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Posted
2 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Now I'm confused. I thought there was an announcement last week that some bank was putting up the bond for him. Did that fall through?

Different case different amount   $98m vs $560m or so

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Posted
Just now, locodos said:

Different case different amount   $98m vs $560m or so

Ahh yes.  It's hard to keep all of Dotard's cases straight.

But in the end, none of it matters.  He is our future king, and you best get right with the lord (because that's who anoints kings).

Posted
25 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

GOP can post bonds, hell they will probably even just pay the fines. All in the name of keeping the messiah on track to ascendance.

It’s a small price to pay really.

the GOP doesn't have the money

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Posted
1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Ahh yes.  It's hard to keep all of Dotard's cases straight.

But in the end, none of it matters.  He is our future king, and you best get right with the lord (because that's who anoints kings).

wait wut?  I thought the naming rights for the ceremony would be sold off.   President Trump brought to you by Carl's Jr!

I bet they smear old frialator grease across his chest instead of Whale Oil

Posted
1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

the GOP doesn't have the money

I read somewhere earlier (and can't find it now) that Trump was scaling back on rallies as a cost-cutting issue.  Apparently, the grift has gotten a bit lean.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, dcbc said:

I read somewhere earlier (and can't find it now) that Trump was scaling back on rallies as a cost-cutting issue.  Apparently, the grift has gotten a bit lean.

I posted that.  They are cutting back his rallies to basically just campaign out of Florida because he broke broke.  He's begging the 7 figure donors to up their checks to 8 figures now.  @atomheartbevo keeps mentioning too that the venues he books are smaller than his 2016/2020 venues and less attended.

Biden had a $53m fundraising month and has $155 million COH.  Oh and he raised 20% of his February total just after the State of the Union ($10m in the 24 hours after that), so March will likely be an even bigger amount.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

the GOP doesn't have the money

The Russians do.

The Saudis do.

Elon Musk does.

Imagine that you were any of those shitheads, and you were told that for the low price of less than half a billion dollars (fucking POCKET CHANGE for those players), you could own -- and I'm talking free-and-clear, with title in your name -- a man who has a 50% chance of being president of the US.  You'd be stupid NOT to make that bet.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

The Russians do.

The Saudis do.

Elon Musk does.

Imagine that you were any of those shitheads, and you were told that for the low price of less than half a billion dollars (fucking POCKET CHANGE for those players), you could own -- and I'm talking free-and-clear, with title in your name -- a man who has a 50% chance of being president of the US.  You'd be stupid NOT to make that bet.

 

Congress critters are cheaper and more bang for the buck.  Trump is like having a hotel on Baltic Ave.  A shady senator is like having 3 houses on the orange properties that everyone seems to land on.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, dcbc said:

I read somewhere earlier (and can't find it now) that Trump was scaling back on rallies as a cost-cutting issue.  Apparently, the grift has gotten a bit lean.

It's not that the grift has gotten lean, it's more that his legal bills have gotten fat(ter). 

Posted
2 minutes ago, dcbc said:

 

Congress critters are cheaper and more bang for the buck.  Trump is like having a hotel on Baltic Ave.  A shady senator is like having 3 houses on the orange properties that everyone seems to land on.

But when you've got "fuck you" money.....buy em all.  And seriously, the POTUS, Commander in chief of the US armed forces, is a fucking BARGAIN at $500 million.

When it comes to selling the ownership of the presidency,

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

But when you've got "fuck you" money.....buy em all.  And seriously, the POTUS, Commander in chief of the US armed forces, is a fucking BARGAIN at $500 million.

When it comes to selling the ownership of the presidency,

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I guess we'll see.  I'm not one to argue that Elmo makes wise decisions with his money.  As for the Saudis, he already owes them $540M (which they may have under their couch cushions).  I just wonder when they decide to cut bait on Trump.  Russia might decide it's easier to fuck with the election on the cyberfront than to contribute to Trump's gofundme.  

 

I'm just a spectator.  And I will never play monopoly with the Saudi government, the Rooskies, or Elmo.

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Posted (edited)

If your plan is to steal the election or violently take the presidency, why spend money on  campaigning?  That’s less money for Trump and he doesn’t work like that. If the actual election results are inconsequential to him, he won’t put effort into them.  He is like Smaug in that way. He will burn and destroy everything to make his pile larger. 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

It's not that the grift has gotten lean, it's more that his legal bills have gotten fat(ter). 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

I’m curious how much of this is trump is broke v he doesn’t want to put up his money / follow the rules ?

Neither, really.  He's supposed to worth somewhere between 2 and 3 billion, but he doesn't have anywhere near half a billion liquid to pay the judgment, and the folks who loan that kind of money for this kind of thing don't want his illiquid assets as collateral.

I think he'd have written the check the day after the judgment if it would've cleared.   This has to be excruciating for that narcissistic doucherocket.  Maybe he'll have an aneurysm over it??

Posted
The Russians do.
The Saudis do.
Elon Musk does.
Imagine that you were any of those shitheads, and you were told that for the low price of less than half a billion dollars (fucking POCKET CHANGE for those players), you could own -- and I'm talking free-and-clear, with title in your name -- a man who has a 50% chance of being president of the US.  You'd be stupid NOT to make that bet.

They’re smart enough to know he’ll welch and fuck them too when it come time to pay up.
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Posted
the GOP doesn't have the money

Yes but they’ll have to grift. Which will divert funds from the election and the flow might eventually slow or dry up. Which is the best thing that could happen.

I 100% hope he raids the GQP coffers. Then loses to Biden by 6m votes again. Not that I love Biden at all, but this seems like the best way to maybe finally put a sock in this assholes mouth. But, hell, who am I kidding. Nothing will shut this fuckstain up until he croaks.
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Posted
1 hour ago, TexEx15 said:

 

Yeah yeah, we get it. When it’s time to pay, he’s poor. When it’s time to borrow. That’s what this case was about. He’s still playing the same game. 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, dcbc said:

I read somewhere earlier (and can't find it now) that Trump was scaling back on rallies as a cost-cutting issue.  Apparently, the grift has gotten a bit lean.

There’s only so many tires on the mobile home you can hock for a price. 

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Posted

Lots and lots and lots of people entangled in the legal system don’t have the money to do the next thing, and have to deal with where they stop.  Most of the people.  That the penalties have risen to such a point for him is more about him, and he shouldn’t be given any treatment that a poor person that couldn’t come up with $5000 wouldn’t get.  He will already get more than that person, as some/many of his assets will be protected behind LLCs and shell corps plus any homestead rights he gets.  Whereas they’ll take every dime the poor guy has until that $5000 is paid. 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, tbone_ said:


They’re smart enough to know he’ll welch and fuck them too when it come time to pay up.

exactly. 

In Trump's mind they gave him the money because they love him and he's so great. He'll feel no obligation to give anything in return - because he never does.

Posted
17 minutes ago, tbone_ said:


They’re smart enough to know he’ll welch and fuck them too when it come time to pay up.

1) do they place any real value on a couple billion dollars?

2) would they need something explicit from him, or just know that his general direction would be beneficial to them more often than not?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Lots and lots and lots of people entangled in the legal system don’t have the money to do the next thing, and have to deal with where they stop.  Most of the people.  That the penalties have risen to such a point for him is more about him, and he shouldn’t be given any treatment that a poor person that couldn’t come up with $5000 wouldn’t get.  He will already get more than that person, as some/many of his assets will be protected behind LLCs and shell corps plus any homestead rights he gets.  Whereas they’ll take every dime the poor guy has until that $5000 is paid. 

This.  Shit, think of how Trump deals with vendors, CONSISTENTLY.  As in, "this is the rule of how he operates" - 1) get a vendor to provide some service/goods, costing a chunk of money, 2) knowing that the vendor will be cash-strapped if they don't get PAID, and soon, what he promised....he uses the vendor's need for cash to fuck over the vendor, and 3) pay cents on the dollar - the vendor gets paid just enough to (hopefully) avoid bankruptcy, and Trump successfully rips him off by using his leverage to break the terms of the deal.

Fuck him, it's his day in that barrel.  No lube for you, Dotard.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He’s going to make his lawyer fake a seizure and request a stay for convalescence?

"Donald, your attorney is not well."

"Fuck him (or her)!"

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Posted
48 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

So many Trumpkins think he is this financial wizard who can lead the US economy to the promised land.  This should be a good place to start an ad campaign against that notion.  Carry it through to the fact that they have taken over the GOP to use all their donations to save his broken ass.  

Posted
1 minute ago, pyrohornIII said:

So many Trumpkins think he is this financial wizard who can lead the US economy to the promised land.  This should be a good place to start an ad campaign against that notion.  Carry it through to the fact that they have taken over the GOP to use all their donations to save his broken ass.  


credit, more credit, more credit then file bankruptcy !

that has always been his business model

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

But when you've got "fuck you" money.....buy em all.  And seriously, the POTUS, Commander in chief of the US armed forces, is a fucking BARGAIN at $500 million.

When it comes to selling the ownership of the presidency,

jeBvZS.gif

Yeah and they throw in a Mike Flynn for free!  

Posted
2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If your plan is to steal the election or violently take the presidency, why spend money on  campaigning?  That’s less money for Trump and he doesn’t work like that. If the actual election results are inconsequential to him, he won’t put effort into them.  He is like Smaug in that way. 

I think in 2016, he had no interest in winning, thinking the grift was in the campaign.  Then, he won and found out that he could just ignore the rules and be on the take while in office.  So I think he was out to win in 2020 so he could continue the campaign take and the sitting-President take.  This time around, he's got to win to see if he can contort the law into some KingsX immunity argument.  So sitting at home and collecting checks from rubes isn't as desirable.  

Posted
1 hour ago, Js1 said:

I posted that.  They are cutting back his rallies to basically just campaign out of Florida because he broke broke.  He's begging the 7 figure donors to up their checks to 8 figures now.  @atomheartbevo keeps mentioning too that the venues he books are smaller than his 2016/2020 venues and less attended.

Biden had a $53m fundraising month and has $155 million COH.  Oh and he raised 20% of his February total just after the State of the Union ($10m in the 24 hours after that), so March will likely be an even bigger amount.

This is awesome.  I want it to keep getting smaller and smaller - but don't let him stop.  It will be like when OU had a hoops game at their 2000 seat fieldhouse this year.  SOLDOUT!  'See, we can support basketball around here!'

Posted
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

But when you've got "fuck you" money.....buy em all.  And seriously, the POTUS, Commander in chief of the US armed forces, is a fucking BARGAIN at $500 million.

When it comes to selling the ownership of the presidency,

jeBvZS.gif

To put it in perspective, the Saudis are paying a washed up Ronaldo 315M a season to play.  Trump for 4 years is 125M per.  Yeah, that's basically free.  And the guy may not have a great shot, but he definitely has a chance.  Sounds kind of worth it.  

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Posted
7 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

To put it in perspective, the Saudis are paying a washed up Ronaldo 315M a season to play.  Trump for 4 years is 125M per.  Yeah, that's basically free.  And the guy may not have a great shot, but he definitely has a chance.  Sounds kind of worth it.  

Counterpoint: Ronaldo has talent and can actually hold up his end of a deal.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

How so?  Trying to collect on a court-ordered bond is "fucking with" the defendant?  What's the point of the bond?

I may not be understanding you.

I am referring to attempting to execute the judgment pending appeal if Trump doesn't secure a bond.

Many or most plaintiffs won't do it unless they're holding a bloody stump and really need the money, or just to fuck with the defendant.

This situation is to be differentiated from that in which either a) there is no appeal or b) the appeal is concluded with the judgment still at least partially affirmed.  In that case, the plaintiff is free to execute regardless of motive.  Also to be differentiated from the situation in which a bond is posted and the appeal concludes affirming all or part of the judgment in favor of plaintiff, in which case the court releases the proper amount of the bond to the plaintiff.

It's just that interregnum where the judgment could get reverse partially or entirely that poses a risk for plaintiffs.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Would they have to argue that he’s too poor to meet the financial penalty?

The only place that works is in a petition for bankruptcy. 

In most cases, the judgment creditor plaintiff is entitled to pursue whatever post-judgment remedies the law provides to collect whatever percentage of the judgment it can.  That would include verifying that the judgment creditor/defendant is too poor to pay.

For example, In a shitass consumer loan or credit card debt suit, where it is highly likely the defendant doesn't have a pot to piss in, the creditor may seek a "writ of execution" in which the sheriff or constable goes to the defendant's home, gains lawful entry, and surveys the property to see if the defendant has any obviously non-exempt property (up to 60k personal in Texas and the homestead).  Usually that writ comes back, sorry ain't got shit.  But the plaintiff can keep after them if they want.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Counterpoint: Ronaldo has talent and can actually hold up his end of a deal.

Nothing against Ronaldo, he’s just clearly past his prime.  Just saying they have plenty of money to pay for a semiretired futbol player.  President of the US of A for much cheaper seems asinine…

Posted

Anyone who doesn't think the Saudis and/or the Russians would gladly invest well into the billions on a 1% bet that Trump wins is a fool. The damage they know he'd do to America would be well worth it to them, regardless of whether he follows through on any specific promises. The problem as they see it would be that it will be hard to keep it secret and could backfire on them, not that it's a poor investment. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Anyone who doesn't think the Saudis and/or the Russians would gladly invest well into the billions on a 1% bet that Trump wins is a fool. The damage they know he'd do to America would be well worth it to them, regardless of whether he follows through on any specific promises. The problem as they see it would be that it will be hard to keep it secret and could backfire on them, not that it's a poor investment. 

IDK that anyone is betting 500M on a 1% chance of anything even countries. 

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Posted
Just now, immamac said:

IDK that anyone is betting 500M on a 1% chance of anything even countries. 

They already gave Kush $2 billion. You think they'd give a shit about another $500 mil to Trump? The Saudi sovereign wealth fund has nearly $1 trillion in assets.

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Posted
1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

They already gave Kush $2 billion. You think they'd give a shit about another $500 mil to Trump? The Saudi sovereign wealth fund has nearly $1 trillion in assets.

Kushner is doing shit with that 2B not just donking it the fuck off. 

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