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12 hours ago, Tuco said:


And typing is much faster. And more legible. And nobody hand writes business letters and rarely personal ones. Shit gets outdated and fuck any schooling system that doesn’t adjust, freeing up time to teach new skills that didn’t exist when I was a kid.

It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory. Arts integrated curricula were included with this as well. Perhaps one can find other newer methods that would perform likewise, but handing children a piece of paper and a pencil is a lot cheaper so I have no objections to it.

Plus, when the power grid fails and our infrastructure collapses, we'll all be educating the children in tents and encampments anyway.

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It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory. Arts integrated curricula were included with this as well. Perhaps one can find other newer methods that would perform likewise, but handing children a piece of paper and a pencil is a lot cheaper so I have no objections to it.
Plus, when the power grid fails and our infrastructure collapses, we'll all be educating the children in tents and encampments anyway.

They still teach hand writing (printing), they just aren’t teaching the second, more formal, script system the west has. I know Montessori schools will work the eye-hand coordination thing before kids can even spell. And it’s not like learning cursive was a light lift; I’m guessing we dedicated 20% of class time, and probably 40% of student effort, of 3rd grade for it. And as someone with shitty eye-hand coordination, it was 95% of my school angst. Fucking hand cramps while failing to get that shit legible.
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2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory. Arts integrated curricula were included with this as well. Perhaps one can find other newer methods that would perform likewise, but handing children a piece of paper and a pencil is a lot cheaper so I have no objections to it.

Plus, when the power grid fails and our infrastructure collapses, we'll all be educating the children in tents and encampments anyway.

 

21 minutes ago, Tuco said:


They still teach hand writing (printing), they just aren’t teaching the second, more formal, script system the west has. I know Montessori schools will work the eye-hand coordination thing before kids can even spell. And it’s not like learning cursive was a light lift; I’m guessing we dedicated 20% of class time, and probably 40% of student effort, of 3rd grade for it. And as someone with shitty eye-hand coordination, it was 95% of my school angst. Fucking hand cramps while failing to get that shit legible.

Two beefs my parents had with my early education were a lack of practice of penmanship (they had Palmer penmanship with a lot of drawing of loops) and math tables.  So, they forced those two things on me outside of school.  As a small child, I pretty much detested practicing anything, but I did those things at their insistence and was probably better off for it.

Weirdly, having to learn a system of printing in drafting/mechanical drawing in my teens transformed my handwriting.

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2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory.

in undergrad and law school I would always make test outlines, and then re-copy them by writing by hand as I spoke the words I was writing.   That way my memory would be provoked by hearing, seeing and using motor skills.

Which was just a workaround for my shitty memory.

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35 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

in undergrad and law school I would always make test outlines, and then re-copy them by writing by hand as I spoke the words I was writing.   That way my memory would be provoked by hearing, seeing and using motor skills.

Which was just a workaround for my shitty memory.

That’s similar to the iterative strategy I developed for myself in undergrad, where I recopied and progressively condensed my notes until all information/concepts fit on an index card or two. The process could also include speaking the notes aloud or drawing small symbols/pictures/flow charts, whatever was needed to get what I needed to stick in my brain. 

It’s a good coping strategy for those of us who suffer from simple minds and addled brains.

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

in undergrad and law school I would always make test outlines, and then re-copy them by writing by hand as I spoke the words I was writing.   That way my memory would be provoked by hearing, seeing and using motor skills.

Which was just a workaround for my shitty memory.

See first year, I actually made outlines, thinking that the process of doing it would reinforce and aid retention.  Others obtained outlines from various sources, including me.

What I failed to do, though, was sit there and read and re-read the goddamn things over and over and over and over again for at least a day.  I hate rote memorization, but this is one way to accompiish it.

So, making my own outlines got me thoroughly meadoker grades in the first year of law school. But when I stopped making my own outlines, used others, but did the obsessive re-reading thing, I made law review grades for the rest of my tenure.

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52 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

It’s a good coping strategy for those of us who suffer from simple minds and addled brains.


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3 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

It's not my area of study, but there was research that suggested that handwriting did assist children with sensorimotor skils and memory. Arts integrated curricula were included with this as well. Perhaps one can find other newer methods that would perform likewise, but handing children a piece of paper and a pencil is a lot cheaper so I have no objections to it.

Plus, when the power grid fails and our infrastructure collapses, we'll all be educating the children in tents and encampments anyway.

Also helps with dyslexia from what I understand.   My kiddos who all have dyslexia to varying degrees did fine with cursive and learned it rather quickly when I taught it to them over a week one summer.   As a person with dysgraphia, my shitty handwriting transcends all formats and language, even non written forms.  

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1 hour ago, Nivek said:

As a person with dysgraphia, my shitty handwriting transcends all formats and language, even non written forms. 

Holy shit! I did not know that such a thing existed. My handwriting has always been almost illegible, to the point where I often cannot read my own handwriting. No amount of practice at penmanship in school would change that.  I was getting poor grades in penmanship as a kid - and when our bar exam was handwritten over three days, I always began the exam by explaining I moved around the country a lot when they used phonetics for spelling, and so ignore the fact that I look like a functional illiterate because I promised to use spellcheck on my briefs.

My mom had beautiful handwriting and was into calligraphy. Which gives you an idea of how much she appreciated my handwriting.

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I have been slightly taken aback that handwriting is no longer taught.  But it's not that big a deal.
After I took mechanical drawing in high school, I took notes in a rough version of single-stroke Gothic lettering all through undergrad.  Had to go back to cursive in law school to be able to puke out essays faster.

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50 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Holy shit! I did not know that such a thing existed. My handwriting has always been almost illegible, to the point where I often cannot read my own handwriting. No amount of practice at penmanship in school would change that.  I was getting poor grades in penmanship as a kid - and when our bar exam was handwritten over three days, I always began the exam by explaining I moved around the country a lot when they used phonetics for spelling, and so ignore the fact that I look like a functional illiterate because I promised to use spellcheck on my briefs.

My mom had beautiful handwriting and was into calligraphy. Which gives you an idea of how much she appreciated my handwriting.

Similar experience my fellow Floridian educated brother.  I didn't learn about it until I was a man.  

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Holy shit! I did not know that such a thing existed. My handwriting has always been almost illegible, to the point where I often cannot read my own handwriting. No amount of practice at penmanship in school would change that.  I was getting poor grades in penmanship as a kid - and when our bar exam was handwritten over three days, I always began the exam by explaining I moved around the country a lot when they used phonetics for spelling, and so ignore the fact that I look like a functional illiterate because I promised to use spellcheck on my briefs.

My mom had beautiful handwriting and was into calligraphy. Which gives you an idea of how much she appreciated my handwriting.

My handwriting is so bad I was almost barred from writing checks for our company. lol. 

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fucking cursive was stupid then and it's fucking stupid now

My saintly grandmother used to write lengthy family letters with her IBM Selectric typewriter with the cursive font ball. I had sever framed, they are precious heirlooms.
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