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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

There’s plenty where the city girl either has to go to a small town to visit a client, or gets stuck in a small town due to weather or car trouble. In either case, she treats the locals like rubes but ends up falling for the inn keeper or mechanic after an initial period of getting on each others’ nerves. 
 

Shit, it’s October already isn’t it. Won’t be long now. 

Plus, the one where both are lured back to their home town by the elderly or otherwise busybody matchmaker relatives who just know they were meant for each other.

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Fellows was initially granted pretrial release, but was ordered back into custody in June after repeated violations, including missing a court-ordered mental health evaluation and allegedly calling a probation officer’s mother. The Justice Department also said when a clerk of the court attempted to contact Fellows about another violation – allegations that he was harassing a former girlfriend – it was discovered he had apparently put the number for the judge’s wife’s office instead of his own.

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Over the course of the nearly 2-hour hearing, Fellows rambled across a difficult-to-follow litany of complaints about his incarceration, stopping to touch on subjects as widely varied as the Taliban, Guantanamo Bay, a woman who’d left her child in a dumpster and a “constitutional lawyer” who had allegedly advised him to wrap his cell phone in tin foil to avoid capture.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/national/capitol-riots/capitol-rioter-brandon-fellows-admits-to-two-new-felonies-while-representing-himself-in-bond-hearing-judge-trevor-mcfadden/65-a40af9c2-9809-4adb-aaec-7e36ad12b308

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27 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Fellows was initially granted pretrial release, but was ordered back into custody in June after repeated violations, including missing a court-ordered mental health evaluation and allegedly calling a probation officer’s mother. The Justice Department also said when a clerk of the court attempted to contact Fellows about another violation – allegations that he was harassing a former girlfriend – it was discovered he had apparently put the number for the judge’s wife’s office instead of his own.

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Over the course of the nearly 2-hour hearing, Fellows rambled across a difficult-to-follow litany of complaints about his incarceration, stopping to touch on subjects as widely varied as the Taliban, Guantanamo Bay, a woman who’d left her child in a dumpster and a “constitutional lawyer” who had allegedly advised him to wrap his cell phone in tin foil to avoid capture.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/national/capitol-riots/capitol-rioter-brandon-fellows-admits-to-two-new-felonies-while-representing-himself-in-bond-hearing-judge-trevor-mcfadden/65-a40af9c2-9809-4adb-aaec-7e36ad12b308

He needs a psych eval before he is ever released back into the civilian population. Sad.

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1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

The Justice Department also said when a clerk of the court attempted to contact Fellows about another violation – allegations that he was harassing a former girlfriend – it was discovered he had apparently put the number for the judge’s wife’s office instead of his own.

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On 10/5/2021 at 4:35 PM, atomheartbevo said:

There's also the optics of the situation.  The executive branch wants to protect itself, but not make itself look crooked as hell (or make its obstruction the story), so you end up with concessions.

Good point.  In the usual case, the executive has at least some semi-straight-faced argument supporting the need for unfettered executive deliberation on important-ish policy questions, so they can pretend they're not hiding embarrassing evidence or that showing wrongdoing.

In this case, it's nothing more than "I was the king, you can't have my shit."  There is about zero policymaking implication to this material, so there's no legitimate need to hide it.

Which is why I think the sitting President's evaluation of the need for assertion of executive privilege should be dispositive and not second-guessed by the courts.  So, rather than being a political question in a dispute between the Congress and a sitting President, it is a political question between the former President and the current one, and Congress and the sitting President win.

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12 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

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Think about this tonight when you're trying to fall asleep.....

He blamed his arrest on the Taliban, compared his unconstitutional incarceration to Gitmo, and claimed D.C. courts have no jurisdiction on him because he lives in NY.

And Fellows is actually one of the more intelligent 600 Trump Warriors.

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2 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I’m sure that some portion of the January 6th terrorists have a mental illness but it really grinds my gears that that “excuse” only gets brought up when discussing white people of a certain age.

No one muses on the mental health of Muslim extremists or gang members or many other violent groups.

I also reflexively recoil when y’all say something like “If these people would just find a woman to fuck, they’d chill out”.

Yeah, vaginas are pretty awesome but it’s not their job to carry the emotional burden of “curing” a bunch of fucked up men.

It’s not on me to fuck the crazy out of some gross Oakley wearing fat bald tiny dicked dude.

that's a really good way to get this board's incels to stop dm'ing you. well done!
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1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

I also reflexively recoil when y’all say something like “If these people would just find a woman to fuck, they’d chill out”.

Yeah, vaginas are pretty awesome but it’s not their job to carry the emotional burden of “curing” a bunch of fucked up men.

It’s not on me to fuck the crazy out of some gross Oakley wearing fat bald tiny dicked dude.

I gotta say.....this was awesome to read.  And I say that as an open proponent of the "geez, if these dudes would just  get laid, it sure would take the edge off" hypothesis.

But definitely understand, I am not about putting that burden on women who won't have sex with these losers - I'm putting it on the losers who can't even muster up enough game to be sexable.  Incels get 100% of the blame, 0% falls on the women who say "nope, zero interest in that loser."

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I gotta say.....this was awesome to read.  And I say that as an open proponent of the "geez, if these dudes would just  get laid, it sure would take the edge off" hypothesis.

But definitely understand, I am not about putting that burden on women who won't have sex with these losers - I'm putting it on the losers who can't even muster up enough game to be sexable.  Incels get 100% of the blame, 0% falls on the women who say "nope, zero interest in that loser."

I'm gonna push a little blame on their parents/families/peers, but yeah, it's mostly on them

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2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I’m sure that some portion of the January 6th terrorists have a mental illness but it really grinds my gears that that “excuse” only gets brought up when discussing white people of a certain age.

No one muses on the mental health of Muslim extremists or gang members or many other violent groups.

Muslim extremists and gang leaders are typically not recruiting from the upper and middle classes - they are usually recruiting from people who have very little in life, and who have very little to lose, and they feed on that, whether it's with promises of X amount of virgins in the afterlife, or promises of nice cars, women, and houses or whatever.    Not to say that either of those groups draw people in from the upper and middle classes - they do, but it's not typical.

If we go and round up some violent gang of MS13 members or a group camping in the mountains of Afghanistan looking to take out a government (or foreign patrol), we aren't going to find a real estate agent, a mid-level management type, a lawyer, a cop, a government bureaucrat, a programmer, a restaurant owner or manager, a truck driver, etc.

The January 6th stuff on the other hand, for every poor Cletus just in from the sticks, there seems to be a real estate agent, a mid-level management type, a lawyer, a cop, a government bureaucrat, a programmer, a restaurant owner or manager, a truck driver, etc., and a lot of these people, after being identified and arrested, were followed up with statements from companies big and small stating that "such-and-such person is no longer employed with us and does not reflect our values".

There is a vast difference between getting some kid in a Middle Eastern country, who is looking at a life of barely being able to feed his family, who has little control over his life either because of religious leaders or an outside party (or even country), and some real estate agent who flew to a protest on a private jet.

The kid in the ME country is being promised X amount of virgins and riches in the afterlife.  Say what you want, but you can't deny that being promised riches and beautiful women is extremely appealing to somebody looking at a piss-poor life for the next 50-60 years.

But Becky the real estate agent who paid more to fly to fly to a protest in D.C. than the kid in the ME will make in 10 years, is being promised...what?  That Donald Trump will be reinstated?  That Hillary will be arrested?  That discussions of slavery will be banned from schools?

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

But Becky the real estate agent who paid more to fly to fly to a protest in D.C. than the kid in the ME will make in 10 years, is being promised...what?  That Donald Trump will be reinstated?  That Hillary will be arrested?  That discussions of slavery will be banned from schools?

Becky dreams of getting the one thing she can never buy: meaning.

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4 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I’m sure that some portion of the January 6th terrorists have a mental illness but it really grinds my gears that that “excuse” only gets brought up when discussing white people of a certain age.

No one muses on the mental health of Muslim extremists or gang members or many other violent groups.

I also reflexively recoil when y’all say something like “If these people would just find a woman to fuck, they’d chill out”.

Yeah, vaginas are pretty awesome but it’s not their job to carry the emotional burden of “curing” a bunch of fucked up men.

It’s not on me to fuck the crazy out of some gross Oakley wearing fat bald tiny dicked dude.

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On 10/14/2021 at 3:25 PM, Brisketexan said:

I gotta say.....this was awesome to read.  And I say that as an open proponent of the "geez, if these dudes would just  get laid, it sure would take the edge off" hypothesis.

But definitely understand, I am not about putting that burden on women who won't have sex with these losers - I'm putting it on the losers who can't even muster up enough game to be sexable.  Incels get 100% of the blame, 0% falls on the women who say "nope, zero interest in that loser."

I’ve long had a theory that the internet is responsible for their lack of action. These guys think they should be banging the 8-10’s they see in porn or on tv, but their real destiny is the 1-3’s that they won’t even consider.

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I’ve long had a theory that the internet is responsible for their lack of action. These guys think they should be banging the 8-10’s they see in porn or on tv, but their real destiny is the 1-3’s that they won’t even consider.

Good point. I definitely think that internet porn 1) gives a lot of losers an absurd idea of what their partner and sex should be like, and 2) when they can’t get that (because the super model is never going out with you, dude, quit holding out for her), they retreat further into their world of porn, frustration, and anger.

Shower. Dress better. Learn some basic social skills. And learn to be happy with a 4-5 who can be plenty cute with makeup and the right outfit. And who, by the way, may sex you up really well. But step 1 is “be a guy that a woman might want to be with” (to go back to Bama Chick’s point).
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4 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

I’ve long had a theory that the internet is responsible for their lack of action. These guys think they should be banging the 8-10’s they see in porn or on tv, but their real destiny is the 1-3’s that they won’t even consider.

The internet may be to blame for the first part, but a half-bottle of cheap whiskey would solve the second part.

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"Landon Mitchell bragged to a Facebook friend that he “breached the Capitol” and was “one of the very first in” when a pro-Trump mob stormed the halls of Congress. He appeared in video on the floor of the U.S. Senate, went through a senator’s desk and took to the dais, where he posed next to the so-called QAnon Shaman.

Later, when a friend feared that the FBI might arrest Mitchell, he wrote that he was “invincible” and “not too worried” because he “was masked up the whole time” he was inside the Capitol.

The FBI arrested Mitchell on Wednesday.

Mitchell was accompanied to the Capitol by Luke Wessley Bender, a former co-worker who was arrested by the FBI on July 29. Bender, the feds said, identified Mitchell during an interview after his arrest."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/landon-mitchell-capitol-riot-donald-trump_n_6170543ae4b066de4f5d49e7

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1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

"Landon Mitchell bragged to a Facebook friend that he “breached the Capitol” and was “one of the very first in” when a pro-Trump mob stormed the halls of Congress. He appeared in video on the floor of the U.S. Senate, went through a senator’s desk and took to the dais, where he posed next to the so-called QAnon Shaman.

Later, when a friend feared that the FBI might arrest Mitchell, he wrote that he was “invincible” and “not too worried” because he “was masked up the whole time” he was inside the Capitol.

The FBI arrested Mitchell on Wednesday.

Mitchell was accompanied to the Capitol by Luke Wessley Bender, a former co-worker who was arrested by the FBI on July 29. Bender, the feds said, identified Mitchell during an interview after his arrest."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/landon-mitchell-capitol-riot-donald-trump_n_6170543ae4b066de4f5d49e7

 

this stuff is just so stupid. there should be no reason to be shocked any more but my god every time i'm truly taken back by the stupidity.

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6 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

The FBI arrested Mitchell on Wednesday.

Mitchell was accompanied to the Capitol by Luke Wessley Bender, a former co-worker who was arrested by the FBI on July 29. Bender, the feds said, identified Mitchell during an interview after his arrest."

4 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

this stuff is just so stupid. there should be no reason to be shocked any more but my god every time i'm truly taken back by the stupidity.

For a group of people who make such a big issue out of being loyal to Trump, the Constitution, etc., they sure as shit aren't loyal to one another.

 

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Smocks “encouraged people who were actively fighting law enforcement, people who were actively engaged in trying to stop the transition of power,” Chutkan said. “Many of those people were violent, many of them defaced the halls of Congress. Mr. Smocks now seeks to somehow compare himself and drape himself in the mantle of civil rights. I, for one, find that offensive.”

The sentence tops the eight-month jail term handed to Paul Hodgkins, who breached the Senate chamber on Jan. 6 but was not accused of violence.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/21/texas-man-gets-14-months-for-jan-6-social-media-threats-to-lawmakers-516573

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23 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

i mean, the dude basically tells the world on a public forum "I am not going to get arrested because no one knows it was me that did the crime. me. the writer of this post is the crime guy. the crime guy that no one can recognize. i did the crime. but because i was so careful no one could ever possibly figure out that i am the crime guy. which i am."

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1 hour ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I know there are sentencing guidelines in Federal cases, but I'd feel much better if these fuckers could be held until at least February 2025. Don't give them a chance to fuck with the 24 election. 

Not only will they do so, they will be paraded out as heroic patriots ready to fight and die for Cheeto Benito, they will be armored up and will be the vanguard of the next deadly attack on our government.  And it will work.  Because we're such a lazy-ass country, we can't even come up with an original way to lose it all to authoritarian fascism -- we're just gonna follow the "Beer Hall Putsch and everything thereafter" script almost word-for-word.

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30 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Name fucking names! 

Is it time to start picking out some Exxon stations in D.C.?  If I were MTG, Boebert, Gosar, Mo Brooks or Madison Cawthorn, I'd probably be sweating a bit right about now.  

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