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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]


Patrick Bateman

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I’m absolutely sure Bernie would’ve won in 16. Democratic support outside major urban areas in the rust belt would not have collapsed the way it did.

I’m not sure about this year. Millions of previous non voters have joined Cult 45. Some portion of Midwestern suburbanites would’ve been scared by the socialism bullshit. I don’t know if black voters come out for Bernie like they did Biden.
Bernie could have easily outflanked trump on populism and rural issues and destroyed him in the rust belt IMO. 16 or 20. You're probably right in that 16 would have been easier to pull off.
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Things are trending toward a Biden 55K win in Pennsylvania. I think the Democratic estimates from last night were overstated but he's still on pace to win.

Not sure if Philadelphia is more represented in what's been counted since last night or what remains to be counted. That could tilt things one direction or another but with apparently over 70,000 Philadelphia ballots left things still look solidly like a Biden win.

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Just now, Huckleberry said:

Things are trending toward a Biden 55K win in Pennsylvania. I think the Democratic estimates from last night were overstated but he's still on pace to win.

Not sure if Philadelphia is more represented in what's been counted since last night or what remains to be counted. That could tilt things one direction or another but with apparently over 70,000 Philadelphia ballots left things still look solidly like a Biden win.

There is a lot of ballots that are being secluded from these ballots in PA from what I understand. 

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4 minutes ago, gmr548 said:


I’m absolutely sure Bernie would’ve won in 16. Democratic support outside major urban areas in the rust belt would not have collapsed the way it did.

I’m not sure about this year. Millions of previous non voters have joined Cult 45. Some portion of Midwestern suburbanites would’ve been scared by the socialism bullshit. I don’t know if black voters come out for Bernie like they did Biden.

While I think it’s possible Bernie could have won in 2016, I think it’s silly to assume only Joe Biden could beat Trump in 2020.  There are too many unknown variables to speculate with any kind of confidence and I think it’s safe to say polling data isn’t that reliable. 

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Bernie could have easily outflanked trump on populism and rural issues and destroyed him in the rust belt IMO. 16 or 20. You're probably right in that 16 would have been easier to pull off.

Trump voters don’t give a fuck about policy in 2020. Trump could come out in favor of Medicare for All and the Green New Deal and they would be all for it.
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4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Things are trending toward a Biden 55K win in Pennsylvania. I think the Democratic estimates from last night were overstated but he's still on pace to win.

Not sure if Philadelphia is more represented in what's been counted since last night or what remains to be counted. That could tilt things one direction or another but with apparently over 70,000 Philadelphia ballots left things still look solidly like a Biden win.

The 100k victory that Senator Casey was pushing was the final certified total after the late arriving mail in ballots and provisional ballots. 

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1 minute ago, Helobious said:

Trump just took the recent batch of liberal-leaning Pima votes 51-47%. If that trend continues he’ll overtake Biden there.

This guy should be banned if none of his stupid fucking predictions come true. 

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