every day that Great Leader’s in court and on the raw end of embarrassing testimony is another step toward reminding them just how tiring it is to have the news cycle revolve around Trump.  That’s a real consequence and has far more civic value than a fine and a class E felony conviction.  

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5 minutes ago, achooloco said:

Essentially a big nothing burger since he won't yet suffer any real consequences.

I never realized in a criminal case the defendant has to be physically present all day every day. 6-8 hours a day 4 or 5 days a week over how many trials? Last week already had him nodding off multiple days. I expect it to take a tremendous toll on him physically, not to mention the mental stress of not being able to do as he pleases at all times. If he has to beg off from being present due to illness he is done imo

Cultists can forgive just about anything from their leader except physical weakness. Gods don’t wear down 

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4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Do not threaten this if you can’t guarantee it

In the Spring of 2020, I said Trump would get a serious case of Covid-19 in October on this very site (under a different handle).  He did but survived.

Like Capt. Tupolev.  The simulation will not make the same mistake twice. 

4 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

In person grifting interrupted by Mother Nature.

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"I'd keep rallying, your Excellency.  I don't think the heavy stuff's gonna come down for another couple of hours."

-You're right young fella.  Besides being sent by the Good Lord himself, he'd never interrupt the greatest rally of my life.  AHHHHHHHH!  Oh, Court Farts!"  

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12 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

I’m not as pessimistic as y'all but either way him having to sit there while 2 of his mistresses, Cohen and Hope Hicks talk shit about him will be glorious. 

I pray to God that Stormy, Hope and the other one testify that he has a 1.5" dick.

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2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Funny how people that see signs from god all over the place don’t see a rained out Trump event as one. 

I was hoping for a lightning bolt to wipe out the entire crowd. They were all there, in one place, just waiting to be spoken to by god himself.

Fucker.

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6 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I never realized in a criminal case the defendant has to be physically present all day every day. 6-8 hours a day 4 or 5 days a week over how many trials? Last week already had him nodding off multiple days. I expect it to take a tremendous toll on him physically, not to mention the mental stress of not being able to do as he pleases at all times. If he has to beg off from being present due to illness he is done imo

Cultists can forgive just about anything from their leader except physical weakness. Gods don’t wear down 

Yeah and even in a civil case, where it is not required, it is highly advisable to show the jury your level of commitment by attending. 

You cannot underestimate the stress of a trial, any trial, but especially a criminal trial. 

You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride is a serious truism. Even for a psycho like Trump. 

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7 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I was hoping for a lightning bolt to wipe out the entire crowd. They were all there, in one place, just waiting to be spoken to by god himself.

Fucker.

He’s been pretty hands off with direct interaction for a good while now. 

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One of the jurors gets their news from Truth Social. He ain’t getting convicted 

This.
All it takes is one Trump fanatic immune to evidence. And anyone who gets their news from Truth meets that description. Done deal.
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34 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

One of the jurors gets their news from Truth Social. He ain’t getting convicted 

I’m now convinced the strategy was never to get this case to stick, just have enough to get this far and trump intimidate a witness or temper with a witness or something like that and get busted for that rather than this case. Crazy he played right into their trap. 

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41 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

One of the jurors gets their news from Truth Social. He ain’t getting convicted 

You wonder if any of the right-leaning jurors in this trial and Trump's upcoming ones are keenly aware of the instant stardom and potential financial benefits they'd receive from right wing media for being "the hung juror".

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Trial news won’t be filtered through truth or newsmax for the juror, they will see what people are saying.  Makes it tougher to do the wrong thing, if the right thing is obvious and they have 11 people applying pressure.  
 

and of course we have to hope and believe that a juror that would not convict under any circumstances would be weeded out by the prosecution with one of their unlimited strikes. 

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6 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

You wonder if any of the right-leaning jurors in this trial and Trump's upcoming ones are keenly aware of the instant stardom and potential financial benefits they'd receive from right wing media for being "the hung juror".

That was going to be the name of my erotic John Grisham fan fic.

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

One of the jurors gets their news from Truth Social. He ain’t getting convicted 

Then again, this person is probably not a rational thinker and is gullible.  Remove them from their cult info source and they may be  easily swayed to believe anything those around them are thinking.  Sheep are going to sheep.

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29 minutes ago, immamac said:

I’m now convinced the strategy was never to get this case to stick, just have enough to get this far and trump intimidate a witness or temper with a witness or something like that and get busted for that rather than this case. Crazy he played right into their trap. 

Yep.  Run him ragged and force a cornered rat to get so paranoid he slips up and intimidates a juror directly, or indirectly through his acolytes.  

Jury duty lists are about as difficult to hack as a 'Hooked on Phonics' software game.  Once their names are posted on Truth Social by an outside party, it will look like Trump or one of his followers posted it and the jury is legally "tampered/compromised."  Even if he doesn't order it directly, it can easily be done by an outside party and pinned to him legally.  It completely fits with his behavioral pattern and ego.  Good news, that's a serious fucking crime no matter whether you're running for office or not.  Even GOP sympathizer judges in other cases don't like the idea of the people they sat into the jury box being fucked with.  They have some modicum of protective pride when they put the robe on in the morning.  Bad news is some of these jurors will spend the next decade looking over their shoulder and holding their breath as they start their cars.  All that to say, implicating Trump in a jury tampering is not that hard to do since people will either think "That figures, sounds like something that asshole would do" or "I'm not political, but this seems wrong..." to "Hell Yeah, Mr. President...drain the justice swamp...show those jurors who is boss!"  None of those scenarios bode well for him.  His ego will do the rest...

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He'd never lose an election.  He'd never leave office.  He'd never get indicted.  He'd never get busted for fraud.  He'd never go to trial.  They'd never be able to seat a jury.  

Now it's shifted to: well he'll never get convicted.  

Next it will be, well, he'll never get sentenced.  Then it will be he'll never have to report.  (Assuming he isn't dead, which I'd be fine with).  

I see an emerging pattern here.  

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Astute observation.  Conspiracy theories aside, I'm starting to wonder if they haven't gamed this out already.  What is the best way to defeat him or cause him to die that will cause the smallest outburst/backlash from his minions.  He can't do jail time because he can still correspond with the outside party through surrogates.  He can't be killed because it will be seen as a deep state operation or foreign invasion and cause panic.  He can be convicted of 1 or more charges and not do time but that risks him being re-elected.  He can be so overwhelmingly convicted that he loses legit, but that causes an uproar among his base that will make january 6th look like a picnic.  He can die of natural causes due to the stress, but 25mm Americans won't believe it and may lash out violently.  He'll never commit suicide.  You can't have him live in exile and fuck with our government by proxy from overseas.  

How do you stick this landing?  There has to be a way.  An accident on live television is about the only way to thread the needle.  It will implicate the Secret Service but it's the smallest fallout.  But we're open to other suggestions.  

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4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

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Shout out to Juror 4 and Alternate 2 for living my dream and successfully avoiding all news.

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6 minutes ago, Keef said:

Shout out to Juror 4 and Alternate 2 for living my dream and successfully avoiding all news.

“SurlyHorns.com” wasn’t an option 

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How does that person get on the jury? Might as well have someone on there who was inside the capitol on 1/6.

They get on the jury because the State had other jurors that they felt more strongly about using peremptory strikes on.
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1 hour ago, The Dog said:

I actually don’t think this is the case.

I do think that orange shit gibbon is so stupid that he doesn’t realize he is giving tons of ammunition to the prosecutors in his various cases, and the best way for him not to give more incriminating statements is to shut up.   He can’t, but that might be why they do not want more public statements. 

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13 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


and he smells

Look on the bright side - we can all fart in H-E-B and if anyone says anything just say “if Trump can drop ass in public then so can I!”

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On 4/20/2024 at 1:03 PM, 4th&Five said:

I’m not as pessimistic as y'all but either way him having to sit there while 2 of his mistresses, Cohen and Hope Hicks talk shit about him will be glorious. 

Another point of interest will be in how Melania reacts to all this being aired in public as factual testimony instead of being able to brush it off as gossip or hearsay.  Everything in this trial will be good fodder for her divorce case.  

 

Stupid question amnesty:   imagine this has been discussed ad nauseum, but how can someone convicted of a felony not be able to vote, but can still run for an elected position?   He can run for president, but isn't allowed to vote for himself?

 

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It was simply never codified in the Constitution or the resulting amendments.  They're have been plenty of examples of an elected official convicted of a felony while in office/after office and thus unable to vote again.  But the no Federal/US Code/Annotated Code or most Stete Codes ever bothered to take into account that person would even bother trying to run again for elected office.  It really just never came up.  So much of what protects Trump is codified articles and case law that simply never addressed what to do with a President/former President capable of such crimes against the Republic simply because they didn't think it would ever happen, so why bother.  

50 years from now, our children will look back at how we legislated, or lack thereof, A.I. law, or robotics law, or space law, or whatever the fuck.  We just don't know what can possibly happen so rather than write restrictive, short-sighted legal-ease..we frequently opt to write nothing at all and hope future case precedence (I know, a contradiction) sets the boundaries of the era that we will never know or see.  

You could build a time machine and go back to the framing.  And tell them that a future sitting President would place a telephone call to a Colonial Georgia senior official to extract from digital voting machines the exact number of votes needed to tilt the state to his favor.  And they'd hear the words "perfect phone call", "electronic ballots", and ponder the obvious fraud of the President staking that claim.  But they'd be so freaked the fuck out, they would't write a law about it, they'd just shoot you for being batshit insane and assume the EC would go according to plan.  

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5 hours ago, Keef said:

Shout out to Juror 4 and Alternate 2 for living my dream and successfully avoiding all news.

The Meidas people say juror 4 got thrown off the jury for lying about never being arrested.  He’s also tied to some kind of corruption case as well according to them.

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2 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

Another point of interest will be in how Melania reacts to all this being aired in public as factual testimony instead of being able to brush it off as gossip or hearsay.  Everything in this trial will be good fodder for her divorce case.  

Right. Like when a whole lot of folks on here were predicting she was going to divorce Trump as soon as he left office.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

What? You think THIS will be the final straw?

She knows damn well Trump cheats on her. She doesn’t care. The only thing that bothers her is that these trysts were made public. She responded by renegotiating her prenup. She’s a grifter and a gold digger. She’s not in it for love or honor or dignity or anything noble. She’s in it til the end. The only way she’d ever file for divorce is if Trump were left absolutely penniless with no properties or assets of any kind. She ain’t leaving him before the well has run dry. 

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17 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

The only way she’d ever file for divorce is if Trump were left absolutely penniless with no properties or assets of any kind. She ain’t leaving him before the well has run dry. 

Little late by then. Do it when he can pay the prenup- if you can make him. 

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15 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Astute observation.  Conspiracy theories aside, I'm starting to wonder if they haven't gamed this out already.  What is the best way to defeat him or cause him to die that will cause the smallest outburst/backlash from his minions.  He can't do jail time because he can still correspond with the outside party through surrogates.  He can't be killed because it will be seen as a deep state operation or foreign invasion and cause panic.  He can be convicted of 1 or more charges and not do time but that risks him being re-elected.  He can be so overwhelmingly convicted that he loses legit, but that causes an uproar among his base that will make january 6th look like a picnic.  He can die of natural causes due to the stress, but 25mm Americans won't believe it and may lash out violently.  He'll never commit suicide.  You can't have him live in exile and fuck with our government by proxy from overseas.  

How do you stick this landing?  There has to be a way.  An accident on live television is about the only way to thread the needle.  It will implicate the Secret Service but it's the smallest fallout.  But we're open to other suggestions.  

Call their bluff. 

 



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