the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[DigglerontheHoof 20963]

Why can't that chucklefuck keep his jacket on?  What's he trying to portray? 

[henrygandorf 29169]

got a late start today and just turned on cnn.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19025]

Just now, cactusflinthead said:

 

Think they would vote a second time around for him?  Santos is done, so don't count him.  Bacon voted for KM.

[Js1 84995]

1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

Is that enough votes there to flip the house next year?

They need like 5 or 6 to flip. It’s not that hard if you look at it. 

[The Dog 43715]

Just now, kevwun said:

I am sure there are quite a few yes votes who only voted that way because they knew Jordan wasn't going to win.  That would be something McCaul would do for certain.

Yup and that's why the "no" votes were only going to increase after the first ballot. 

Something to keep in mind is that the Freedom Caucus had a specific list of demands of McCarthy - there was actually room to negotiate. The problem of course is that even though McCarthy agreed to them AND FOLLOWED THROUGH they voted him out anyway. 

[C-Man 26930]

Rep Ken Buck (R-Colo) is on CNN with Dana Bash. He voted for Tom Ember.

Dana Bash: "My first question, I guess, is do you want Tom Ember to be Speaker?"

Ken Buck: "No, I don't. I figured this would be the worst job in America. Mike Rowe would not want to do this for his TV show. This is a terrible job."

DB: "Just to underscore that. You voted FOR somebody because you don't like them?"

KB: "I voted for somebody because I wasn't going to vote for Jim Jordan."

DB: "But it's not because you want him to be Speaker. That says a lot about where we are right now."

 

[cactusflinthead 27588]

2 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Think they would vote a second time around for him?  Santos is done, so don't count him.  Bacon voted for KM.

Make them vote and we'll see. Just once is enough to run with it in an oppo ad.

[Captain Ron 12770]

8 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

If anyone knows how to twist body parts, it's Gym Jordan.

So is he going to ask for help and be ignored now?

[Js1 84995]

Just now, C-Man said:

DB: "But it's not because you want him to be Speaker. That says a lot about where we are right now."

It epitomizes the GOP. They rarely for something. They’re always against something 

[cactusflinthead 27588]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

It epitomizes the GOP. They rarely for something. They’re always against something 

And it's something that the Democrats need to work with. We don't vote for anything or anyone. We vote against the other sorry sumbitch

[The Dog 43715]

 

[cactusflinthead 27588]

 

[Neonmoon 38127]

Please tell me this is real

[The Dog 43715]

 

[cactusflinthead 27588]

 

Edited October 17, 2023 by cactusflinthead

[Biff Tannen 45439]

5 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

If they could give McWhatshisface emergency powers for the wars and budget and whatnot, this is my preferred scenario.  And then Gaetz immediately calls to oust him again.

[cactusflinthead 27588]

Womack sounds firm

 

[Paul Wesley 3275]

21 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They need like 5 or 6 to flip. It’s not that hard if you look at it. 

I think it's more than twice that number, right?

And there are almost certainly a few "Jordan" voters who are now going to switch their votes away from Jordan, because now they can tell their MAGA voters, "Gosh, I really tried."

It could still happen, but I think the consensus is that it's way worse for Jordan than we thought.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If they could give McWhatshisface emergency powers for the wars and budget and whatnot, this is my preferred scenario.  And then Gaetz immediately calls to oust him again.

If he's a Pro Tem with just select emergency powers, can he be ousted? Or is he immune to a vote? This is like a re-has of the Trump plan to just have Interims lead things and departments since they can pick who they want that wouldn't pass confirmation hearings. 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

1 minute ago, cactusflinthead said:

Womack sounds firm

 

Yet Scalise voted for Jordan, I think. At what point does the pressure force those guys to say "I appreciate the loyalty, but we need to come together." Unless of course they all still hate them half as much as we keep hearing, so...

[DDD Dad 14144]

44 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

212 for HJ.

They're going to have to wait their turn after Santos.

[YGIFS 19447]

Just now, DDD Dad said:

They're going to have to wait their turn after Santos.

In the meantime, here's a couple of giant stress-balloons you can rub while you wait.

[Covri 6225]

 

[Js1 84995]

 

[Biff Tannen 45439]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

If he's a Pro Tem with just select emergency powers, can he be ousted? Or is he immune to a vote? This is like a re-has of the Trump plan to just have Interims lead things and departments since they can pick who they want that wouldn't pass confirmation hearings. 

Sorry, I meant oust McCarthy after he's reinstated for the second time.

[Aqua Buddha 14464]

7 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Womack sounds firm

 

I've read some references to how Jordan acted during the process.  (Worse than usual for him, evidently.)

Does anyone know the details?

[SydneyCarton 47809]

Just now, Aqua Buddha said:

I've read some references to how Jordan acted during the process.  (Worse than usual for him, evidently.)

Does anyone know the details?

[tokamak 6346]

1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I've read some references to how Jordan acted during the process.  (Worse than usual for him, evidently.)

Does anyone know the details?

I'm guessing he knew about some really terrible stuff going on but turned a blind eye to it anyway

[texasdago 7544]

2 minutes ago, tokamak said:

I'm guessing he knew about some really terrible stuff going on but turned a blind eye to it anyway

Or he knew about some really terrible stuff and made some people fully aware that he knew about it to get their votes.  Didn't someone say it here?  Dead girls or live boys?

[ConferenceRoom 6123]

23 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

[TexasHooch 5115]

McCarthy defends Jordan after he loses on first round of votes for speaker

From CNN's Manu Raju and Kristin Wilson

Former Speaker of the House Rep. Kevin McCarthy speaks to reporters as he leaves the House chamber after Republicans failed in their first attempt to elect Rep. Jim Jordan to be the new House speaker, at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

Former Speaker of the House Rep. Kevin McCarthy speaks to reporters as he leaves the House chamber after Republicans failed in their first attempt to elect Rep. Jim Jordan to be the new House speaker, at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy defended Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan after Jordan lost the first round of votes for the speakership, saying Jordan “has just as many votes as I had on the first round.”

“The difference here is we have rules and we can sit down and talk to the other members and be able to move forward,” he said, brushing away claims by Jordan allies that he was in striking distance when 20 Republicans voted against him. “What I saw was the exact same vote I got when I ran and I became speaker.”

McCarthy said that unlike in January, the chamber can pause to allow discussions to happen between members. 

“Now we have rules. We don’t have to be stuck on the floor,” he said, and blamed “every single Democrat” who he said “voted to stop one branch of government.”

“We’ll go sit down, we’ll talk to those who have a difference of opinion and come back,” he said.

 

[South Austin 51976]

10 minutes ago, Covri said:

 

[kevwun 15572]

Yep, it's definitely their fault for me agreeing to stupid rules that magats exploited.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

2 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

McCarthy defends Jordan after he loses on first round of votes for speaker

From CNN's Manu Raju and Kristin Wilson

Former Speaker of the House Rep. Kevin McCarthy speaks to reporters as he leaves the House chamber after Republicans failed in their first attempt to elect Rep. Jim Jordan to be the new House speaker, at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

Former Speaker of the House Rep. Kevin McCarthy speaks to reporters as he leaves the House chamber after Republicans failed in their first attempt to elect Rep. Jim Jordan to be the new House speaker, at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy defended Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan after Jordan lost the first round of votes for the speakership, saying Jordan “has just as many votes as I had on the first round.”

“The difference here is we have rules and we can sit down and talk to the other members and be able to move forward,” he said, brushing away claims by Jordan allies that he was in striking distance when 20 Republicans voted against him. “What I saw was the exact same vote I got when I ran and I became speaker.”

McCarthy said that unlike in January, the chamber can pause to allow discussions to happen between members. 

“Now we have rules. We don’t have to be stuck on the floor,” he said, and blamed “every single Democrat” who he said “voted to stop one branch of government.”

“We’ll go sit down, we’ll talk to those who have a difference of opinion and come back,” he said.

 

That's why, among many reasons, that piece of shit can get fucked and stay fucked for eternity. If for some reason I ever saw him, I would unquesitonably spit in his fucking face. It woudln't have been difficult for him to simply say with a wry smile "I've been there, but I got through it and we had about the same votes." No, blames democrats. Keeps pouring gas, nevermind the fact that behavior is why they voted to vacate you, you fucking freedom hating fascist. 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11771]

5 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Or he knew about some really terrible stuff and made some people fully aware that he knew about it to get their votes.  Didn't someone say it here?  Dead girls or live boys?

When I think of Gym Jordan trying and failing to become speaker, the term "rhythmic bitch-slapping sounds" comes to mind.  

[Js1 84995]

28 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I've read some references to how Jordan acted during the process.  (Worse than usual for him, evidently.)

Does anyone know the details?

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/10/12/congress/wagners-memory-00121375

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"Yesterday in conference, he gave the most disgraceful, ungracious — I can’t call it a concession speech — of all time," the Scalise ally added. "There were gasps in the room.”

Then Wagner recalled another moment that lost Jordan her support. It took place during a private meeting between Scalise and Jordan, less than an hour after the majority leader won the House GOP's internal speaker ballot. Wagner wasn't in the room, but she remained outside in Scalise's office and took in the immediate aftermath.

According to Wagner and other House Republicans briefed on the meeting, Jordan said to Scalise: “You get one ballot. And when you go down, you will nominate me.”

She said Scalise pushed back, arguing he had won by the conference rules, to which Jordan replied: “America wants me,” before storming out the door.

 

[dieucla98 2922]

57 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

If his mob organization skills are akin to his getting-votes-from-the-same-broke-party-he's-apart-of skills, then I think we're going to be ok.

[Willfully Horn 7911]

“… to die in a fire.” Fucker can’t even finish a thought. 

[Bullneck 18959]

[Bullneck 18959]

34 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Or he knew about some really terrible stuff and made some people fully aware that he knew about it to get their votes.  Didn't someone say it here?  Dead girls or live boys?

Huey Lewis said that.

[YGIFS 19447]

3 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

20 House members voted for Sally Struthers? 

Oh, "S-others"   Got it.  

Well it's like her and Gym Jordan once said, "Won't somebody think of the children?!?!?!?!" 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

13 minutes ago, Js1 said:

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/10/12/congress/wagners-memory-00121375

 

If true, that's not just some "Jim Jordan is a piece of shit" behavior. Or even "Jim Jordan is an uncaring fascist" behavior. That's some straight up psychopath behavior. 

 

Edited October 17, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[cactusflinthead 27588]

DK elections fixed tweet

 

[The Dog 43715]

 

[Satchel 6908]

43 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

McCarthy defends Jordan after he loses on first round of votes for speaker

From CNN's Manu Raju and Kristin Wilson

Former Speaker of the House Rep. Kevin McCarthy speaks to reporters as he leaves the House chamber after Republicans failed in their first attempt to elect Rep. Jim Jordan to be the new House speaker, at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

Former Speaker of the House Rep. Kevin McCarthy speaks to reporters as he leaves the House chamber after Republicans failed in their first attempt to elect Rep. Jim Jordan to be the new House speaker, at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy defended Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan after Jordan lost the first round of votes for the speakership, saying Jordan “has just as many votes as I had on the first round.”

“The difference here is we have rules and we can sit down and talk to the other members and be able to move forward,” he said, brushing away claims by Jordan allies that he was in striking distance when 20 Republicans voted against him. “What I saw was the exact same vote I got when I ran and I became speaker.”

McCarthy said that unlike in January, the chamber can pause to allow discussions to happen between members. 

“Now we have rules. We don’t have to be stuck on the floor,” he said, and blamed “every single Democrat” who he said “voted to stop one branch of government.”

“We’ll go sit down, we’ll talk to those who have a difference of opinion and come back,” he said.

 

He’s still blaming the Dems for his being dumped. His anger is misplaced. 
 

Fwiw, Kay Granger voted against Gym in Round 1. Shocker 

[The Dog 43715]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52232]

25 minutes ago, Js1 said:

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/10/12/congress/wagners-memory-00121375

 

America wants body autonomy for women. guess what, Jim. Nobody n the hill gives a shit what america wants. We are lucky if they give a shit what their district or state wants. 
 

Edited October 17, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[Dbeasy 14931]

It is a real statement about the GOP that such a piece of shit as Jordan got as many votes as he did. It truly is disgraceful 

Edited October 17, 2023 by Dbeasy

[cactusflinthead 27588]

4 minutes ago, Satchel said:

He’s still blaming the Dems for his being dumped. His anger is misplaced. 
 

Fwiw, Kay Granger voted against Gym in Round 1. Shocker 

I wonder if some of those 20 were really put off by how Gym acted to Scalise. Kay is about as safe as you can get. 

[cactusflinthead 27588]

Open up Twitter

First rattle out of the box

Just one more

 

Edited October 17, 2023 by cactusflinthead