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44 minutes ago, Captainant said:

https://www.house.gov/the-house-explained/the-legislative-process

"All Legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."
(Article I, Section 1, of the United States Constitution)

How Are Laws Made?
Laws begin as ideas. First, a representative sponsors a bill. The bill is then assigned to a committee for study. If released by the committee, the bill is put on a calendar to be voted on, debated or amended. If the bill passes by simple majority (218 of 435), the bill moves to the Senate. In the Senate, the bill is assigned to another committee and, if released, debated and voted on. Again, a simple majority (51 of 100) passes the bill. Finally, a conference committee made of House and Senate members works out any differences between the House and Senate versions of the bill. The resulting bill returns to the House and Senate for final approval. The Government Publishing Office prints the revised bill in a process called enrolling. The President has 10 days to sign or veto the enrolled bill.

He’s a fucking moron. Do not engage

Posted
10 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Why is it so damn hard for you to say that, technically, 51 votes are all that’s required to pass a Senate bill? That is a true statement.   Why do you refuse to talk about filibuster and cloture?   Is it because bills regarding the budget, taxation, spending, and raising the debt ceiling can be passed with a separate process called reconciliation which cannot be filibustered? 

You simply refuse to discuss the rules or the process and hide behind Snark. Stop that please.

He’s an idiot. And a lying piece of shit. Please don’t quote him

Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Bullshit.  I’ve said repeatedly the disingenuous simple jack question bullshit was merely an advocacy for nuking the filibuster.

For the record I’m against nuking the filibuster.  I also agree the filibuster should be the old school talking filibuster, but that’s not happening.

So you don’t want to nuke the filibuster. Fine. Then what do you want the Republicans to do given their current proposed legislation doesn’t have the votes?

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Posted
8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

god damn everyone's pretty deep into the bottle tonight

Fuck you aggie. Our shit is rightfully on melt down mode. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

So you don’t want to nuke the filibuster. Fine. Then what do you want the Republicans to do given their current proposed legislation doesn’t have the votes?

Just spitballing here…. maybe walk back a part of the big beautiful bill that closes all the rural hospitals and ends healthcare coverage for millions of people and cuts food to the poor - but doesn’t go into effect after the November election?

Posted
Just now, Gatorubet said:

Just spitballing here…. maybe walk back a part of the big beautiful bill that closes all the rural hospitals and ends healthcare coverage for millions of people and cuts food to the poor - but doesn’t go into effect after the November election?

That’s what you might want them to do. I’m interested in what Incredulity wants them to do. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

So you don’t want to nuke the filibuster. Fine. Then what do you want the Republicans to do given their current proposed legislation doesn’t have the votes?

Scream nonstop about obstruction 

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Posted
Just now, Incredulity said:

Scream nonstop about obstruction 

Oh.  You have a problem with the GOP not being able to hurt poor and sick people.  Gotcha. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

And when that doesn’t work?

Well, nothing that is happening here is what I want.

What I think will happen?  I think the Republicans stay the course till Shumer concedes.  I think he and the D’s have vastly more constituent pressure building every day the gov’t is shutdown.  Also, making a Trillion in temporary spending permanent for a CR isn’t tenable.

 But, your guess is as good as mine regarding what actually does happen.

Posted (edited)
44 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Scream nonstop about obstruction 

Yes. This is what your side has done for nigh on 20 years now. 

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The obstruction part. Well, both I guess.


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