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What could possibly go wrong?
 
 

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/abbott-signs-law-permitting-use-of-fracking-wastewater/287-89df9861-29c7-4faa-b658-d651f94013ae

So basically the TCEQ will be responsible for monitoring that the fracking water meets certain safety standards, and we just have to trust that this process is sound and that no one will cut corners or turn a blind eye, because oil companies and our state government have a long history of caring about public health and putting the public’s best interests ahead of profits.

And HB 49 apparently protects the oil companies, landowners, and water treatment companies in the event the water causes harm.
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Don’t worry. Our almost 70 year old Agricultural Commissioner says it’s ok because of the AI. 
 

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Miller said technological advancements are bringing the state closer to being able to fully clean and reuse produced water. “I don’t know that we’re all the way there yet, but with the technology and AI and everything that we’ve got available to us now, we’re in the technology age, so it’s certainly doable and it’s, you know, probably doable pretty quick, I would think.”

 

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In the name of recycling/reusing, I’d love to be able to clean up dirty water and use it for other purposes. It’s valuable.  And I’m sure the technology is available, but like desalination is too expensive to be profitable. So my guess is they’ll be setting cleanliness standards that the o&g boys choose based on cost, and the water won’t be very clean. 

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46 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

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Post of the monh. Its just so fucking perfect.

Will we at least get labels on our produce  telling us what it was watered with?

Meh, back to my morning bowl of paint chips.

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Way back when, our CSA contract was with Carlos and Suzanne Santos, and their farm in Kyle. On one of my trips there, during the flow of a typical conversation, Suzanne told me I didn’t have to spend extra on organic milk, that HEB brand milk was equally organic, and that HEB had made the decision too not label their milk as organic. I had no reason to doubt her. You can’t make more money selling organic stuff if you are all in on selling as much stuff as possible, and selling HEB milk as organic at a lower price (to sell as much as possible) would kill that higher priced niche.

Suzanne later started and managed the Austin Farmer’s market.

All that to say, I have trusted HEB for forty years. But Republicans are so malevolently corrupt, they have given me reason to be start being suspicious of the food sold at HEB.

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What an absolute piece of shit little bitch of a man. Tim O'Hare, Tarrant County Judge

edit: it gets better. He's a Texas alum.

 

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39 minutes ago, speed817 said:

Should get all those guys that ICE is picking up to work on this wall.....

hell....make 'em pay for it while we're at it. 

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On 6/16/2025 at 10:00 PM, wild_turkey said:


https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/abbott-signs-law-permitting-use-of-fracking-wastewater/287-89df9861-29c7-4faa-b658-d651f94013ae

So basically the TCEQ will be responsible for monitoring that the fracking water meets certain safety standards, and we just have to trust that this process is sound and that no one will cut corners or turn a blind eye, because oil companies and our state government have a long history of caring about public health and putting the public’s best interests ahead of profits.

And HB 49 apparently protects the oil companies, landowners, and water treatment companies in the event the water causes harm.

I also bet that the Texas Lege will eventually pass a law to prevent any restaurant/grocery store in providing information whether any food product is tied to fracking wastewater. This could be Dan Goeb's senate bill 1 in the next go-round.

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7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I also bet that the Texas Lege will eventually pass a law to prevent any restaurant/grocery store in providing information whether any food product is tied to fracking wastewater. This could be Dan Goeb's senate bill 1 in the next go-round.

Thanks for putting that out there in the universe, you twisted asshole. 

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On 6/16/2025 at 10:26 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

In the name of recycling/reusing, I’d love to be able to clean up dirty water and use it for other purposes. It’s valuable.  And I’m sure the technology is available, but like desalination is too expensive to be profitable. So my guess is they’ll be setting cleanliness standards that the o&g boys choose based on cost, and the water won’t be very clean. 

It’s actually not available. Even when the expense was put forth. I was significantly involved in litigation between Antero and a French company called Veolia that spent a quarter billion building a “state of the art” facility in West Virginia called Clearwater to try and clean up all the saltwater typically disposed in disposal wells in Marcellus. The idea was to stop injecting and instead create river quality water. They spent a ton of money and then spent a ton more money…and then a ton more trying to make it work. It ultimately led to them just having to buy up the global supply of fly ash because the shit didn’t work. And even then they had to transport all the radioactive shit coming off the water (to Texas by the way). 

they put the money in, hired the global leading firm to build it for them, and it did not even come close to working. 

we are still not able to technologically achieve the processing of SWD water into river quality water. This bill is utterly fucking insane and will absolute make some lawyers rich after some people die. 

edit: if you want to read about it, long story here (as someone more than intimately familiar with the facts and issues of the case, I’d say this article gets it about 95% right which isn’t bad for these type of advocacy websites):

https://www.desmog.com/2023/09/19/radioactive-fracking-waste-west-virginia-veolia-antero-clearwater/

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8 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

I'm just glad i have no idea what a shaboozey is.

 

You do, but I'm not going to put that awful ear worm in anyone's head. 

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15 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

I'm just glad i have no idea what a shaboozey is.

 

Are you at the bar getting tipsy?

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1 minute ago, MissingInAction said:

I wish. Cant be in public until my wbc is normal next week.

There’s a party downtown near 5th Street.

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Sorry if I'm slow with my thoughts, but I'm going to assume that a law allowing wastewater to be reused is not really about finding a reuse of the water or frankly even disposing of it. If O&G can "safely" reuse wastewater for agriculture, then why not allow them more access to more groundwater. They'll return x% of it back to the river or agriculture canals at a later date. Let's face it, O&G wants 100% of Texas water so they need to identify how to sell that argument. 

In a way, it reminds me how the chemical industry came up with the idea of plastic recycling. Not because they wanted to reduce landfill waste or that they wanted to buy recycled plastic. They wanted to shift the blame of plastic waste in our environment away from them. Chemical companies aren't the bad guy, it's your neighbor who refuses to separate their trash. This gives the chemical companies more of a market because the consumer doesn't feel bad about choosing plastic.

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Still waiting for action on SB3. My prediction is that he doesn’t sign it, allows it to pass into law, and then calls a special session to “fix it” before it takes effect

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4 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Still waiting for action on SB3. My prediction is that he doesn’t sign it, allows it to pass into law, and then calls a special session to “fix it” before it takes effect

I bet he doesn't sign it in the next hour and then just washes his hands of it and say its Dan's fault if needed.

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What am I gonna do with this stock pile of gummies now?

Wait, you're not completely out by now? Color me impressed. I'll never underestimate you again.
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So…yesterday wake-up to see we may be at war with Iran (currently in the UK).  Today wake-up up to Abbott being sensible to kill SB3.  Welcome back to 2025.  
 

Gov statement, special session to apply common reasonable regulation (absolutely want child resistant packaging because even if we keep ours in a lockbox, many don’t)


https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/press/VETO_proclamation_SB_3_IMAGE_2025-06-22.pdf

Assume Abbott did this for his own political play as a Pub prez candidate, to extract money from the industry, or just put Patrick in his place as a preemptive maneuver.  Regardless of reasons:

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Pretty interested to find out what the real reasons are that Abbott vetoed SB3 because the stated legality issues/because it was the right thing to do just don’t seem like something he would go to absolute war with Lt Dan over… gotta be more to the story

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“Texas must enact a regulatory framework that protects public safety, aligns with federal law, has a fully funded enforcement structure and can take effect without delay,” Abbott said.

In a statement explaining his veto, Abbott argued that SB 3 would not have survived “valid constitutional challenges,” and that the bill’s total ban “puts federal and state law on a collision course,” noting that the 2018 federal Farm Bill legalized hemp products.

“Allowing Senate Bill 3 to become law — knowing that it faces a lengthy battle that will render it dead on arrival in court — would hinder rather than help us solve the public safety issues this bill seeks to contain,” Abbott said. “The current market is dangerously under-regulated, and children are paying the price. If Senate Bill 3 is swiftly enjoined by a court, our children will be no safer than if no law was passed, and the problems will only grow."

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/state/texas-thc-ban-delta-8-9-vetoed-greg-abbott-special-session/287-cca31320-9394-470e-8e69-04477de760e6

 

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1 hour ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Pretty interested to find out what the real reasons are that Abbott vetoed SB3 because the stated legality issues/because it was the right thing to do just don’t seem like something he would go to absolute war with Lt Dan over… gotta be more to the story

Real reason is even he thinks Dan Patrick is a clown

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1 hour ago, Homercles said:

Assume Abbott did this for his own political play as a Pub prez candidate

For the first time, we benefit from his delusional angling for a presidential run. 

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19 minutes ago, tx ind said:

Real reason is even he thinks Dan Patrick is a clown

If this is true I may have to actually apologize for a small portion of the mean things I have said about Abbott...

small portion...
 

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34 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

“Texas must enact a regulatory framework that protects public safety, aligns with federal law, has a fully funded enforcement structure and can take effect without delay,” Abbott said.

In a statement explaining his veto, Abbott argued that SB 3 would not have survived “valid constitutional challenges,” and that the bill’s total ban “puts federal and state law on a collision course,” noting that the 2018 federal Farm Bill legalized hemp products.

“Allowing Senate Bill 3 to become law — knowing that it faces a lengthy battle that will render it dead on arrival in court — would hinder rather than help us solve the public safety issues this bill seeks to contain,” Abbott said. “The current market is dangerously under-regulated, and children are paying the price. If Senate Bill 3 is swiftly enjoined by a court, our children will be no safer than if no law was passed, and the problems will only grow."

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/state/texas-thc-ban-delta-8-9-vetoed-greg-abbott-special-session/287-cca31320-9394-470e-8e69-04477de760e6

 

You could make most of those same arguments against the 10 commandments law but here we are….

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