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Just now, OB3 said:

Completely avoided my question but ok. But since you wanna go a different route, do you want to look up what saban’s record was his first year at Alabama?

Yea man that analogy is dead. We’ve used that statement since we hired Charlie so please stahppppp. Saban went 7-6 his first year blah blah blah. Charlie then Herman and now sark. They aren’t saban.

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1 minute ago, OB3 said:

Completely avoided my question but ok. But since you wanna go a different route, do you want to look up what saban’s record was his first year at Alabama?

This entire conversation is hilarious. I've always considered rockethorn to be one of the dumbest posters on this site and yep confirmed. 

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1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Yea man that analogy is dead. We’ve used that statement since we hired Charlie so please stahppppp. Saban went 7-6 his first year blah blah blah. Charlie then Herman and now sark. They aren’t saban.

Never said they were? You said saban would never go 6-6 here. But his first year at bama before the bowl game, do you want to guess what his record was?

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2 minutes ago, OB3 said:

Never said they were? You said saban would never go 6-6 here. But his first year at bama before the bowl game, do you want to guess what his record was?

He's too stupid to realize the argument you're making. 

By his own logic, Saban sucks. 

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11 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

He's too stupid to realize the argument you're making. 

By his own logic, Saban sucks. 

I used that logic on Charlie and Herman. Not doing it again. But you guys can. Be my guest. My original post was in response to the babers quote that pk might improve this year becaise he faces more air raid. Which is so dumb. 

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1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I used that logic on Charlie and Herman. Not doing it again. But you guys can. Be my guest. My original post was in response to the babers quote that pk might improve this year becaise he faces more air raid. Which is so dumb. 

Hoping Charlie was a great coach because of a similarly bad year 1 as Saban was a prayer. It wasn't based on anything Charlie accomplished as a coach. It was stupid and there was no real basis for arguing somebody like Charlie would be good outside of limited success at Louisville. 

Arguing that PK has a history of success is based on facts.  I don't know why you're comparing these two things? 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Hoping Charlie was a great coach because of a similarly bad year 1 as Saban was a prayer. It wasn't based on anything Charlie accomplished as a coach. It was stupid and there was no real basis for arguing somebody like Charlie would be good outside of limited success at Louisville. 

Arguing that PK has a history of success is based on facts.  I don't know why you're comparing these two things? 

 

 

 

I didn’t bring up the saban comparison, mr high IQ did. Also based off your comparison then sark will never be good here.

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1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I didn’t bring up the saban comparison, mr high IQ did. Also based off your comparison then sark will never be good here.

You compared him to our coaches. I just used him for showing 1 year doesn’t fucking matter compared to his whole career. 

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Just now, Rockethorn1978 said:

I didn’t bring up the saban comparison, mr high IQ did. Also based off your comparison then sark will never be good here.

Well yeah, that's why a lot of people didn't like the Sark hire. He's had limited success as a coach. 

Thanks for your great insight. 

 

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11 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Well yeah, that's why a lot of people didn't like the Sark hire. He's had limited success as a coach. 

Thanks for your great insight. 

 

Yet you love his dc hire that was fucking atrocious at Texas. Makes sense. 
 

im amazed at how some of you can even type with your foam fingers on.

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Just now, Rockethorn1978 said:

Yet you love his dc hire that was fucking atrocious at Texas. Makes sense. 
 

im amazed at how some of you can even type with your foam fingers on.

One coach had past success as a defensive coordinator and the other didn't have past success as a head coach. You really think bad coaches can't make good coordinator hires? 

The fact that's difficult for you to comprehend is peak Rockethorn. 

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3 hours ago, ATXhorn17 said:

Took a look at TCU’s recent draft history at LB. All are taller than Tucker-Dorsey, but they’re comparable in weight—ranging from 210 lbs to 230 lbs. That’s encouraging to see IMO. 

Ty Summers (2020) 6’2, 230 lbs

Travin Howard (2019) 6’1, 210 lbs

Paul Dawson (2015) 6’2, 230 lbs

Tank Carter (2012) 6’2, 215 lbs

Jerry Hughes (2010) 6’2, 215 lbs

 

 

You forgot Wallow, who started as a safety before becoming an all conference LB, and drafted by the Texans. He was 6-2 220.

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20 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

One coach had past success as a defensive coordinator and the other didn't have past success as a head coach. You really think bad coaches can't make good coordinator hires? 

The fact that's difficult for you to comprehend is peak Rockethorn. 

Apparently not. See PK at Texas circa 2021.

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Lol “pac 12 doesn’t matter” after referencing a decade  of stats on a college football coach in a P5 conference is one of the dumbest recurring continuities on this site. The big 12 largely fucking sucks. PK was undoubtedly shit last year though. 

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2 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Yet he’s 0/1 here at Texas and that’s all that matters. So I’m jot the one looking like a fucking idiot or a foam finger fan drinking the off season kool aid. I’ll bookmark this when we’re 6-6 and the defense blows dick again.

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Interesting bit of trivia: The cartoon series JOT premiered on the local Dallas show Mr. Peppermint, a character played by Jerry Haynes, who was the father of Butthole Surfers lead singer Gibby Haynes.

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the reality is we'll never really know if PK is any good or not because it was so bad we had to bring in Gary Patterson to fix his shit.  I'm hopeful we will look decent which is a huge step up from ass.

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6 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

You really are a moron. 

Who the fuck cares where PK coached at? It's still part of his coaching resume as FEI adjust stats based on the offenses they play. Both PK and Patterson have years of success based on FEI with a couple bad years. 

You are truly stupid. 

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8 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Peak off season kool aids for you. I’m not the one slobbing pk knob about how great his resume was at Washington yet sucked shit through a straw here. Guess when we’re 6-6 this year and he still sucks you will change your tune. 

Muschamp was the DC for auburn in 2015. They gave up 20 points to Jacksonville state and damn near lost that game, Who in the fuck is Jacksonville state lol. They gave up 54 points to fucking Arkansas who lost to Toledo that year. In 2010 as our DC we gave up 34 to UCLA, 39 to Kansas state, 30 to Baylor, and 33 ok state. We went 5-7. Our defense got better without him the next year when he went to Florida lol. Muschamp isn’t a shitty DC and neither is PK, numb nuts. 

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9 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

Muschamp was the DC for auburn in 2015. They gave up 20 points to Jacksonville state and damn near lost that game, Who in the fuck is Jacksonville state lol. They gave up 54 points to fucking Arkansas who lost to Toledo that year. In 2010 as our DC we gave up 34 to UCLA, 39 to Kansas state, 30 to Baylor, and 33 ok state. We went 5-7. Our defense got better without him the next year when he went to Florida lol. Muschamp isn’t a shitty DC and neither is PK, numb nuts. 

Not gonna look up the box score of every game but the offense screwed over our defense in that game.  Lots of turnovers and short fields:

https://stats.texassports.com/custompages/sports/m-footbl/2010-2011/ut4.html
 

they had maybe two good drives

 

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52 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Not gonna look up the box score of every game but the offense screwed over our defense in that game.  Lots of turnovers and short fields:

https://stats.texassports.com/custompages/sports/m-footbl/2010-2011/ut4.html
 

they had maybe two good drives

 

313 yards rushing by UCLA lol. Take sacks away and they ended with 264 yards rushing. Yeah that’s a good day man. Damn offense. 

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21 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

313 yards rushing by UCLA lol. Take sacks away and they ended with 264 yards rushing. Yeah that’s a good day man. Damn offense. 

Uclas first three scoring drives:

 

2 plays 4 yards

7 plays 37 yards

4 plays 2 yards

 

yep uclas next drive was 8 for 80, but football should be a bit complimentary?

 

 

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PK has a very good track record. He certainly fucked up last year. That doesn’t negate a decade of coaching. Patterson had an even worse defense and that was with kids he recruited and coached for years with a staff he hand picked. Last year could be a bigger issue of the defensive staff not working well together or just an anomaly in PK’s long term track record. Anyone saying PK is beyond criticism is being ridiculous. Anyone saying last year means PK definitely sucks is ridiculous. 

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

PK has a very good track record. He certainly fucked up last year. That doesn’t negate a decade of coaching. Patterson had an even worse defense and that was with kids he recruited and coached for years with a staff he hand picked. Last year could be a bigger issue of the defensive staff not working well together or just an anomaly in PK’s long term track record. Anyone saying PK is beyond criticism is being ridiculous. Anyone saying last year means PK definitely sucks is ridiculous. 

That was my point. Muschamp had to deal with an inept offense and he had one foot out the door. We gave up 30 plus points to Baylor, ok state, and Kansas state with players who were NFL caliber and had played for a national championship the year before. The culture was significantly better for muschamp than what PK walked into. PK had a staff he didn’t hire with players who are mental midgets and pussies. Give him a minute to correct the issues he can control and I think it will be fine. We sucked, bad. I don’t think that will be the new norm. 

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5 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

That was my point. Muschamp had to deal with an inept offense and he had one foot out the door. We gave up 30 plus points to Baylor, ok state, and Kansas state with players who were NFL caliber and had played for a national championship the year before. The culture was significantly better for muschamp than what PK walked into. PK had a staff he didn’t hire with players who are mental midgets and pussies. Give him a minute to correct the issues he can control and I think it will be fine. We sucked, bad. I don’t think that will be the new norm. 

I got what you are saying. Every DC will have a down year with a long enough track record. I am basically agreeing. 1 year isn’t a long enough time to make an informed decision on PK. He had a new team and a new staff he didn’t pick last year. I am not sure what went wrong. Based on his prior track record and all the moving parts, I am willing to give him another year.  This is the same board that was fellating Orlando after one year, so it’s prone to rash decisions. 

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14 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I got what you are saying. Every DC will have a down year with a long enough track record. I am basically agreeing. 1 year isn’t a long enough time to make an informed decision on PK. He had a new team and a new staff he didn’t pick last year. I am not sure what went wrong. Based on his prior track record and all the moving parts, I am willing to give him another year.  This is the same board that was fellating Orlando after one year, so it’s prone to rash decisions. 

I partly agree but considering that PK made no personnel changes and didn't address the main weakness of the defense, I'm not holding out much hope.

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57 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Hold up. Is there a serious discussion going on here that attempts to favorably compare what Kwiatkowski did last season to Will Muschamp? Torbush. 

@WinningIsHard should change his handle to PostingIsHard. He’s like a bot built to be wrong on here constantly. 

Color me shocked, another post letting everybody know you think somebody is a “bad poster.” This is one of those that shit was definitely on my bingo card moments. Thanks man. 

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12 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

Color me shocked, another post letting everybody know you think somebody is a “bad poster.” This is one of those that shit was definitely on my bingo card moments. Thanks man. 

I’m happy to help, but I didn’t mean to imply that you’re a “bad poster.” What I was implying was that you’re too stupid to be considered a poster at all.

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14 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I partly agree but considering that PK made no personnel changes and didn't address the main weakness of the defense, I'm not holding out much hope.

He made changes. Scrapped his 2-4-5 look after a couple games. Collin, Ford, Murphy, and Barron played more as the season moved on. I would of preferred more time for both Barron and Ford. Lots of players logged time on the defense. That maybe the best thing he did for this year. The odds for a complete turn around are pretty low. I don’t think there is a difference maker currently on defense to push them dramatically forward. I do think the defense will improve. I think the improvement will be to a level of competence, not excellence. We shall see. 

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11 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I’m happy to help, but I didn’t mean to imply that you’re a “bad poster.” What I was implying was that you’re too stupid to be considered a poster at all.

Lol the you’re stupid post, gotta love the classics. You stooping down to let me know how much smarter you are than me is pretty sweet. I’m sure over the 20 years you’ve frequented these boards there have been plenty of these interactions. That’s not sad at all, your commitment to letting people know things is admirable. Somebody has to do it tho, right. 

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Just now, LTtxfan said:

Yeah pressuring the QB is a real concern for the 2022 Texas defense.

The issue is bigger than that. If your are designing a defense for a team, you start out identifying the strengths and weaknesses. Then you use the strengths to mask the weaknesses. You can cover up issues in the secondary with excellent front 7 play. You can cover up issue in the front 7 with excellent secondary play. What you can’t do is cover both up. That was the issue with the 2021 defense. They literally had a weakness at every level of the defense with  0 elite players

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15 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

He made changes. Scrapped his 2-4-5 look after a couple games. Collin, Ford, Murphy, and Barron played more as the season moved on. I would of preferred more time for both Barron and Ford. Lots of players logged time on the defense. That maybe the best thing he did for this year. The odds for a complete turn around are pretty low. I don’t think there is a difference maker currently on defense to push them dramatically forward. I do think the defense will improve. I think the improvement will be to a level of competence, not excellence. We shall see. 

Your optimistic take is noted.  The problem is that pessimism is what is warranted based on the last dozen years, along with last year with this particular staff.  Pessimism until the program proves us wrong. 

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3 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah pressuring the QB is a real concern for the 2022 Texas defense.

Yeah, Collins is an interior guy. Ovie, Finkley, Tapp, Dorbah, don't give me much hope. Sorrell should be alright.

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23 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

The issue is bigger than that. If your are designing a defense for a team, you start out identifying the strengths and weaknesses. Then you use the strengths to mask the weaknesses. You can cover up issues in the secondary with excellent front 7 play. You can cover up issue in the front 7 with excellent secondary play. What you can’t do is cover both up. That was the issue with the 2021 defense. They literally had a weakness at every level of the defense with  0 elite players

Agreed, my primary fear though is that I see no reason to believe any portion of our defense would be excellent next year no matter who our DC is unless there are massive cultural changes given I think everything besides maybe the interior DL will continue to be FUBARed

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11 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Good news. It’s no longer necessary to post. I’ve written an AI bot to automatically respond to any positive post  about the program with:

“You’re just a sunshine pumper worse than an aggie”

And any post that raises a question about the program with:

“go furiously masturbate with Satya.” 
 

 

We may need a new thread on Surly. May I suggest 

Show Me Where the Longhorn Touched You: Surly Screenshot Megathread

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13 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Good news. It’s no longer necessary to post. I’ve written an AI bot to automatically respond to any positive post  about the program with:

“You’re just a sunshine pumper worse than an aggie”

And any post that raises a question about the program with:

“go furiously masturbate with Satya.” 
 

 


Go masturbate with an Aggie.

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2 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

That was my point. Muschamp had to deal with an inept offense and he had one foot out the door. We gave up 30 plus points to Baylor, ok state, and Kansas state with players who were NFL caliber and had played for a national championship the year before. The culture was significantly better for muschamp than what PK walked into. PK had a staff he didn’t hire with players who are mental midgets and pussies. Give him a minute to correct the issues he can control and I think it will be fine. We sucked, bad. I don’t think that will be the new norm. 

It's telling that every defensive player that portaled out, dropped down in competition level.

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13 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

It's telling that every defensive player that portaled out, dropped down in competition level.

Cooks to TCU. Owens to Tech.

Honestly Adimora and that fucking spare Abiara aren't dropping far and Symons is a rising star as a DC. I don't know if the off-the-field stuff will be too much to overcome but Jordon Thomas can play at the p5 level as well. It's telling to me that the guys that did drop down were the guys this staff played. Foster who ended up at SHSU and Warren at Texas State. Guys like Cooks, Owens, Adimora didn't see the field. 

 

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