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What’s with the cult folks asking what the crime was and that they never specified the crime? My niece said this and I’ve seen it repeated.

The entire transcript is online. There are 1000’s of articles detailing and explaining the charges and the law / laws broken. I can’t figure out where this “not stating the crime” is coming from.

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32 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

What’s with the cult folks asking what the crime was and that they never specified the crime? My niece said this and I’ve seen it repeated.

The entire transcript is online. There are 1000’s of articles detailing and explaining the charges and the law / laws broken. I can’t figure out where this “not stating the crime” is coming from.

It's a load of shit is what it is.  It is being deliberately obtuse to the fact that this statute is on the books, has been there a long time, and is routinely prosecuted.  

Trump was afforded due process at every turn and lost because he's guilty as sin.

Fairly insightful article concerning why the feds didn't bring similar (not identical) charges.  https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/why-did-federal-prosecutors-drop-trump's-hush-money-case

Notable:  Most of the investigating and trial attorneys in the DOJ are non-political civil servants, even if their masters are political appointees.  These civil servants spent years being deterred in their investigations by Barr and other Trump appointees.  That gave them some inertia that was hard to overcome once the DOJ became mostly apolitical again under Biden.  This is apart from any notion on the part of Biden/Garland/newly apolitical DOJ that being apolitical required avoiding inherently political prosecutions.

Also notable:  the federal election crime has more stringent requirements for the mental state necessary to prove the crime than the NY statute, thus making it necessary to prove that Trump both knew of the scheme and intended to violate election laws.

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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Just repeating what they hear on Fox News. It’s very easy to be a Republican voter. You watch Fox News, repeat what you hear, and consider yourself informed. It takes very little effort and no actual thinking. 

And lots and lots of bias.  Because they're spouting what their supporters want to hear, especially the hits. 

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What’s with the cult folks asking what the crime was and that they never specified the crime? My niece said this and I’ve seen it repeated.

The entire transcript is online. There are 1000’s of articles detailing and explaining the charges and the law / laws broken. I can’t figure out where this “not stating the crime” is coming from.

Because Trump keeps saying it.
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4 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

 

If you ask them they won't be able to articulate this, but It relates to the fact that falsifying business records, by itself, is a misdemeanor.  For this case to be considered a Felony, there needed to be an underlying crime. In the Judge's instructions, he specified to the Jury that they didn't need to be in unanimous agreement about what the exact underlying crime was, but only whether it fit into one of the 3 choices available.  

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Of course the sheepherders jumped all over this and twisted it for the galactically stupid, but that's where it comes from.

 

One of the initial problems with the case was whether they actually had to prove the FECA offense, which was believed to be the only "predicate" crime raising it to a felony.

It became clearer as things progressed that the statute, according to pretty settled law, only required proof of intent to commit the "predicate" crime. or to conceal it, not actually have committed the crime.

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8 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

 

If you ask them they won't be able to articulate this, but It relates to the fact that falsifying business records, by itself, is a misdemeanor.  For this case to be considered a Felony, there needed to be an underlying crime. In the Judge's instructions, he specified to the Jury that they didn't need to be in unanimous agreement about what the exact underlying crime was, but only whether it fit into one of the 3 choices available.  

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Of course the sheepherders jumped all over this and twisted it for the galactically stupid, but that's where it comes from.

 

 

You expect me to believe that the erudite voter that makes up the Trump base does not have the capacity to understand a simple concept like this?

Or would fall for such brazen tomfoolery to muddy what is not all that difficult to understand?

No sir. 

This is a bridge too far.

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Serious question:

When this fucktard croaks his last Orange-Jabba breath, what happens to:

-the GOP (locally, state orgs, nationally)

-his sycophants who have attached themselves to him in DC

-the brainless, brainwashed cult-members in our families and communities 

 

Is there a risk there’s someone fills that power vacuum who is even more dangerous to The Republic?  Someone who has the ability to galvanize the dumbasses like Trump?

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I think he only took advantage of what was simmering so I don't think we get a reprieve from the phenomenon only from seeing his ugly face and hearing his putrid rhetoric that everything is rigged. he may have been the best at taking advantage so maybe the GOP won't be as forceful but the movement is not built by trump only taken advantage by trump so we still have to deal with christian nationalism, Q conspiracy theories, gun fanatics, climate change deniers (though this seems to be fading some).

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30 minutes ago, TeeDubya said:

Serious question:

When this fucktard croaks his last Orange-Jabba breath, what happens to:

-the GOP (locally, state orgs, nationally)

-his sycophants who have attached themselves to him in DC

-the brainless, brainwashed cult-members in our families and communities 

Is there a risk there’s someone fills that power vacuum who is even more dangerous to The Republic?  Someone who has the ability to galvanize the dumbasses like Trump?

At the national level, it’s going to be one helluva fight between the various Republican factions/would-be leaders as they try to get control of the RNC.  At the state level, lines will be drawn over various issues (think school vouchers here in Texas).

As for our families/communities, these people will keep on being distracted by whatever Fox News churns out and will go back to being what they were before.  Some, maybe even many, will claim they weren’t Trump supporters depending on any stigma from others pointing out how he’s such a loser.

I’m not worried about somebody galvanizing the masses like Trump did.  He was extremely unique and suited for the time, and he connected with the morons in a way that no other Republicans have been able to do.  Anybody who comes now will be more focused on rebuilding the GOP by necessity, because Trump is gutting the very infrastructure/resources that would help anybody not named Trump. He’s willing to completely sacrifice the future of the GOP for his short-term gain, and it will be a pain in the ass to rebuild, given the loss of institutional knowledge. 

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2 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

This is why folks.  He does it for this one and that one.  

Strange reason to bang porn stars and Playboy models but cool, I guess.

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8 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

This is why folks.  He does it for this one and that one.  

He doesn't even know their names.

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15 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I’m not worried about somebody galvanizing the masses like Trump did.  He was extremely unique and suited for the time, and he connected with the morons in a way that no other Republicans have been able to do.  Anybody who comes now will be more focused on rebuilding the GOP by necessity, because Trump is gutting the very infrastructure/resources that would help anybody not named Trump. He’s willing to completely sacrifice the future of the GOP for his short-term gain, and it will be a pain in the ass to rebuild, given the loss of institutional knowledge. 

I think the unity the GQP/GOP currently has goes away. He's been able to unite the party as well as anybody could in this climate. It goes away when he does IMO.

At that point, the GOP will slide back toward their pre-Trump normalcy and the wackos will slowly fall off. Time will tell how much damage the alt-right, Christofascists can do before Dotard disappears.

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1 hour ago, miguelito said:

And what's your name, little boy?

All I want for Christmas is your gold-plated chair and hair.  And for my uncle to quit doing so much coke off that glass table right there.  I don't even care if you remember my name.  Hell, I don't even think Eric knows my name.  

These unfortunate children.  They'll have to grow up and realize what a complete and utter piece of shit grandma was and almost drowned the country.  Their only sin was being born into a family that never should have happened.  

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50 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

 These unfortunate children.  They'll have to grow up and realize what a complete and utter piece of shit grandma was and almost drowned the country.  Their only sin was being born into a family that never should have happened.  

i am guessing these are Eric's children, but Jared and Ivanka's children get to double dip; both their granddaddies are felons.

pretty common, eh?

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18 minutes ago, yoladu said:

i am guessing these are Eric's children, but Jared and Ivanka's children get to double dip; both their granddaddies are felons.

pretty common, eh?

Didn’t one grandpa pardon the other one too? Totally normal family stuff. 

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11 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

Is there a risk there’s someone fills that power vacuum who is even more dangerous to The Republic?  Someone who has the ability to galvanize the dumbasses like Trump?

I have a theory that a lot of Trump fans like him because he gets away with everything. The ‘shoot someone on fifth Avenue and get away with it’ thing.   I think what they like is best summed up in this meme.

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Part of the cults love is connected to Trump being a winner, and Trump flipping his middle finger at everyone his cult does not like.  “Owning the Libs” is really a thing.  I have a friend from Boy Scouts who tells me the thing he likes best about Trump is that liberals are driven crazy and get angry.  

Once Trump becomes a man who constantly loses, and the man who lets their liberal friends gloat and mock them for his failures, they may change religion and look to find a new person to channel their anger. 

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My other favorite argument is that the “legal grounds for this case are incredibly non-existent.” This is followed by “attorneys and judges from both parties agree.”

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30 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

My other favorite argument is that the “legal grounds for this case are incredibly non-existent.” This is followed by “attorneys and judges from both parties agree.”

“Even though the legal grounds have been used over 100 times by this DA to convict over 30 people, they don’t really exist.’

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22 hours ago, C-Man said:

I think the unity the GQP/GOP currently has goes away. He's been able to unite the party as well as anybody could in this climate. It goes away when he does IMO.

At that point, the GOP will slide back toward their pre-Trump normalcy and the wackos will slowly fall off. Time will tell how much damage the alt-right, Christofascists can do before Dotard disappears.

The Tea Party was a thing before Dotard ever threw his hat into the ring.  The dipshits will find someone else or some other dogma to rally their hatred around.

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1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The Tea Party was a thing before Dotard ever threw his hat into the ring.  The dipshits will find someone else or some other dogma to rally their hatred around.

That's unfortunately true, but the odds of them catching lightning in a bottle twice are pretty low.  

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On 5/30/2024 at 3:15 PM, TexasEd said:

He’ll gain more votes in some circles.


he’ll gain from posters here 

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11 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The Tea Party was a thing before Dotard ever threw his hat into the ring.  The dipshits will find someone else or some other dogma to rally their hatred around.

The Tea Party was a squirt of piss compared to this crazy MAGA movement. It dies when Trump does. There will be some carry-over but unless they find somebody as vile as Baron Von Schittsinpants, it will not have near the same traction or hold on America's racist moron class.

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12 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

I have a theory that a lot of Trump fans like him because he gets away with everything. The ‘shoot someone on fifth Avenue and get away with it’ thing.   I think what they like is best summed up in this meme.

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Part of the cults love is connected to Trump being a winner, and Trump flipping his middle finger at everyone his cult does not like.  “Owning the Libs” is really a thing.  I have a friend from Boy Scouts who tells me the thing he likes best about Trump is that liberals are driven crazy and get angry.  

Once Trump becomes a man who constantly loses, and the man who lets their liberal friends gloat and mock them for his failures, they may change religion and look to find a new person to channel their anger. 

He has lost a presidential election, 60 cases related to that loss, a sexual assault civil trial, and now a criminal trial. He’s been proven a loser for years now, they just hand wave it away as all rigged because he said so. 

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13 minutes ago, C-Man said:

The Tea Party was a squirt of piss compared to this crazy MAGA movement. It dies when Trump does. There will be some carry-over but unless they find somebody as vile as Baron Von Schittsinpants, it will not have near the same traction or hold on America's racist moron class.

No shit, right? Remember when this person was the dumbest, goofiest person in politics?

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She wouldn't be top 50 today.

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23 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

Serious question:

When this fucktard croaks his last Orange-Jabba breath, what happens to:

-the GOP (locally, state orgs, nationally)

-his sycophants who have attached themselves to him in DC

-the brainless, brainwashed cult-members in our families and communities 

 

Is there a risk there’s someone fills that power vacuum who is even more dangerous to The Republic?  Someone who has the ability to galvanize the dumbasses like Trump?

Which brings me to this.

Upon his death, the cult can transition into a religion to continue the idolatry. This could affect the various Christian denominations more than it affects the gqp. 

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Saw this quote in a USA Today article: 

“In a nation ruled by laws, not men, no one is above the rule of law,” said Jennifer Mercieca, a professor at Texas A&M University. “Not even a president.” 
 

Will be interesting to see if she loses her job.

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29 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The Tea Party was a thing before Dotard ever threw his hat into the ring.  The dipshits will find someone else or some other dogma to rally their hatred around.

27 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

That's unfortunately true, but the odds of them catching lightning in a bottle twice are pretty low.  

15 minutes ago, C-Man said:

The Tea Party was a squirt of piss compared to this crazy MAGA movement. It dies when Trump does. There will be some carry-over but unless they find somebody as vile as Baron Von Schittsinpants, it will not have near the same traction or hold on America's racist moron class.

The thing t about the Tea Party is that it was basically subverted and taken over by the GOP. Because it was ostensibly decentralized and because there were multiple groups claiming the mantle, GOP BMDs were able to spin up a well-funded Tea Party group that they controlled and that sucked a lot of oxygen out of the room. I don’t remember if it was the Dick Armey-led group or another one, but I had a cousin really into the whole concept and I remember when he realized it was going nowhere other than being pulled back into the fold.   

MAGA on the other hand, is controlled by one man right now.  

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1 hour ago, TexasHooch said:

No shit, right? Remember when this person was the dumbest, goofiest person in politics?

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She wouldn't be top 50 today.

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also found this… 

maybe nsfw: 

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