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8 minutes ago, CleverNickname said:

All of TMs old camp culture articles are free too. I think it was the 1975 article that quoted a freshman woman at UT saying "I wint get into this sorority, I went to the wrong summer camp." that really clicked the camp to greek class/wealth connection for me. That one sentence explained it all. 

Nothing has changed. The day many of these girls are born you call and put them on the list for summer camp and if you want them to go to Texas you put them on the list for Hardin House. Been this way for a long long time. 

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My wife has found out Aiden Heartfiled has been found.  All our local Beaumont folks are accounted for.  Thanks be to God.  Give those volunteers the strength to carry on.  Can't imagine.  

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13 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

Nothing has changed. The day many of these girls are born you call and put them on the list for summer camp and if you want them to go to Texas you put them on the list for Hardin House. Been this way for a long long time. 

I haven’t heard of any of this prior to now.  I wonder if all the transplants know about this, or if it just adds to the deepening of a certain in-group. 
 

my family were transplants in 1980. 

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On 7/11/2025 at 7:01 AM, LCHorn said:

It’s $7200 for the 4 week season at La Junta, and that’s before the trunk, getting there, $150 at the camp store, paying for photos, etc.  From what I’ve seen, Mystic and Waldemar are a little more.  
 

So about $15k for two kids-that’s a month traveling abroad on a family vacation to pretty much anywhere else in the world.  

Damn, nice racket

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Here are some things I’ve learned in the last week:

- my daughter’s friend, and I’m close with her parents, evacuated to Rec Center 2nd floor.  Once apparently safe, a counselor told the girls to say their last prayers.  This caused girls to throw up and pee themselves.

- our good friends’ daughter was saved by eastland and his pickup just before he took his last fateful run.  Mom is super thankful and had a direct relationship with Dick including directly texting him.  Dad is thankful but pissed.  Seems similar to dynamic I’ve seen with a lot of couples.

- Waldemar evacuated Happy Haven 1 and 2, the only buildings with campers anywhere close to Guadalupe, right after the first warning at about 1:25.  Jeanne Stacy is the camp director there and personally got the girls, along with help from seasonal Mexican hires that apparently were awesome for them.  Happy Havens got only 3 feet of water. Rest of Waldemar unharmed. Waldemar’s seasonal help grabbed all kayaks from riverbank.  Stacy married into Eastland family, y’all need to look into her and why she left Mystic.  I’ve heard stories why, and my experience with her has been nothing but great.

- the house we were staying at 5 days before July 4th was about 10 houses away from the house in the Texas Monthly story.  It got 4 feet of water.  The owner had several homes behind it and told me he gave those up to first responders.

A lot more rumors about lawsuits and anecdotes that I can’t verify and won’t post about.

 

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38 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I haven’t heard of any of this prior to now.  I wonder if all the transplants know about this, or if it just adds to the deepening of a certain in-group. 
 

my family were transplants in 1980. 

Honestly at this point I think the legacy pool has grown so wide that even some girls whose mothers attended arent getting in. As you might imagine these people completely lose their shit. 

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13 minutes ago, King George said:

Stacy married into Eastland family, y’all need to look into her and why she left Mystic.  I’ve heard stories why, and my experience with her has been nothing but great.

 

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A lot more rumors about lawsuits and anecdotes that I can’t verify and won’t post about.

 

You, yourself, are rumor-mongering right here. Either have the guts to say what you want to say behind an anonymous account, or shut the fuck up.

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13 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

 

You, yourself, are rumor-mongering right here. Either have the guts to say what you want to say behind an anonymous account, or shut the fuck up.

No, I won’t. Lawsuits are a given. I wrote what I wrote because I have heard directly affected families openly talk about them and it’s surprising. I won’t post until I see a filing. 

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Speculation from a seat close to the action -- I think that there will be a lawsuit that many but not all victim families will join, but those involved will have the discretion to settle for policy limits + the camp itself. Which then should be made into a memorial/park/swimming hole. 

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1 minute ago, King George said:

No, I won’t. Lawsuits are a given. I wrote what I wrote because I have heard directly affected families openly talk about them and it’s surprising. I won’t post until I see a filing. 

Then, shut the fuck up. What you may or may not have heard directly from the affected families becomes a rumor when you spread it second-hand on the internet to the rest of us.

And, as we should all have learned by now, internet rumors can take a life of their own and cause material damage in the real world.

Read this again: Stacy married into Eastland family, y’all need to look into her and why she left Mystic.  I’ve heard stories why...

"We" need to look into her and why she left. What do you expect a bunch of keyboard warriors, or even others who knew some of the families or kids, to do with this information?

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

Then, shut the fuck up. What you may or may not have heard directly from the affected families becomes a rumor when you spread it second-hand on the internet to the rest of us.

And, as we should all have learned by now, internet rumors can take a life of their own and cause material damage in the real world.

Read this again: Stacy married into Eastland family, y’all need to look into her and why she left Mystic.  I’ve heard stories why...

"We" need to look into her and why she left. What do you expect a bunch of keyboard warriors, or even others who knew some of the families or kids, to do with this information?

I expect you to type longer responses. 

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3 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Confirmation this guy is Rex.

No I’m not. You’re attacking for no reason. You’re hanging onto 2 pieces of my post that otherwise should’ve been viewed as informative. Those 2 specific comments were written with the intent of seeing if others are hearing the same things. For example, others may know the story about Stacy leaving Mystic. 

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1 hour ago, King George said:

Waldemar evacuated Happy Haven 1 and 2, the only buildings with campers anywhere close to Guadalupe, right after the first warning at about 1:25

This is how it was supposed to've been done.

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On the Stacy/Eastland thing, I did gather from the TM article that a) Mystic was kind of "abandoned" by the rest of the family to Dick and Tweety Eastland (meaning none showed interest in fully running it, but various family members have continued to be involved) and b) the Eastland branch then became rather proprietary about it.

So, it would not surprise me much to hear a Stacy couldn't get back involved heavily in the operation of the Camp.

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