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14 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Lol @ blacklab closing the farmington thread on DT.

I think handcruser has compromising photos of him. 

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NSIAP. Chronicle editorial about how the Santa Fe (TX) school shooting has been ignored or forgotten. 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/santafe-uvalde-shooting-anniversary-guns-18108481.php

nonpaywall https://archive.is/jOzmN

2018 school shooting outside of Houston. 10 died. School district has done very little to acknowledge it. Unlike how the school was torn down in Uvalde, sounds like Santa Fe got a new paint job and wall tiles in the shooting/death rooms.  The article blames politics and the strong GOP local base.

What shocked me the most was that victims' families still haven't been allowed to learn details of their loved ones deaths. Texas passed a law this session to allow families access to autopsy records. I haven't heard whether Abbott will sign it. Can't have activist parents doing something to inform the public about these deaths.

 

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Unlike how the school was torn down in Uvalde.

Point of clarification, the school has been scheduled to be torn down and replaced, but a year later it still stands. 

 

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There is currently no scheduled date or budget for the demolition of the school, but the district and Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin have assured residents that plans are forthcoming.

Construction is set to begin on a new school adjacent to one of the community's existing elementary schools in August for students to attend as early as 2025. The district has set a fundraising goal of $50 million, which will be the sole source of funding for the school.

 

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29 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

i never go in there. cliff's notes?

Usual back and forth.  Blacklab wisely closed it because it's just another mass shooting with no news updates or lessons to be gleaned, just all shouting at one another.  The one pleasant surprise was Fondren&Main chimed in to question my mental health, mention my wife, and his firearms collections.  But called me the crazy one.  I mean yeah sure, that's true.  However, I consider it to be a line crossed to mention my marriage, well-being, and his guns in a couple of posts bookending one of mine.  I was gonna report it but in real life, I found out he's got some issues (as we all do) including treatment for low-T and erectile dysfunction so I let it slide.  Him and HandCruser, they can't tell the different between internet bullshit and true mental illness yet are called upon in real life to ascertain whether or not somebody should be able to purchase an AR-15 with real world (not neg rep points) consequences.  And they failed to see the irony.  

Anyway, back to mass shootings.  Not to make light of the tragedy, but if every Surly asshole were gonna chime in on an event:  The Klymax Lounge?"

https://www.kmbc.com/article/kc-police-identity-victims-shooting-klimax-lounge/43962191

Horrific tragedy.  Since several involved were under 25, we can talk about age restrictions, right?   

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An 18 year old and a $2K gun able to inflict property damage at more than $50 million... in addition to 19 kids and 2 teachers murdered, injuries, psychological trauma, and forever linking a sleepy town into a place forever linked to one of the worst tragedies the nation has seen.

 

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23 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

I should have been more clear. I meant a center R.  If you don’t have enough sense to drop the D in Texas, you don’t have enough sense to legislate.   Plenty of local stuff to get involved in, I suppose. 

“If you don’t have enough sense to declare yourself a member of the fascist party in Texas, you don’t have enough sense to legislate.”

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That's pretty weird.  I bet if you walked around with a ziploc bag full of tic-tacs in downtown Austin or near the Capitol.  And printed off a massive label that just said "Fentanyl" or "Opiates" and kinda held it up waist-high, you'd be tackled by LEO within 3 minutes.  Maybe even shot.  But you walk around with two AR-15's with live ammo and finger on trigger, you'll get "Way to go Patriot!" high-five.  

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56 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

An 18 year old and a $2K gun able to inflict property damage at more than $50 million... in addition to 19 kids and 2 teachers murdered, injuries, psychological trauma, and forever linking a sleepy town into a place forever linked to one of the worst tragedies the nation has seen.

 

Watched one of the “one year later” specials on Uvalde and was not surprised to learn the dominant culture citizens sided with the school district against the parents of the murdered children who wanted the superintendent fired. 

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Watched one of the “one year later” specials on Uvalde and was not surprised to learn the dominant culture citizens sided with the school district against the parents of the murdered children who wanted the superintendent fired. 
Well, they also sided with the governor that should have been fired.
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Today is the 1 year anniversary where 19 kids got a one way ticket to the afterlife and a few closed caskets funerals in Texas at Uvalde. So any changes were made? 

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8 minutes ago, Gengs1 said:

Today is the 1 year anniversary where 19 kids got a one way ticket to the afterlife and a few closed caskets funerals in Texas at Uvalde. So any changes were made? 

They're publishing traumatic childrens books to warn them about getting blasted inside a classroom

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https://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2023/05/winnie-pooh-run-hide-fight/

(h/t to atomheart for the link)

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On 5/22/2023 at 2:22 PM, Goofyboy said:

Texas sucks. 40 something in education, bottom in infant mortality, bottom in Medicaid/ Medicare, bottom in health care… run by white Christo-fascists. I mean, it’s great for a land owning white guy, but man, outside of that, this place sucks shit.

You forgot to mention that it's the energy capital of the world and can't keep the lights/heat/ac on for its citizens.  

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38 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

meanwhile we're banning books talking about sexuality.

unplug me.

Keeping human sexuality in the shadows gives child rapists more freedom. Making sexuality an openly discussed topic gives them less. Simple as that.

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On 5/22/2023 at 10:33 PM, Willfully Horn said:

There’s a lot of Eagle Scouts out there.

 

 

csb I once sat next to Kinky on a SW flight back when he was running for governor.  He was very nice.  Horrible dandruff though.

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2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

csb I once sat next to Kinky on a SW flight back when he was running for governor.  He was very nice.  Horrible dandruff though.

“A hairy, scary, legendary, screaming souvenir “

 

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27 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

One year, and if you go to the Lives Robbed Twitter feed, they've set the birthday to May 24, so Twitter animates some happy balloons.

https://twitter.com/livesrobbed

 I usually find myself emotionally detached from most news events. Or maybe it's better described as emotionally muted as I don't like attempts to sway me emotionally. The pictures of the children in the context of their at-home lives featured in the tweet has really hit me this morning. For example:

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Maybe it's because the school photos of child victims become generic to me. I see now that the photos in the grids published by the media are not all school photos, but the effect is the same. School is a generic setting. Settling for generic pictures may be another example of the laziness of most TV "news" outlets. The smiling faces, all the same size in their uniform rectangles, become like the neutral dots that form a pointilist painting of a bloody, monstrous event. I respond with outrage to the event, but the victims become just a roster.

Looking at a picture such as the above shows an individual girl and father in their version of a generic event. The people stand out. The girl now torn and in pieces by the devastating passage of high velocity bullets through her person in her elementary school classroom. See the father's arms from which she is forever removed. It gets to me. 

Compare it to this:

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I'm not looking for heightened sentimentality in the choices, just something more distinctive: something more individual.

This may stem from my recent feelings about referring to the enslaved American always as "slaves." I've wondered if doing so ingrains a notion of these individuals as part of a lesser class which has maybe fed subtle racism in whites and bred resentment in Blacks.

If I may carry on in tedium for a few more lines, I think I finally get the connection between genericizing and acceptance. This event would have mobilized action across the entire country 50 years ago. This is not because those alive 50 years ago were any better at being humans but because this would have been an astounding, shocking event then. Surely the word unthinkable would have been accurately batted about.

No more. 

 

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You should see the short videos that some parents have posted. Just seeing the kids actually talking, smiling... and then reading the absolute heartbreak those parents have gone through.

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Even if you're against more gun control and think hardened campuses and bullshit like doors are the answer know that Abbott and the rest of the jackoffs in this state haven't done a single fucking thing in the last 365 days to keep this from happening again and again.

 

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Some incredible (and infuriating) reading here:

https://www.expressnews.com/projects/uvalde/victim-obituaries/

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Xavier James Lopez was always dancing.

It ran in the family. His parents would break out their own moves, and Xavier — often called “XJ” — was quick to follow. He especially loved dancing cumbia. His mother often posted videos of her boy on her TikTok account.

Dancing “was his DNA,” she told CBS News. “That was his blood.”


Xavier was born on March 12, 2012, to Felicha Martinez and Abel Lopez. He died May 24, 2022, at Medina Regional Hospital.

The 10-year-old boy was extroverted and funny, with a smile that would cheer anyone up, his mother said.

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He then posed for a picture with Annabell Guadalupe Rodriguez, his childhood friend and longtime crush, who had recently become his girlfriend. 

Annabell had come home on the first day of fourth grade talking about a boy who smelled nice and dressed really well, her mother told ABC News.

In pictures that his family has shared over the past year, Xavier is often sporting a stylish getup — button-down shirts, Adidas sneakers, his hair slicked perfectly to one side.

Xavier and Annabell would pass notes in class. Annabell wore a picture of Xavier around her neck — it was a gift from him, according to ABC.

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He’s now buried next to her. 

 

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45 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Even if you're against more gun control and think hardened campuses and bullshit like doors are the answer know that Abbott and the rest of the jackoffs in this state haven't done a single fucking thing in the last 365 days to keep this from happening again and again.

 

well they just need to stop being so unreasonable with their gun control policies, right @fattyflattie?

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4 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

That's the room that deserves to be visited by an AR-15 toting maniac, not that classroom in Robb elementary.

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6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

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I'd love it if Uvalde Activists snuck fireworks into the chamber gallery and set the all off to sound like a fusilade. 

I first thought AR-15s with blanks, but I prefer the absurdity of these idiots diving under their desks, pulling out their pistols, and wounding each other fighting off the sound of firecrackers.

(Not digging at your man, @safe sex, just thought the visual applied.)

 

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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Not an ounce of shame among them. Unreal.

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Not an ounce of shame among them. Unreal.
To be fair, its easy to pause in quiet reflection in a hardened facility crawling with LEO that's safe from mass murders unlike our schools
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Cops were afraid to confront one guy with a particular firearm. Make that particular firearm illegal to own. Yesterday.

Create penalties for possession of said gun that are so strict that folks either comply, and turn them in, or they spend a few years behind bars and forever forfeit their right to own any guns.

Sure, some sick bastards will use other guns to commit unspeakable acts. Guns a swarm of cops are willing to face. Else, repeat.

OTOH, ban firearm capacity above six rounds. Same consequence strategy. 

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51 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Cops were afraid to confront one guy with a particular firearm. Make that particular firearm illegal to own. Yesterday.

Create penalties for possession of said gun that are so strict that folks either comply, and turn them in, or they spend a few years behind bars and forever forfeit their right to own any guns.

Sure, some sick bastards will use other guns to commit unspeakable acts. Guns a swarm of cops are willing to face. Else, repeat.

OTOH, ban firearm capacity above six rounds. Same consequence strategy. 

Nvm. 

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An image from last night's Austin FC match.
Giving a fuck about this and actually wanting to implement gun law reforms is favored by the vast majority of Texans and Americans, yet the response from our GQP leadership is a hearty "yeah, FUCK YOU!" and laughter.
 
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The minority lording its power over the majority, showing utter contempt and snide disdain for the majority, works well....right up until it doesn't.  The end-game for gun owners is not a good one.  As a gun owner, I wish our leadership wasn't dead-set on careening down this path, which is the worst of both worlds: death and suffering in the short term, and loss of the ability to own many/most/all private firearms in the long term.

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18 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

An image from last night's Austin FC match.
Giving a fuck about this and actually wanting to implement gun law reforms is favored by the vast majority of Texans and Americans, yet the response from our GQP leadership is a hearty "yeah, FUCK YOU!" and laughter.
 
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The minority lording its power over the majority, showing utter contempt and snide disdain for the majority, works well....right up until it doesn't.  The end-game for gun owners is not a good one.  As a gun owner, I wish our leadership wasn't dead-set on careening down this path, which is the worst of both worlds: death and suffering in the short term, and loss of the ability to own many/most/all private firearms in the long term.

I may just not be jaded yet -- or maybe in the wrong bubble -- but I think the tone is heading (very fucking slowly) in the right direction. The only issue is that hundreds more are going to die from these things before serious action is taken. For instance, "Damn right I'll take your AR-15" was considered a flub for Beto. Now we have the president actively calling for assault weapon bans. States like Michigan and Washington have enacted much tougher gun laws. And no matter how much bullshit is thrown out, people see what's happening with these shootings and know that if you don't do something about the guns, nothing changes. 

If they were to "cool off" and only happen occasionally, then I wouldn't think anything would change. People would get used to it. But the shootings are doing nothing but increase. Eventually there will be two of the random public shootings on the same day... major donors/corporations are going to speak out... or a large/influential enough group of Republicans will see the writing on the wall. Something is going to break through.

When that day will happen? No idea. Could be years. But there is arguably no other issue that's as clearly defined as right and wrong as this one. 

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One thing I find interesting is the estimation that some 20M-25M Americans own a variant of the AR-15.  That's not a very large demographic.  The problem is that Republicans in general are more interested in any stance that opposes that of Democrats, so they go along with the idea of minimizing any regulation on that particular weapon, even though most don't actually own one.

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1 hour ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I may just not be jaded yet -- or maybe in the wrong bubble -- but I think the tone is heading (very fucking slowly) in the right direction. The only issue is that hundreds more are going to die from these things before serious action is taken. For instance, "Damn right I'll take your AR-15" was considered a flub for Beto. Now we have the president actively calling for assault weapon bans. States like Michigan and Washington have enacted much tougher gun laws. And no matter how much bullshit is thrown out, people see what's happening with these shootings and know that if you don't do something about the guns, nothing changes. 

If they were to "cool off" and only happen occasionally, then I wouldn't think anything would change. People would get used to it. But the shootings are doing nothing but increase. Eventually there will be two of the random public shootings on the same day... major donors/corporations are going to speak out... or a large/influential enough group of Republicans will see the writing on the wall. Something is going to break through.

When that day will happen? No idea. Could be years. But there is arguably no other issue that's as clearly defined as right and wrong as this one. 

Its all moot unless and until you pack SCOTUS.

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I'm sure my idea wouldn't be very popular, but:

1. Make illegal (will never happen) to sell new semi-automatic firearms other than for legitimate military and police purposes.

2. Offer a buyback program that is actually worth it - say 4x value at a date at some point before the law is proposed. I would certainly sell my $400 pistol for $1,600.

No "coming after your guns" other than what is already in place. A good number of people will take advantage of the buy back and the remaining will be much more careful about locking up their suddenly much more valuable firearms. 

Short-term you won't notice much of a difference in gun deaths, but over the long-term (40-50 years), you will see a decrease in such deaths. 

I'm sure there a lot of holes in this idea (other than it will never happen), but I think it would work.

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1 hour ago, Anwar Namtut said:

I'm sure my idea wouldn't be very popular, but:

1. Make illegal (will never happen) to sell new semi-automatic firearms other than for legitimate military and police purposes.

2. Offer a buyback program that is actually worth it - say 4x value at a date at some point before the law is proposed. I would certainly sell my $400 pistol for $1,600.

No "coming after your guns" other than what is already in place. A good number of people will take advantage of the buy back and the remaining will be much more careful about locking up their suddenly much more valuable firearms. 

Short-term you won't notice much of a difference in gun deaths, but over the long-term (40-50 years), you will see a decrease in such deaths. 

I'm sure there a lot of holes in this idea (other than it will never happen), but I think it would work.

better than doing absolutely nothing. I know plenty of people who would gladly sell or even give up their AR if compelled. It's not that important to them. It's a toy and a clearly dangerous one. I'd be willing to bet many who are starting to have kids among them willingly part with those items anyway. they're about to learn how expensive a baby really is. I have to think a good portion of the people who own those weapons would sell them back, especially for a way over market value. and interesting take on the now inflated value for those that decide to keep theirs. it's the clingers you gotta worry about. and they would be fewer and more prominent - therefore easier to catch before and event - under a program like that. Add in mandatory registration of said weapons after the buyback period and we might start getting somewhere.

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Out law the sale of ammo without a license. Guns are legal. 2nd amendment says the right to bear arms… doesn’t say shit about ammo.

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4 hours ago, Anwar Namtut said:

Short-term you won't notice much of a difference in gun deaths, but over the long-term (40-50 years), you will see a decrease in such deaths. 

The "assault rifle ban" generated a modest decrease in gun deaths.  That was without any buyback.  Re-enact the ban, implement an incentive-laced buyback as you suggested, and there would be a noticeable effect.

The problem is, those who are having their pockets lined by the NRA couldn't give two shits about innocent people dying.  Therefore, it ain't happening, because money and power and fuck the libtards.

 

 

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