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11 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Annie continues to be a hypocritical clown. He would spend hours writing posts critical of small infractions by the prior administration.

quote one of the hour long posts. 

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22 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


And what you fail to acknowledge - dishonestly so - is that that “distinction” doesn’t matter. At all. Not even a little bit.
Every single physician, scientist, and statistician in the world could issue a joint statement that “this study is complete garbage and is entirely made up”….and their statement would have exactly as much import and weight as a random post on Surly. Instead, the conclusion that “vaccines cause Autism and also germs and viruses aren’t real and gay people taking poppers causes AIDS” will become law and gospel truth.
That’s the whole point and the whole problem. It’s not that there’s no basis to criticize the completely made up insanity coming out of this admin, it’s that IT DOESN’T MATTER OR MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
The only way to address and stop the bullshit is to stop it before it starts. Because once issued, it becomes law on par with the law of gravity.

Example: The concept of the Alpha male and female.   This was described by a guy (David Mech) in the 1970s looking at wolves in captivity and in the wild.  He later realized that the Alpha male was, dad.  The alpha female, was mom.  He tried to retract his book and correct his mistake.  50 years later you have Chris Pratt preening that he is the Alpha, and Andrew Tate claiming he can teach you to be the Alpha.    

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11 hours ago, Anastasis said:

It was a systematic review of peer reviewed research. You are so far out of your element. 

That is not quite accurate.  If you want to argue science, be prepared to be precise pill-counter, because some of us have gained some experience and authority based on publishing real hard science, not from standing on a 6 inch platform.

See below:  

The Cass Review commissioned a series of several peer-reviewed,[56] independent[57] systematic reviews that looked into different areas of healthcare for children and young people with distress related to gender identity,[58][59] supplemented by qualitative and quantitative research into the treatment and experiences of young people with gender dysphoria and their health outcomes.[55][60] A single search strategy was used for all reviews, with an initial search in May 2021, updated in April 2022. (source)

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7 minutes ago, Nivek said:

That is not quite accurate.  If you want to argue science, be prepared to be precise pill-counter, because some of us have gained some experience and authority based on publishing real hard science, not from standing on a 6 inch platform.

See below:  

The Cass Review commissioned a series of several peer-reviewed,[56] independent[57] systematic reviews that looked into different areas of healthcare for children and young people with distress related to gender identity,[58][59] supplemented by qualitative and quantitative research into the treatment and experiences of young people with gender dysphoria and their health outcomes.[55][60] A single search strategy was used for all reviews, with an initial search in May 2021, updated in April 2022. (source)

Not sure how that says anything different than what I said, but with more words and the copy paste function. Your insecurities are showing buddy. 

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Not sure how that says anything different than what I said, but with more words and the copy paste function. Your insecurities are showing buddy. 

If you cannot understand, then you should feign expertise.  

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1 hour ago, Nivek said:

If you cannot understand, then you should feign expertise.  

lol I for one will sleep well with the knowledge that nivek and the surly real hard science contingent has got it on lockdown. “It” of course being the copy/paste function. Just don’t ask them to do much else. 

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4 hours ago, Anastasis said:

lol I for one will sleep well with the knowledge that nivek and the surly real hard science contingent has got it on lockdown. “It” of course being the copy/paste function. Just don’t ask them to do much else. 

Another side step.  That I am a hard science person, is debatable, I am sure some mathematician could say otherwise. 

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6 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Another side step.  That I am a hard science person, is debatable, I am sure some mathematician could say otherwise. 

Amateur level trolling. It’s nice outside today man. Go grab a michelada and touch grass. 

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Trump's surgeon general nominee, Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, faces scrutiny over credentials - CBS News

Trump’s Surgeon General Pick Distorted Key Parts of Her Résumé

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President Trump's nominee to be the U.S. surgeon general, the Fox News contributor and family medicine physician Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, has described herself as a double board-certified physician with a degree from the University of Arkansas School of Medicine — credentials the president touted in his announcement.

But those claims about her certification and schooling appear to be misleading. 

Nesheiwat actually earned her medical degree from the American University of the Caribbean (AUC) School of Medicine, located in St. Maarten, in the Caribbean, according to records reviewed by CBS News. A spokesperson for the University of Arkansas confirmed to CBS News she completed her residency through its family medicine program in Fayetteville, Arkansas, but did not obtain her medical degree there. 

 

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Putting this in this thread, since I'm guessing all of Trump's cabinet was using Signal

https://www.404media.co/the-signal-clone-the-trump-admin-uses-was-hacked/

 

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A hacker has breached and stolen customer data from TeleMessage, an obscure Israeli company that sells modified versions of Signal and other messaging apps to the U.S. government to archive messages, 404 Media has learned. The data stolen by the hacker contains the contents of some direct messages and group chats sent using its Signal clone, as well as modified versions of WhatsApp, Telegram, and WeChat. TeleMessage was recently the center of a wave of media coverage after Mike Waltz accidentally revealed he used the tool in a cabinet meeting with President Trump.

 

 

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The hack shows that an app gathering messages of the highest ranking officials in the government—Waltz’s chats on the app include recipients that appear to be Marco Rubio, Tulsi Gabbard, and JD Vance—contained serious vulnerabilities that allowed a hacker to trivially access the archived chats of some people who used the same tool. The hacker has not obtained the messages of cabinet members, Waltz, and people he spoke to, but the hack shows that the archived chat logs are not end-to-end encrypted between the modified version of the messaging app and the ultimate archive destination controlled by the TeleMessage customer.

 

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Data related to Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the cryptocurrency giant Coinbase, and other financial institutions are included in the hacked material, according to screenshots of messages and backend systems obtained by 404 Media.

The breach is hugely significant not just for those individual customers, but also for the U.S. government more widely. On Thursday, 404 Media was first to report that at the time U.S. National Security Advisor Waltz accidentally revealed he was using TeleMessage’s modified version of Signal during the cabinet meeting. The use of that tool raised questions about what classification of information was being discussed across the app and how that data was being secured, and came after revelations top U.S. officials were using Signal to discuss active combat operations. 

 

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The hacker did not access all messages stored or collected by TeleMessage, but could have likely accessed more data if they decided to, underscoring the extreme risk posed by taking ordinarily secure end-to-end encrypted messaging apps such as Signal and adding an extra archiving feature to them.

“I would say the whole process took about 15-20 minutes,” the hacker said, describing how they broke into TeleMessage’s systems. “It wasn’t much effort at all.” 404 Media does not know the identity of the hacker, but has verified aspects of the material they have anonymously provided.

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The data includes apparent message contents; the names and contact information for government officials; usernames and passwords for TeleMessage’s backend panel; and indications of what agencies and companies might be TeleMessage customers. The data is not representative of all of TeleMessage’s customers or the sorts of messages it covers; instead, it is snapshots of data passing through TeleMessage’s servers at a point in time. The hacker was able to login to the TeleMessage backend panel using the usernames and passwords found in these snapshots.

A message sent to a group chat called “Upstanding Citizens Brigade” included in the hacked data says its “source type” is “Signal,” indicating it came from TeleMessage’s modified version of the messaging app. The message itself was a link to this tweet posted on Sunday which is a clip of an NBC Meet the Press interview with President Trump about his memecoin. The hacked data includes phone numbers that were part of the group chat.

One hacked message was sent to a group chat apparently associated with the crypto firm Galaxy Digital. One message said, “need 7 dems to get to 60.. would be very close” to the “GD Macro” group. Another message said, “Just spoke to a D staffer on the senate side - 2 cosponsors (Alsobrooks and gillibrand) did not sign the opposition letter so they think the bill still has a good chance of passage the senate with 5 more Ds supporting it.”

This means a hacker was able to steal what appears to be active, timely discussion about the efforts behind passing a hugely important and controversial cryptocurrency bill; Saturday, Democratic lawmakers published a letter explaining they would oppose it. Bill cosponsors Maryland Sen. Angela Alsobrooks and New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand did not sign that letter.

One screenshot of the hacker’s access to a TeleMessage panel lists the names, phone numbers, and email addresses of CBP officials. The screenshot says “select 0 of 747,” indicating that there may be that many CBP officials included in the data. A similar screenshot shows the contact information of current and former Coinbase employees. 

Another screenshot obtained by 404 Media mentions Scotiabank. Financial institutions might turn to a tool like TeleMessage to comply with regulations around keeping copies of business communications. Governments have legal requirements to preserve messages in a similar way.

Another screenshot indicates that the Intelligence Branch of the Washington D.C. Metropolitan Police may be using the tool.

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The hacker was able to access data that the app captured intermittently for debugging purposes, and would not have been able to capture every single message or piece of data that passes through TeleMessage’s service. However, the sample data they captured did contain fragments of live, unencrypted data passing through TeleMessage’s production server on their way to getting archived.

404 Media verified the hacked data in various ways. First, 404 Media phoned some of the numbers listed as belonging to CBP officials. In one case, a person who answered said their name was the same as the one included in the hacked data, then confirmed their affiliation with CBP when asked. The voicemail message for another number included the name of an alleged CBP official included in the data.

404 Media ran several phone numbers that appeared to be associated with employees at crypto firms Coinbase and Galaxy through a search tool called OSINT Industries, which confirmed that these phone numbers belonged to people who worked for these companies.

The server that the hacker compromised is hosted on Amazon AWS’s cloud infrastructure in Northern Virginia. By reviewing the source code of TeleMessage’s modified Signal app for Android, 404 Media confirmed that the app sends message data to this endpoint. 404 Media also made an HTTP request to this server to confirm that it is online.

TeleMessage came to the fore after a Reuters photographer took a photo in which Waltz was using his mobile phone. Zooming in on that photo revealed he was using a modified version of Signal made by TeleMessage. The photograph came around a month after The Atlantic reported that top U.S. officials were using Signal to message one another about military operations. As part of that, Waltz accidentally added the editor-in-chief of the publication to the Signal group chat.

TeleMessage offers governments and companies a way to archive messages from end-to-end encrypted messaging apps such as Signal and WhatsApp. TeleMessage does this by making modified versions of those apps that send copies of messages to a remote server. A video from TeleMessage posted to YouTube claims that its app keeps “intact the Signal security and end-to-end encryption when communicating with other Signal users.”

“The only difference is the TeleMessage version captures all incoming and outgoing Signal messages for archiving purposes,” the video continues.

It is not true that an archiving solution properly preserves the security offered by an end-to-end encrypted messaging app such as Signal. Ordinarily, only someone sending a Signal message and their intended recipient will be able to read the contents of the message. TeleMessage essentially adds a third party to that conversation by sending copies of those messages somewhere else for storage. If not stored securely, those copies could in turn be susceptible to monitoring or falling into the wrong hands.

That theoretical risk has now become very real. 

A Signal spokesperson previously told 404 Media in email “We cannot guarantee the privacy or security properties of unofficial versions of Signal.”

White House deputy press secretary Anna Kelly previously told NBC News in an email: “As we have said many times, Signal is an approved app for government use and is loaded on government phones.”

The hacker told 404 Media that they targeted TeleMessage because they were “just curious how secure it was.” They did not want to disclose the issue to the company directly because they believed the company might “try their best to cover it up.”

“If I could have found this in less than 30 minutes then anybody else could too. And who knows how long it’s been vulnerable?” the hacker said. 

404 Media is not explaining in detail how the hacker managed to obtain this data in case others may try to exploit the same vulnerability.

According to public procurement records, TeleMessage has contracts with a range of U.S. government agencies, including the State Department and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Guy Levit, CEO of TeleMessage, directed a request for comment to a press representative of Smarsh, TeleMessage’s parent company. That representative did not immediately respond to an email or voicemail.

Recently, after the wave of media coverage about Waltz’s use of the tool, TeleMessage wiped its website. Before then it contained details on the services it offers, what its apps were capable of, and in some cases direct downloads for the archiving apps themselves. 

Neither CBP, Coinbase, Scotiabank, Galaxy Digital, nor Washington D.C. Metropolitan Police responded to a request for comment.

 

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4 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Hey, she made it through 3 games of Operation without hitting the buzzer!

If it's good enough for dotard it's good enough for me.

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But Nesheiwat is a single-specialty doctor who was not able to commission as a military officer; obtained her medical degree outside of the U.S.; became a walk-in-care provider who also sells a health supplement and was for a few years an on-air contributor to Fox News; has apparently not published in any medical or other scientific journals; and has no apparent credentials in public health.

Her photos are fraudulent too.  She's a heftychonk.

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Homan needs throat punched.

 

 

 

This guy is the biggest meat headed, mealy mouthed schlub I have ever seen in my life.  He is that fat mushy, neanderthal browed kid in middle school who hung out with the bullies because he thought they liked him, when he didn't realize he was just their bi-pedal punching bag.  

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21 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Amateur level trolling. It’s nice outside today man. Go grab a michelada and touch grass. 

It is clear that you are just deflecting and projecting.  

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3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Homan needs throat punched.

 

 

 

And why did the bipartisan border bill fail to pass under President Biden you dumbfuck?  

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The amazing thing about Anastasis’ high-hatted grumping about social media is that precisely none of his litany of gripes gets any traction absent social media.

On no planet are we running studies to combat an imaginary link between autism and vaccines absent social media’s unique ability to connect the mentally ill and desperate with conmen and grifters.

Trans panic? Entirely dependent on social media flame wars.

Then of course there’s his running battle to advance Russia’s interests in any sphere, another activity that requires social media-enabled information manipulation.  There was zero American appetite for Russian bullshit about anything until the kooks suddenly found it directly injected into their feed.

It’s undeniable that a world without social media produces the kind of centrist, establishment friendly politics and discourse that the too-smart crew hates.  Social media is not his enemy. 

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Former pro rasslin’ promoter writes angry, barely coherent to Harvard. About one-third of this is just references to Bill Ackman grievances. 
 

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It really is wild how the Chris Rufo thread here on Surly was a bellweather for national politics yet to come. 

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13 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

This guy is the biggest meat headed, mealy mouthed schlub I have ever seen in my life.  He is that fat mushy, neanderthal browed kid in middle school who hung out with the bullies because he thought they liked him, when he didn't realize he was just their bi-pedal punching bag.  

He’s a goon. 

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14 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Something really really bad is going to happen soon. The fun part is there are just so many possibilities of what could happen!

Duh. The Biden overhang is expected to last 3 years.

...unless something good happens.

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