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A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

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54 minutes ago, JohnnyRage said:

This one is going first because there is a Statue Of Limitations in NY that is running out of punts.

 

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That has been noted, but, unlike federal statutes of limitation, NY's "tolls" (stops running) when the defendant is outside of the state. 

Still, they can't screw around and risk it. 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I gotta say I'm a bit worried about this one.

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In the meantime, enjoy this repost from a page or two ago, of Junior melting down, and speculate about what he's on.

 

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Hold on, doesn’t the wig have to come off for the booking photo ?

Twitter handle:  #DonaldTrumpsWig, #DTW

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I gotta say I'm a bit worried about this one.  As has been alluded to, John Edwards beat a similar rap in 2011 that also included false statements to investigators.

This one adds a layer to it with the NY falsifying busines records thing, but they still have to prove the campaign finance violation to make it a felony.

It's going to suck if he manages to be acquitted, and as far as I can tell this is the weakest of the cases under consideration by the authorities, at least in terms of legal soundness.

Are we sure we know the charges he faces in his indictment? Might there be elements of which the public is unaware?

Fox News is reporting that someone else will testify to the GJ tomorrow, so Trump won't be arrested until next week at the earliest.

2 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Fox News is reporting that someone else will testify to the GJ tomorrow, so Trump won't be arrested until next week at the earliest.

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7 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Are we sure we know the charges he faces in his indictment? Might there be elements of which the public is unaware?

Possible yes. Pretty credible reporting on the nature of the charges under consideration and we know of quite a few of the witnesses. 

It does seem like Bragg is bending over backwards to provide a "fair" grand jury.  Apparently giving the defendant the opportunity to testify is built in to NY law or custom, but they're going beyond that fairly substantially with Costello etc. 

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So Trump lied to us?

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11 minutes ago, miguelito said:

So Trump lied to us?

 

No silly, it was an excuse to fundraise this week.

 

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Should Trump's little army show up with weapons locked and loaded, what are the odds Trump will be hit by a stray bullet fired from an assault rifle wielded by some bastard so fat he can't properly aim.

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1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

Should Trump's little army show up with weapons locked and loaded, what are the odds Trump will be hit by a stray bullet fired from an assault rifle wielded by some bastard so fat he can't properly aim.

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Not good enough.

30 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Fox News is reporting that someone else will testify to the GJ tomorrow, so Trump won't be arrested until next week at the earliest.

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30 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Fox News is reporting that someone else will testify to the GJ tomorrow, so Trump won't be arrested until next week at the earliest.

Oh God. Another week of his whining about being arrested...eventually. Hopefully he won't do something dumb like say a lot of inflammatory things on Truth Social. 

Oh shit.  The barricades are for the witness going in to testify today and tomorrow.  The police presence is to protect them now, not Trump.  Interesting turn.  

46 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Fox News is reporting that someone else will testify to the GJ tomorrow, so Trump won't be arrested until next week at the earliest.

The Daily podcast said the same thing yesterday. The guy they interviewed seemed surprised everyone took a tweet by Donald seriously and ran with it when there is clearly another witness on the list. 

20 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Oh shit.  The barricades are for the witness going in to testify today and tomorrow.  The police presence is to protect them now, not Trump.  Interesting turn.  

So who would require that kind of security? Melania? Pence? 

What kind of idiots have meetings about an arrest and arrange extra police for today and then don’t do it. Clowns 

14 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

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1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

Fox News is reporting that someone else will testify to the GJ tomorrow, so Trump won't be arrested until next week at the earliest.

 

37 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Oh shit.  The barricades are for the witness going in to testify today and tomorrow.  The police presence is to protect them now, not Trump.  Interesting turn.  

 

16 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

So who would require that kind of security? Melania? Pence? 

Literally anybody who is testifying? If its a grand jury proceedings only prosecution witnesses testify, so anyone entering the courthouse for the proceeding will be to testify against the fat orange fuck and a target of every q and gravy seal fuckstick who shows up. Trump almost certainly doesn't know anything about how the system works but someone probably told him it was a grand jury and the common thought that grand juries can indict a ham sandwich. I've heard that phrase more with respect to federal courts since they are more selective in the cases they pursue but probably applies here too since the evidence of his wrongs have been pretty overwhelming.

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Are we sure we know the charges he faces in his indictment? Might there be elements of which the public is unaware?

I can't imagine they'd go through all this trouble for low level charges or on shaky evidence. It would just be a disaster if they do and they should know that. But who knows with people these days

I think DeSantis just blue himself 

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

In the meantime, enjoy this repost from a page or two ago, of Junior melting down, and speculate about what he's on.

 

 

 

I read that last word as witchcuntery and thought it was pretty funny.  I think I will add witchcuntery to my repertoire but in Nandor's voice. 

11 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

 

Literally anybody who is testifying? If its a grand jury proceedings only prosecution witnesses testify, so anyone entering the courthouse for the proceeding will be to testify against the fat orange fuck and a target of every q and gravy seal fuckstick who shows up. Trump almost certainly doesn't know anything about how the system works but someone probably told him it was a grand jury and the common thought that grand juries can indict a ham sandwich. I've heard that phrase more with respect to federal courts since they are more selective in the cases they pursue but probably applies here too since the evidence of his wrongs have been pretty overwhelming.

Trump was informed by his counsel that he could testify if he wanted to. That's the "leak."

 

Obviously, they declined, but apparently used the opportunity to bring their own witnesses such as Costello before the GJ. 

 

As stated by several, just another example of Trump flooding the channel with bullshit that winds up controlling the narrative, at least among the magat morons. 

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

In the meantime, enjoy this repost from a page or two ago, of Junior melting down, and speculate about what he's on.

 

Were the Bolsheviks big witch hunters? I ask this as somebody who doesn't know.

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1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

Fox News is reporting that someone else will testify to the GJ tomorrow, so Trump won't be arrested until next week at the earliest.

Trump said he would be arrested today. That’s how we knew he wouldn’t be arrested today. 

14 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

I can't imagine they'd go through all this trouble for low level charges or on shaky evidence. It would just be a disaster if they do and they should know that. But who knows with people these days

My fear is that Bragg is being an opportunist. 

He did apparently refuse to bring the James case as a criminal action, so that may be a data point against that.  And, to some extent, limitations is running, forcing his hand. 

I have confidence that Garland will bring as close to a winner as possible. I don't think we know much about Bragg really. 

3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I gotta say I'm a bit worried about this one.  As has been alluded to, John Edwards beat a similar rap in 2011 that also included false statements to investigators.

This one adds a layer to it with the NY falsifying busines records thing, but they still have to prove the campaign finance violation to make it a felony.

It's going to suck if he manages to be acquitted, and as far as I can tell this is the weakest of the cases under consideration by the authorities, at least in terms of legal soundness.

 

goddamn man, can you at least give us this one, for just a few hours?

 

Just now, High Plains Drifter said:

 

goddamn man, can you at least give us this one, for just a few hours?

 

Nah in addition to all of trump's lies, we've had a shit ton of breathless bad reporting about what comes next for him. 

I'm just saving you a massive case of blue balls. 

And hey I could be wrong and would be happy to be. 

 

40 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

What kind of idiots have meetings about an arrest and arrange extra police for today and then don’t do it. Clowns 

I think you have to take precautions about any kind of attack just based on Trump fake tweeting about one. Plus putting the word out that you’re deploying personnel and setting up barricades will probably discourage protesters from attempting an attack whenever an arrest is eventually made. 

3 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I think you have to take precautions about any kind of attack just based on Trump fake tweeting about one. Plus putting the word out that you’re deploying personnel and setting up barricades will probably discourage protesters from attempting an attack whenever an arrest is eventually made. 

I would think that would just bring them out in larger numbers

11 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

My fear is that Bragg is being an opportunist. 

He did apparently refuse to bring the James case as a criminal action, so that may be a data point against that.  And, to some extent, limitations is running, forcing his hand. 

I have confidence that Garland will bring as close to a winner as possible. I don't think we know much about Bragg really. 

I’d like to know why Trump wasn’t arrested back in late January of 2021 for paying off Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. We knew he was Individual 1. We’ve seen the checks. What took them so long?

3 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I would think that would just bring them out in larger numbers

Like the sand people?

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2 hours ago, YGIFS said:

I mean, the guy is dumb but it's impossible he's this dumb.  

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9 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I’d like to know why Trump wasn’t arrested back in late January of 2021 for paying off Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. We knew he was Individual 1. We’ve seen the checks. What took them so long?

As I have stated, he was individual 1 on a piece of paper representing some 8 or 9 discrete criminal charges, all of which carried the same or a much greater penalty than the campaign finance violation. 

Most importantly, though, the allegations of that piece of paper were never proven, against Cohen or anyone else. He pled guilty. 

Limitations on that expired in October 2021 giving DOJ a pretty short window to prosecute something far from proven. 

34 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

I didn't even love He-Man as much as these guys love trump and he had the fuckin power.

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

As I have stated, he was individual 1 on a piece of paper representing some 8 or 9 discrete criminal charges, all of which carried the same or a much greater penalty than the campaign finance violation. 

Most importantly, though, the allegations of that piece of paper were never proven, against Cohen or anyone else. He pled guilty. 

Limitations on that expired in October 2021 giving DOJ a pretty short window to prosecute something far from proven. 

Everything that is true today that is leading them to bring charges now was true back then. No new shit has come to light. We all know what happened. I was asking the same question back then. What are they doing now that they couldn’t have done two years ago?

 

I would really really like to see some magat on nypd violence. Throw in a few twitchy AR fingers as the dingle-cherry on the shit sundae.

 

Pre-dOtaRD, I would never had said such a thing. Thanks Obama!

 

 

9 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Everything that is true today that is leading them to bring charges now was true back then. No new shit has come to light. We all know what happened. I was asking the same question back then. What are they doing now that they couldn’t have done two years ago?

Well, you realize that it's not the feds bringing this case, it's Alvin Bragg and it is a different case, as I have explained.  

The campaign finance violation appears not to be the charge.  Falsifying business records is the charge and that becomes a felony when the intention is to use the falsified records to commit another crime.  The "another crime" appears to be the campaign finance violation.  It isn't clear to me that it has to be proven BRD.

The cases seem to be quite different on several levels, not just the jurisdiction of the prosecutor.

I don't think you can say that everything that was true then is true today, and it has taken Bragg himself two years plus to get to this.  

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Nab him in the middle of his rally in Waco.  

17 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I don't think you can say that everything that was true then is true today, and it has taken Bragg himself two years plus to get to this.

I think I can say it and I’m saying it. There’s nothing about this case that I didn’t know back while Trump was still in office other than the name of the person who finally got off his ass and brought the case. Who’s bringing it is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter that Cohen’s was a federal case and this is a state case. It doesn’t matter that Cohen pled guilty. That’s as true today as it was five years ago and it’s not stopping them from bringing the case now. I conclude that it wasn’t stopping them from bringing the case in 2021. I don’t care if it’s Bragg bringing the case. Who’s bringing it doesn’t matter. Let my Aunt Fannie bring it. “They,” whoever that might be, should’ve brought the case in 2021.

One quick correction. Trump never paid Karen McDougal for her silence. The National Enquirer did. Michael Cohen worked out an agreement to pay them $125,000 for the NDA portion of that deal but it was never finalized. A recording was released of Cohen and Trump discussing the payment but payment was never actually made.

Also, Trump publicly acknowledged his NDA with Stormy Daniels and his reimbursement to Cohen back in May of 2018.

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We’re not in a court of law right now so we can say it. Trump fucked Stormy and bought her silence to keep it from being made public during his campaign. You know it, I know it, Trump knows it, Melania knows it, everyone knows it. I don’t see what legalese you might conjure to legitimately justify why someone is bringing charges against Trump for it now rather than back in 2021 other than to basically say, ‘They just are.’ The wheels should’ve been in motion to bring this case against Trump the moment he left office and lost the immunity of being President. 

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