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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

can the white house make that kind of offer to all federal employees ?

where's the budgeted money for this ? 

I cannot say enough that if you want to know WTF is going on, especially on the “mechanics of government” shit, just blow past the news and go read the Executive Order itself and even more importantly, the OPM and OMB guidance on implementation.

The media will run with what the White House or Elon says, the details will be very different. Remember that this is a group that claimed they “had the military turn on the faucet to send water from the PNW to California.” 

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4 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

According to the AI overlord that now answers google questions, there are 87 swing congressional districts in the USA.

shouldn't there be 435 of them?

 

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2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

if milry was smart, he'd leave the country. trump wants him to rot in a cell 

Sounds like something a "wannabee director" and someone who is "fascist to the core" would do.

Why is he mad at Milley and wants him in jail again?

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13 minutes ago, yoladu said:

shouldn't there be 435 of them?

 

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“As of 2022, there are 222 districts in the House that are more Republican than the national average and 206 districts more Democratic than the national average. The number of swing seats, defined as those between D+5 and R+5, is 87.”

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More on the utter shit show that is OPM (which is now the nerve center for Elon’s team).

https://www.pogo.org/investigations/raging-misogynist-now-federal-government-h-r-s-top-lawyer
 

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Andrew Kloster, a self-described “raging misogynist” with a public history of racist comments and insistence on loyalty to President Donald Trump, has been installed as general counsel for the federal government’s human resources agency, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM). 

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Kloster, who is now responsible for advising the government’s H.R. department, has a long history of racist and sexist online comments and social media posts. In a response to a post on The Volokh Conspiracy legal blog, as reported by The Daily Beast, Kloster wrote, “Consent is probably modern society’s most pernicious fetish.” He also has written online that “Slaves owe us reparations.” In 2023, roughly six months after being served a temporary restraining order, he tweeted, “I need a woman who looks like she got punched.” POGO’s queries sent to OPM and Kloster sought comment on these and other statements; neither addressed these questions

 

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nsiap ...Trae Crowder doin' his thang. Part 1 of 3. Follow the link for the other two.

 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

If you are misspelling, Choklahoma is preferred

I've always been partial to 'Mobilehoma'.

Posted
8 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

Pete’s first order of business. 

 

JFC. Milley should get an extra star, not lose one. 

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6 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

There will come a day that if this goes on long enough that states like California, and even Texas for that matter, will want to stop propping up the citizens in 3rd world states (Even if Texas does align with them on ideology you still reach a point where cutting them off sounds great). 

Realignment talk still not going away ...

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Federal Employees given option to resign with up to 8 months pay. So many questions.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvqe3le3z4o

President Donald Trump has offered buyout packages to almost all federal employees, a major move designed to shrink and reform the US government.

In an email sent on Tuesday, his administration told workers they had to decide by 6 February whether they wanted to be part of a "deferred resignation" programme.

If they agree by then to quit in September, the message said, they would receive about eight months of salary as a severance package.

The Trump administration expects up to 10% of employees to accept the offer - which equates to about 200,000 of the more than two million people who work for the federal government, according to the BBC's US partner CBS News.

Senior Trump officials told US media that the buyouts could save the government up to $100bn (£80bn).

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28 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Federal Employees given option to resign with up to 8 months pay. So many questions.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvqe3le3z4o

President Donald Trump has offered buyout packages to almost all federal employees, a major move designed to shrink and reform the US government.

In an email sent on Tuesday, his administration told workers they had to decide by 6 February whether they wanted to be part of a "deferred resignation" programme.

If they agree by then to quit in September, the message said, they would receive about eight months of salary as a severance package.

The Trump administration expects up to 10% of employees to accept the offer - which equates to about 200,000 of the more than two million people who work for the federal government, according to the BBC's US partner CBS News.

Senior Trump officials told US media that the buyouts could save the government up to $100bn (£80bn).

His unemployment numbers are gonna go to shit.

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

His unemployment numbers are gonna go to shit.

This isn’t a buyout. You can check the other thread for more, but employees that accept remain on payroll, get paid on a regular basis, and either keep teleworking or move to admin leave.  It’s not even clear if all agencies will let employees accept, which jobs are exempt, and if employees can even take other jobs before 30 September.  And if you are moved to admin leave you likely take a pay cut in the form of no agency matching to the  government version of a 401k. 

 I’d expect a pretty low uptake nearly only from people planning to leave anyway or retire.  It’s not even as good as voluntary early retirement. 

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Federal Employees given option to resign with up to 8 months pay. So many questions.....
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvqe3le3z4o
President Donald Trump has offered buyout packages to almost all federal employees, a major move designed to shrink and reform the US government.
In an email sent on Tuesday, his administration told workers they had to decide by 6 February whether they wanted to be part of a "deferred resignation" programme.
If they agree by then to quit in September, the message said, they would receive about eight months of salary as a severance package.
The Trump administration expects up to 10% of employees to accept the offer - which equates to about 200,000 of the more than two million people who work for the federal government, according to the BBC's US partner CBS News.
Senior Trump officials told US media that the buyouts could save the government up to $100bn (£80bn).

He can’t do that. Congress controls the purse (in theory). Any buyouts have to come from them (in theory). Trump will not pay anyone that quits (not theory).
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10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

if milry was smart, he'd leave the country. trump wants him to rot in a cell 

Did he get a pardon?  I've forgotten already.

Just now, Goofyboy said:


He can’t do that. Congress controls the purse (in theory). Any buyouts have to come from them (in theory). Trump will not pay anyone that quits (not theory).

Better get that money up front!

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This isn’t a buyout. You can check the other thread for more, but employees that accept remain on payroll, get paid on a regular basis, and either keep teleworking or move to admin leave.  It’s not even clear if all agencies will let employees accept, which jobs are exempt, and if employees can even take other jobs before 30 September.  And if you are moved to admin leave you likely take a pay cut in the form of no agency matching to the  government version of a 401k. 

 I’d expect a pretty low uptake nearly only from people planning to leave anyway or retire.  It’s not even as good as voluntary early retirement. 

I think it’s also intended to screw them out of their retirement/pension benefits 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Media rooms should be barred from repeating Trump press releases without a basic fact-check

 

there's office space and infrastructure for everyone to show up next month ?

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9 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Did he get a pardon?  I've forgotten already.

Better get that money up front!

 

yes, not sure how far back it goes though. the orange dumb ass has said in the past he should be executed.

the two bootlickers desantis or abbott could try to dig up state charges ? 

they're going to investigate him for 'undermining the chain of command' to remove stars. wouldn't be shocked if the run his wife kids through a fine tooth comb

does a general pardon cover treason ? they'll be digging up whatever they can find 

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NYTimes put together a list (organized by department) of the approximately 2,600 programs mentioned in the funding freeze. It's a pretty astonishing list. I recommend doing some keyword searches on things to see the impact, such as rural, economic, academic, housing, veterans, etc. Some of the dollar amounts attached to the programs are paltry; others climb up into the $billions.

Hopefully, this gifted link works because I ain't copy/pasting all of this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/01/28/upshot/federal-programs-funding-trump-omb.html?unlocked_article_code=1.s04.qNfh.kv-HCPikQ7up&smid=url-share

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I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic ......

 

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, bolverk said:

NYTimes put together a list (organized by department) of the approximately 2,600 programs mentioned in the funding freeze. It's a pretty astonishing list. I recommend doing some keyword searches on things to see the impact, such as rural, economic, academic, housing, veterans, etc. Some of the dollar amounts attached to the programs are paltry; others climb up into the $billions.

Hopefully, this gifted link works because I ain't copy/pasting all of this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/01/28/upshot/federal-programs-funding-trump-omb.html?unlocked_article_code=1.s04.qNfh.kv-HCPikQ7up&smid=url-share

 

this is the test run. they get to see what they can turn off and get the least amount of push back / public reaction 

 

Senator Cramer (R-ND) on Funding Freeze: It started out as chaos. It's already calmed down. It will be fine.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Media rooms should be barred from repeating Trump press releases without a basic fact-check

 

This is not what my friend was offered.

They got a text message that said you could get 8 months of continued pay if you agree to voluntarily resign.  All they had to do was reply "resign" to that text message and it was done.

She told me this early yesterday, before this story even broke.

Posted
4 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Except all the people he's deporting...

 

Well this will come as no surprise...  He's doing a shitty job of it.  Obama had much higher deportation numbers but you won't hear about that from the Trumpkins

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Yeah, what could go wrong with a voluntary separation w/ pay that is activated by simply replying "resign" to an email? It's like they're casting their first net to the most gullible.

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So many companies routinely pare their employee rolls through RIFs whenever they need to meet their numbers.  The gentler, better ones offer buyouts with various exit incentives.  

Of all the stuff going on, a massive exit incentive plan seems like one of the least problematic things this guy is doing.  Devil's in the details, but you don't have to fight voluntary resignations in courts/federal arbitration, unlike RIFs and firings.  

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I get that some types of work are more amenable to remote work, and others work better in person, but it’s astonishing yet not surprising that it has become a left-right political issue. A republican administration saying that the entirety of a 2 million person workforce needs to be in person across the board is stupid beyond the pale. 

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This sounds fiscally irresponsible. 

Only if you actually payout.

The email was a cut and paste from the email Musk sent Twitter staff and he never paid out a cent of that severance.

I also read that Senator Kaine posted not to accept it because there’s no money allocated for it so there’s no mechanism to make the payments even if they wanted to.
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If it’s really delayed resignation as in you’re on payroll for seven months with no job tasks it could fall within the executive budget. But we all know when they see “resign” they’ll go to payroll immediately to “fix the glitch.” Good luck suing the federal government lol.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Media rooms should be barred from repeating Trump press releases without a basic fact-check

Project 2025 stated he needs to replace 30% of the federal government workforce with loyalists. Thats all this is. 

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Just putting this here. This seems to be the Russian playbook. As it relates to America, foster dissent and isolationism. Fucking Trump and many Republicans are all Russian assets. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

In the Americas, United States, and Canada:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]

 

Does that sound like what's been happening since the advent of social media. It was ramped up with the rise of the orange dipshit. And here we are...

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2 hours ago, TexArcher said:

 

This is not what my friend was offered.

They got a text message that said you could get 8 months of continued pay if you agree to voluntarily resign.  All they had to do was reply "resign" to that text message and it was done.

She told me this early yesterday, before this story even broke.

Can someone with skills please hack DJT and JDV's phones and reply "resign" ASAP? 

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1 hour ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Executive agencies are ignoring the judge ruling and funds still frozen. 
 

 

At what point does a group of oppositionists gather and attempt a violent coup? One week in and they are already just ignoring the law. It's already an insurrection, and the only chance to stop it is to kill/arrest them and seize power. That's where we are right now

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54 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

At what point does a group of oppositionists gather and attempt a violent coup? One week in and they are already just ignoring the law. It's already an insurrection, and the only chance to stop it is to kill/arrest them and seize power. That's where we are right now

This is exactly what they want to play out so that trump can call for martial law then the real party starts.

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What's the point of calling for martial law? He's already doing whatever he wants and ignoring the laws of the land. He's already staging a full insurrection in plain sight 1 week in if that's true they just ignored the federal judge's order. It's already past that point. 

It's now to the point he's either going to be the dictator or he gets overthrown and someone else seizes power with the backing of the military. That's where we are. 

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9 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

What's the point of calling for martial law? He's already doing whatever he wants and ignoring the laws of the land. He's already staging a full insurrection in plain sight 1 week in if that's true they just ignored the federal judge's order. It's already past that point. 

It's now to the point he's either going to be the dictator or he gets overthrown and someone else seizes power with the backing of the military. That's where we are. 

That’s exactly why they’re going to do it. He wants to deploy the military against the population that “don’t fall in line.” It’s part of the Project 2025 playbook and has been talked about coming to a city near you for a bit.

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He can already do that now if the government is just allowing them to blatantly ignore a federal judge's ruling. There's no law at that point. He can deploy the military on Americans now, unless someone steps up to kill/imprison him and his top people and seizes power. I find it hard to believe a power the size of the USA wouldn't have a fight for control once it's established that the rule of law is gone. Get the secret service on your side and a few military generals and have him, Vance, Miller, etc killed and seize control. I wonder who could be in position to do that? It could even be someone from within his own party



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